Do they still sell non HE washing machines?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a top load Samsung without an agitator and I use a speed queen at another house. They’re both fine. This isn’t that complicated. The speed queen uses more water and agitates more aggressively. I think most of our clothes don’t need that and I have to believe it contributes some to wear and tear. For major stains, it’s still mostly about pretreating and choosing the right chemical weapons.

No one said they were confused. We just known that HE machines do not work well. Too little water is what actually causes damage to increased friction. Same with machines w/o an agitator-the fabric just rubs together in a big ball in little water, instead of swishing properly in water around an agitator.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a top load Samsung without an agitator and I use a speed queen at another house. They’re both fine. This isn’t that complicated. The speed queen uses more water and agitates more aggressively. I think most of our clothes don’t need that and I have to believe it contributes some to wear and tear. For major stains, it’s still mostly about pretreating and choosing the right chemical weapons.

No one said they were confused. We just known that HE machines do not work well. Too little water is what actually causes damage to increased friction. Same with machines w/o an agitator-the fabric just rubs together in a big ball in little water, instead of swishing properly in water around an agitator.

I don’t find this to be true. You can set the Samsung to use more water. The main problem is that it doesn’t do a good job pulling things that float down into the water, compared to an agitator. But there are pluses, like you can more easily wash big bulky things by letting them span the middle. You’re not supposed to do that but it works fine and it gets blankets and stuff like that done effectively.

They’re both fine, people just like being mad at “newfangled” things.

[Anonymous]

We have a Speed Queen. It is HE and front loading, but it has been going strong for 16 years and we absolutely love it! If we ever moved, would get another Speed Queen for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never had a problem getting clean clothes with an HE. What are you guys doing wrong?

Go back to a top load center agitator non HE model and you will quickly realize the HE models don't get clothing clean. You are just smelling the detergent perfume and mistaking the overpowering masking scent for cleanliness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never had a problem getting clean clothes with an HE. What are you guys doing wrong?

Go back to a top load center agitator non HE model and you will quickly realize the HE models don't get clothing clean. You are just smelling the detergent perfume and mistaking the overpowering masking scent for cleanliness.

Nah. I have kids, dogs and horses. I can make an accurate assessment of what gets clean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never had a problem getting clean clothes with an HE. What are you guys doing wrong?

One single poster does not have problems with HE washer while the rest of the posters do. The arrogance of telling people the problems are theirs.

I have had multiple HE washers. No problems.

The arrogance. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never had a problem getting clean clothes with an HE. What are you guys doing wrong?

I also haven’t had issues and have had a front loader since 2000 (first was Maytag and now have LG).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never had a problem getting clean clothes with an HE. What are you guys doing wrong?

Go back to a top load center agitator non HE model and you will quickly realize the HE models don't get clothing clean. You are just smelling the detergent perfume and mistaking the overpowering masking scent for cleanliness.

I’m a PP who doesn’t have issues with their front loader. I also use unscented detergent so there is no “masking.”

[Anonymous]

I just bought the Speed Queen classic TC5 to replace a terrible Maytag commercial HE washer that actually used a ton more water because it was always sensing the wrong thing and would keep running the rinse and spin cycle. The sensor would always override whatever I selected.

I love it. It's a top loader with agitator and deep fill option. Just don't select the eco option and it's the classic old school washing machine. It's amazing and washes a load of clothes in 30 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just bought the Speed Queen classic TC5 to replace a terrible Maytag commercial HE washer that actually used a ton more water because it was always sensing the wrong thing and would keep running the rinse and spin cycle. The sensor would always override whatever I selected.

I love it. It's a top loader with agitator and deep fill option. Just don't select the eco option and it's the classic old school washing machine. It's amazing and washes a load of clothes in 30 minutes.

What's more, the "normal" cycle is the one to avoid on any washer sold these days. Efficiency testing is done on the normal cycle, so it uses the least water and the coolest water.