Kids and social media

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember other new technologies that were going to harm kids and be the downfall of society. Video games in the 80s. Before that it was TV. Remember how latch key kids were going to be depressed and forgotten? Turned out it made for a lot of independent capable kids. Social media is here to stay. So is AI. It’s not going to be disastrous. It will be different than how we grew up just like it was different for us.

I agree. And new technology like veo sure makes analyzing games and collecting clips for recruiting a lot more accessible. It also provides a great platform for teams and clubs to recruit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have an account for our 10 year old. Friends have them, its like a baseball card for your kid. We only focus on the positive aspects of the game. It is parent managed. It is strange to have one. The kids do like it. Our does not have a phone and as limited on screen time. I think it can be bad thing if it's not managed or checked by the parents. I don't get the flaming or burn videos. I think you have to show good sportsmanship on the field and online as well.

Somehow that’s even worse. Just don’t do this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember getting out the phone book and prank phone calling the kids who we were going play that weekend.

“I’m gonna nutmeg you and there’s nothing you can do about it,”. Click.

So much fun.

What's a phone book?

Hahaha. I was thinking there was boomer alert on the PP also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have an account for our 10 year old. Friends have them, its like a baseball card for your kid. We only focus on the positive aspects of the game. It is parent managed. It is strange to have one. The kids do like it. Our does not have a phone and as limited on screen time. I think it can be bad thing if it's not managed or checked by the parents. I don't get the flaming or burn videos. I think you have to show good sportsmanship on the field and online as well.

Somehow that’s even worse. Just don’t do this.

Thank you for making me feel like I'm not losing my mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Social media is singlehandedly killing youth soccer in this country...

I hear you but let's play devils advocate. It could possibly be making it better. For those kids with high hopes and super competitive it may be what drives some of these kids watching their current and potentially future competition putting in work. Also when we were younger the only training vids we had available were Coever coaching vhs tapes lol, now you can pop on and see how your favorite pro or even teammate prepares and trains. Like anything with the internet it can definitely be advantageous and there will always be people that use it incorrectly.

The problem is that too many people use it incorrectly and create false realities and a facade of success. I agree that the landscape has changed since I was a kid and playing the sport. But the way kids are using social media in the soccer world these days is an absolute joke. Of course people post things here and there that are straight up and not manipulative or pushing false narratives but the obsessive social media players are more times than not, hiding behind social media. Eventually you have to actually play in high stakes games with pressure and you have to succeed You can't manufacture being a legit player like you can on IG. It's like the Photoshop of youth soccer. The truth always comes out. Maybe later for some but it always comes out. Social media certainly isn't going away and it has its uses and if you're savvy you understand that and the uses. If a player needs social media as motivation to be better then that is the problem right there. It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing.. What matters is what you're doing and how serious your plan is to be a real player. The people that are motivated by social media have a herd mentality. Herd mentality, ie doing what everyone else is doing, breeds mediocre to below average players...which is what you see a lot of every weekend in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social media is singlehandedly killing youth soccer in this country...

I hear you but let's play devils advocate. It could possibly be making it better. For those kids with high hopes and super competitive it may be what drives some of these kids watching their current and potentially future competition putting in work. Also when we were younger the only training vids we had available were Coever coaching vhs tapes lol, now you can pop on and see how your favorite pro or even teammate prepares and trains. Like anything with the internet it can definitely be advantageous and there will always be people that use it incorrectly.

The problem is that too many people use it incorrectly and create false realities and a facade of success. I agree that the landscape has changed since I was a kid and playing the sport. But the way kids are using social media in the soccer world these days is an absolute joke. Of course people post things here and there that are straight up and not manipulative or pushing false narratives but the obsessive social media players are more times than not, hiding behind social media. Eventually you have to actually play in high stakes games with pressure and you have to succeed You can't manufacture being a legit player like you can on IG. It's like the Photoshop of youth soccer. The truth always comes out. Maybe later for some but it always comes out. Social media certainly isn't going away and it has its uses and if you're savvy you understand that and the uses. If a player needs social media as motivation to be better then that is the problem right there. It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing.. What matters is what you're doing and how serious your plan is to be a real player. The people that are motivated by social media have a herd mentality. Herd mentality, ie doing what everyone else is doing, breeds mediocre to below average players...which is what you see a lot of every weekend in this country.

