TJ SOL Pass Advanced Rates for math/science for 9th graders with Demographics

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There has been a significant decrease in SOL Pass Advanced Rates from before the admissions change to after the admissions change.


School Year Race Disadvantaged Test Pass Advanced Rate
2023-2024 Hispanic Y Biology 7.14
2022-2023 Black N Algebra II 9.09
2021-2022 Black Y Biology 17.65
2022-2023 Black Y Biology 21.43
2022-2023 White Y Biology 23.08
2021-2022 Hispanic Y Biology 24.14
2023-2024 Black N Biology 26.32
2021-2022 Black N Biology 28.57
2021-2022 Hispanic Y Algebra II 30
2021-2022 White Y Biology 30
2022-2023 Hispanic Y Biology 31.25
2023-2024 Black Y Biology 31.25
2021-2022 Asian Y Biology 33.33
2023-2024 Asian Y Biology 34.29
2022-2023 Black N Biology 35.71
2023-2024 White Y Biology 40
2023-2024 Hispanic N Biology 42.86
2023-2024 Asian N Biology 47.46
2021-2022 Asian N Algebra I 50
2021-2022 Asian Y Algebra II 50
2022-2023 Hispanic N Biology 50
2023-2024 White N Biology 50
2022-2023 Asian Y Algebra II 52.63
2021-2022 White N Algebra II 53.23
2023-2024 Asian N Geometry 53.33
2023-2024 Asian N Algebra II 53.69
2022-2023 Asian Y Biology 55
2021-2022 Hispanic N Biology 56.52
2023-2024 White N Algebra II 57.14
2022-2023 White N Algebra II 57.81
2021-2022 Hispanic N Algebra II 58.33
2021-2022 Asian N Algebra II 58.57
2021-2022 two/more N Biology 59.09
2023-2024 two/more N Biology 60.61
2022-2023 Asian N Algebra II 60.99
2023-2024 two/more N Algebra II 61.54
2022-2023 Asian N Biology 61.59
2021-2022 Asian N Biology 62.7
2017-2018 Asian Y Biology 63.64
2018-2019 Asian N Algebra I 63.64
2021-2022 White N Biology 65.66
2022-2023 White N Biology 66.33
2021-2022 two/more N Algebra II 66.67
2017-2018 White N Algebra I 70
2018-2019 Hispanic N Biology 70.59
2022-2023 two/more N Biology 72.73
2016-2017 Asian N Biology 77.96
2017-2018 Asian N Biology 79.34
2018-2019 Black N Biology 80
2017-2018 Asian N Algebra I 81.82
2017-2018 Asian N Geometry 81.82
2018-2019 Asian N Biology 84.08
2017-2018 two/more N Biology 84.21
2016-2017 White N Biology 84.62
2016-2017 two/more N Biology 86.36
2022-2023 two/more N Algebra II 88.24
2018-2019 two/more N Biology 89.29
2018-2019 two/more N Algebra II 89.47
2018-2019 White N Algebra II 93.1
2017-2018 Asian N Chemistry 93.75
2018-2019 Asian N Algebra II 94.63
2018-2019 White N Biology 95.05
2017-2018 White N Biology 96.05
2018-2019 Asian N Chemistry 96.97
2016-2017 Asian N Chemistry 100
2018-2019 White N Chemistry 100


You can definitely see the impact COVID had on these scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has been a significant decrease in SOL Pass Advanced Rates from before the admissions change to after the admissions change.


