Travelling internationally under Trump autocracy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly what you're talking about, but I think people should know.

The international community of DC is worried. We are World Bank, IMF, NIH, various foreigners with diplomatic or other types of work visas. I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

This was a retaliatory action on the part of the Trump administration because the country in question displeased him last week by trying to push back on return flights of illegal immigrants. The World Bank employees had nothing to do with the push back but were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are trying to get back to their families.

We are all deeply concerned, after having worked for years in this country, hand in hand with the US government and welcomed by previous administrations, that our roots laid here by our families will be all for naught. We have kids in local schools, own local property, have made our lives here. Word is circulating that no one should leave US soil, for fear of not being allowed back, but work trips have to continue.

Welp, you could always go back home ya know. If it gets too uncomfortable and all. Just saying. You can vote with your feet. Some people are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should the government be responsible for getting you out of a jam overseas? Get medevac insurance, don't go to problematic destinations, and don't break any local laws. If you do those things, the chances that you'll need rescue by Big Brother (without regard to who is President) should be extremely slight.

Because if were anything other than a dumb MAGA voter, you'd know that Embassies exist to help their citizens abroad. When you lose you passport in Paris, that's who you contact, the US Embassy in Paris. I worked with the Embassy in Pakistan to help retrieve my relative, who was working with an NGO and who had been kidnapped. She got out safely. All they wanted were her electronic devices, apparently. The driver did not fare so well.

Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. They are there to represent the interests of the United States. They do not exist to babysit US travellers. You want proof? Get in trouble. They'll send you a list of lawyers. That's it.

They do both. Of course you should never plan on needing their services! But when the unexpected occurs… they can help.

LOL….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly what you're talking about, but I think people should know.

The international community of DC is worried. We are World Bank, IMF, NIH, various foreigners with diplomatic or other types of work visas. I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

This was a retaliatory action on the part of the Trump administration because the country in question displeased him last week by trying to push back on return flights of illegal immigrants. The World Bank employees had nothing to do with the push back but were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are trying to get back to their families.

We are all deeply concerned, after having worked for years in this country, hand in hand with the US government and welcomed by previous administrations, that our roots laid here by our families will be all for naught. We have kids in local schools, own local property, have made our lives here. Word is circulating that no one should leave US soil, for fear of not being allowed back, but work trips have to continue.

Welp, you could always go back home ya know. If it gets too uncomfortable and all. Just saying. You can vote with your feet. Some people are.

You could be trying to be a kind and polite person. Some people are.

[Anonymous]

I am not traveling to any place where I would not trust their government to care for me in the event of a medical emergency. TBH the places I am considering going, I trust their government MUCH more than our own government right now. When I travel, I will bring copies of all of our important documents with us to be safe and have a plan in place in the event we cannot return or it is not safe.

I have been hesitant to travel to places where I wouldn't trust their government or medical care in an emergency with children and that still remains true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly what you're talking about, but I think people should know.

The international community of DC is worried. We are World Bank, IMF, NIH, various foreigners with diplomatic or other types of work visas. I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

This was a retaliatory action on the part of the Trump administration because the country in question displeased him last week by trying to push back on return flights of illegal immigrants. The World Bank employees had nothing to do with the push back but were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are trying to get back to their families.

We are all deeply concerned, after having worked for years in this country, hand in hand with the US government and welcomed by previous administrations, that our roots laid here by our families will be all for naught. We have kids in local schools, own local property, have made our lives here. Word is circulating that no one should leave US soil, for fear of not being allowed back, but work trips have to continue.

All due respect, this is the bed you made.
If you are on a business/work/diplomatic visa, it carries an inherent risk. This is how it works in most countries.

[Anonymous]

Let me get this straight-- there were G4 holders from World Bank denied reentry to the US and the World Bank hasn't put anything out to their visa holders to warn them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

World Bank people get G-4 visas. Diplomatic visas are A-1 or A-2. How did a World Bank employee have an A-1 visa instead of a G-4? Was it a politcal position?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should the government be responsible for getting you out of a jam overseas? Get medevac insurance, don't go to problematic destinations, and don't break any local laws. If you do those things, the chances that you'll need rescue by Big Brother (without regard to who is President) should be extremely slight.

Great, does that mean we can finally exempt US citizens living and earning abroad from paying US taxes? The rationale was you benefit from being a US citizen no matter where you live. Very few countries tax the income of their citizens who live abroad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should the government be responsible for getting you out of a jam overseas? Get medevac insurance, don't go to problematic destinations, and don't break any local laws. If you do those things, the chances that you'll need rescue by Big Brother (without regard to who is President) should be extremely slight.

Problematic? You can't forecast earthquakes and tsunamis.

[Anonymous]

No. Doubt funds will be expended or that there will actually be staff there to help you.

[Anonymous]

I see that Trump permanent syndrome is alive and well. Grow up and get a more productive hobby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

World Bank people get G-4 visas. Diplomatic visas are A-1 or A-2. How did a World Bank employee have an A-1 visa instead of a G-4? Was it a politcal position?

They were on G4 visas and returning home from regular work trips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight-- there were G4 holders from World Bank denied reentry to the US and the World Bank hasn't put anything out to their visa holders to warn them?

Of course they’ve warned all G4 visa holders. But you have to travel to do most of those jobs. You can’t simply choose never to travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

World Bank people get G-4 visas. Diplomatic visas are A-1 or A-2. How did a World Bank employee have an A-1 visa instead of a G-4? Was it a politcal position?

They were on G4 visas and returning home from regular work trips.

This isn't being reported anywhere. Which country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not exactly what you're talking about, but I think people should know.

The international community of DC is worried. We are World Bank, IMF, NIH, various foreigners with diplomatic or other types of work visas. I heard of two World Bank employees who had their diplomatic visas RESCINDED and were barred from returning to the US at the end of their trip abroad. One of them has kids at same public high school in MoCo my kids go to, which is how I know.

This was a retaliatory action on the part of the Trump administration because the country in question displeased him last week by trying to push back on return flights of illegal immigrants. The World Bank employees had nothing to do with the push back but were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are trying to get back to their families.

We are all deeply concerned, after having worked for years in this country, hand in hand with the US government and welcomed by previous administrations, that our roots laid here by our families will be all for naught. We have kids in local schools, own local property, have made our lives here. Word is circulating that no one should leave US soil, for fear of not being allowed back, but work trips have to continue.

All due respect, this is the bed you made.
If you are on a business/work/diplomatic visa, it carries an inherent risk. This is how it works in most countries.

An inherent risk of political retaliation? I’ve never heard of long term visas being cancelled in other modern democracies.