School Year Race Disadvantaged Test Pass Advanced Rate
2023-2024 Hispanic Y Biology 7.14
2022-2023 Black N Algebra II 9.09
2021-2022 Black Y Biology 17.65
2022-2023 Black Y Biology 21.43
2022-2023 White Y Biology 23.08
2021-2022 Hispanic Y Biology 24.14
2023-2024 Black N Biology 26.32
2021-2022 Black N Biology 28.57
2021-2022 Hispanic Y Algebra II 30
2021-2022 White Y Biology 30
2022-2023 Hispanic Y Biology 31.25
2023-2024 Black Y Biology 31.25
2021-2022 Asian Y Biology 33.33
2023-2024 Asian Y Biology 34.29
2022-2023 Black N Biology 35.71
2023-2024 White Y Biology 40
2023-2024 Hispanic N Biology 42.86
2023-2024 Asian N Biology 47.46
2021-2022 Asian N Algebra I 50
2021-2022 Asian Y Algebra II 50
2022-2023 Hispanic N Biology 50
2023-2024 White N Biology 50
2022-2023 Asian Y Algebra II 52.63
2021-2022 White N Algebra II 53.23
2023-2024 Asian N Geometry 53.33
2023-2024 Asian N Algebra II 53.69
2022-2023 Asian Y Biology 55
2021-2022 Hispanic N Biology 56.52
2023-2024 White N Algebra II 57.14
2022-2023 White N Algebra II 57.81
2021-2022 Hispanic N Algebra II 58.33
2021-2022 Asian N Algebra II 58.57
2021-2022 two/more N Biology 59.09
2023-2024 two/more N Biology 60.61
2022-2023 Asian N Algebra II 60.99
2023-2024 two/more N Algebra II 61.54
2022-2023 Asian N Biology 61.59
2021-2022 Asian N Biology 62.7
2017-2018 Asian Y Biology 63.64
2018-2019 Asian N Algebra I 63.64
2021-2022 White N Biology 65.66
2022-2023 White N Biology 66.33
2021-2022 two/more N Algebra II 66.67
2017-2018 White N Algebra I 70
2018-2019 Hispanic N Biology 70.59
2022-2023 two/more N Biology 72.73
2016-2017 Asian N Biology 77.96
2017-2018 Asian N Biology 79.34
2018-2019 Black N Biology 80
2017-2018 Asian N Algebra I 81.82
2017-2018 Asian N Geometry 81.82
2018-2019 Asian N Biology 84.08
2017-2018 two/more N Biology 84.21
2016-2017 White N Biology 84.62
2016-2017 two/more N Biology 86.36
2022-2023 two/more N Algebra II 88.24
2018-2019 two/more N Biology 89.29
2018-2019 two/more N Algebra II 89.47
2018-2019 White N Algebra II 93.1
2017-2018 Asian N Chemistry 93.75
2018-2019 Asian N Algebra II 94.63
2018-2019 White N Biology 95.05
2017-2018 White N Biology 96.05
2018-2019 Asian N Chemistry 96.97
2016-2017 Asian N Chemistry 100
2018-2019 White N Chemistry 100


You can definitely see the impact COVID had on these scores.


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If you look at the rates for other local high schools, you can see a similar impact there too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP posted this as an indictment of the new admissions process. But objectively, going from 80-100% Advanced Pass rates to 20-50% (the formatting is so strange, this might be a bit off) shows something else.

Have the SOLs changed between 2018 and 2022? I'm aware of rescoring of the reading SOL somewhat recently and the math SOL rescoring before that but I'm not sure exactly when that happened.

This also shows the impact of the pandemic, learning loss even, or especially, at the highest level of student, whether the stress of isolation, the loss of school and academic progress, or injury from covid (since nearly 100% of Americans have had covid at least once, if not several times).

Math SOLs changed in 2018-19. English SOLs changed in 2020-21. For both math and English, cut scores were reduced so scores were boosted when those SOLs took effect. Science changed in 2022-23.


PP here. I'm not sure how the rescoring would affect Pass Advanced rates but it sounds like that's not a part of the explanation. On DCUM, we are sure that our high quality students had no learning loss and/or are fully recovered from learning loss and that covid had/has no effect on anything. So maybe the explanation is purely the result of the new admissions process. I lived in Texas around the time of the enactment of the 10% rule and saw the effect on the university system and students there. It was mixed, with positives and negatives.


We don't think we are immune from learning loss but it's 2025 and we are talking about kids at the far right end side of the curve (or we should be).

COVID affected learning levels for younger kids less than older kids, i.e. the effect is more pronounced at the high school level than at the 5th grade level (the current freshmen at TJ).
COVID affected learning for highly engaged (smarter?) kids less than low engagement kids. So you would expect to see less learning loss at the right end of the curve.
COVID affects higher income kids less than lower income kids as parents have more resources to bridge the gap.

And there are positive and negative aspects of the new admissions policy at TJ as well.

On the positive side, there is more diversity (economic, geographic and racial) and less stress from academic competition
On the negative side, there is a less competitive academic environment and a lot of mismatched students
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has been a significant decrease in SOL Pass Advanced Rates from before the admissions change to after the admissions change.


School Year Race Disadvantaged Test Pass Advanced Rate
2023-2024 Hispanic Y Biology 7.14
2022-2023 Black N Algebra II 9.09
2021-2022 Black Y Biology 17.65
2022-2023 Black Y Biology 21.43
2022-2023 White Y Biology 23.08
2021-2022 Hispanic Y Biology 24.14
2023-2024 Black N Biology 26.32
2021-2022 Black N Biology 28.57
2021-2022 Hispanic Y Algebra II 30
2021-2022 White Y Biology 30
2022-2023 Hispanic Y Biology 31.25
2023-2024 Black Y Biology 31.25
2021-2022 Asian Y Biology 33.33
2023-2024 Asian Y Biology 34.29
2022-2023 Black N Biology 35.71
2023-2024 White Y Biology 40
2023-2024 Hispanic N Biology 42.86
2023-2024 Asian N Biology 47.46
2021-2022 Asian N Algebra I 50
2021-2022 Asian Y Algebra II 50
2022-2023 Hispanic N Biology 50
2023-2024 White N Biology 50
2022-2023 Asian Y Algebra II 52.63
2021-2022 White N Algebra II 53.23
2023-2024 Asian N Geometry 53.33
2023-2024 Asian N Algebra II 53.69
2022-2023 Asian Y Biology 55
2021-2022 Hispanic N Biology 56.52
2023-2024 White N Algebra II 57.14
2022-2023 White N Algebra II 57.81
2021-2022 Hispanic N Algebra II 58.33
2021-2022 Asian N Algebra II 58.57
2021-2022 two/more N Biology 59.09
2023-2024 two/more N Biology 60.61
2022-2023 Asian N Algebra II 60.99
2023-2024 two/more N Algebra II 61.54
2022-2023 Asian N Biology 61.59
2021-2022 Asian N Biology 62.7
2017-2018 Asian Y Biology 63.64
2018-2019 Asian N Algebra I 63.64
2021-2022 White N Biology 65.66
2022-2023 White N Biology 66.33
2021-2022 two/more N Algebra II 66.67
2017-2018 White N Algebra I 70
2018-2019 Hispanic N Biology 70.59
2022-2023 two/more N Biology 72.73
2016-2017 Asian N Biology 77.96
2017-2018 Asian N Biology 79.34
2018-2019 Black N Biology 80
2017-2018 Asian N Algebra I 81.82
2017-2018 Asian N Geometry 81.82
2018-2019 Asian N Biology 84.08
2017-2018 two/more N Biology 84.21
2016-2017 White N Biology 84.62
2016-2017 two/more N Biology 86.36
2022-2023 two/more N Algebra II 88.24
2018-2019 two/more N Biology 89.29
2018-2019 two/more N Algebra II 89.47
2018-2019 White N Algebra II 93.1
2017-2018 Asian N Chemistry 93.75
2018-2019 Asian N Algebra II 94.63
2018-2019 White N Biology 95.05
2017-2018 White N Biology 96.05
2018-2019 Asian N Chemistry 96.97
2016-2017 Asian N Chemistry 100
2018-2019 White N Chemistry 100


You can definitely see the impact COVID had on these scores.


+1

If you look at the rates for other local high schools, you can see a similar impact there too.


+2 If OP were correct and this were JUST about the new admissions criteria, one could reasonably expect some increase in Advanced Pass rates at the schools most impacted by the new criteria. Basically, you should see scores increase at schools whose formerly TJ-bound kids are now in their home school. However, we don't see that. We see scores falling across the board, suggesting there's more to this than just TJ and more than just the admissions criteria.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, FCPS cant just let the rankings slide continue.


Why not? They literally do not care.
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