How'd you end up here with all that makes sense stuff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social media is singlehandedly killing youth in this country...

Corrected that for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember other new technologies that were going to harm kids and be the downfall of society. Video games in the 80s. Before that it was TV. Remember how latch key kids were going to be depressed and forgotten? Turned out it made for a lot of independent capable kids. Social media is here to stay. So is AI. It’s not going to be disastrous. It will be different than how we grew up just like it was different for us.

IDK. Does feel like some are definitely letting it rip from midfield hoping for a clip.

I'm sure some are just like in basketball they're pulling up from half court, baseball going for a grand slam rather than bringing a runner in from 3rd. There's definitely going to be those in every sport looking for likes but that shouldn't create a blanket stigma for every kid on there. The part I like for the game is I've never seen so many American kids focusing on foot skills and technical drills. Will it pan out for the US game in future remains to be determined

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have an account for our 10 year old. Friends have them, its like a baseball card for your kid. We only focus on the positive aspects of the game. It is parent managed. It is strange to have one. The kids do like it. Our does not have a phone and as limited on screen time. I think it can be bad thing if it's not managed or checked by the parents. I don't get the flaming or burn videos. I think you have to show good sportsmanship on the field and online as well.

Somehow that’s even worse. Just don’t do this.

Thank you for making me feel like I'm not losing my mind.

You'll both fall inline in short order. Just you wait and see. Everyone is doing it...and if your on message boards today, you'll have an IG account for your player tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

There are some downsides sure but I kinda feel like social media has some benefits too. It’s much easier to know what your kids are doing, where they are, who their friends are. Because they know someone or a camera is always watching and everything is permanent, kids are MORE cautious and responsible. When I was a teenager my parents had no idea where I was or what I was doing other than what I told them. I like that I can track everywhere my kid went and even how fast they were driving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Social media is singlehandedly killing youth in this country...

Corrected that for you.

Man good point...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember other new technologies that were going to harm kids and be the downfall of society. Video games in the 80s. Before that it was TV. Remember how latch key kids were going to be depressed and forgotten? Turned out it made for a lot of independent capable kids. Social media is here to stay. So is AI. It’s not going to be disastrous. It will be different than how we grew up just like it was different for us.

IDK. Does feel like some are definitely letting it rip from midfield hoping for a clip.

I'm sure some are just like in basketball they're pulling up from half court, baseball going for a grand slam rather than bringing a runner in from 3rd. There's definitely going to be those in every sport looking for likes but that shouldn't create a blanket stigma for every kid on there. The part I like for the game is I've never seen so many American kids focusing on foot skills and technical drills. Will it pan out for the US game in future remains to be determined

I hear you. But I've never seen so many kids that practice on cones in small areas, with their head down and with no pressure. Those same.kids have foot skills that look flashy but in my opinion, most of them can't fully translate them to the field or execute under pressure and absolutely struggle when the ball is not on the ground or when it's messy. Our country needs to start focusing on dynamic practice with unpredictable play, intense pressure and constant decision making if we want to produce higher caliber players. All of these IG drills you see can help to an extent but too many kids just do that and think it's going to get them somewhere on its own. This is the social media effect. My prediction is that in 5 years we will have a wealth of players that can do fancy moves and move their feet quickly but they have low tactical understanding of the game and one dimensional skill sets. It's interesting because as a player progresses to higher levels the marker of quality is how few touches can a player take to get results. Not how many touches can a player take which is what IG is conditioning our players to do. I would much rather see kids getting stuffed making one move and then figuring out how to be successful with that one move than conditioning themselves to take a million touches on the ball no matter what the situation. Sometimes a lot of touches may be needed, but watch any pro league ANYWHERE, and see how many touches pro players are taking when in possession. Not many. There just isn't enough time. But we don't have enough people in our country to educate our youth about the realities of higher levels of the game. But that is a totally different subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember other new technologies that were going to harm kids and be the downfall of society. Video games in the 80s. Before that it was TV. Remember how latch key kids were going to be depressed and forgotten? Turned out it made for a lot of independent capable kids. Social media is here to stay. So is AI. It’s not going to be disastrous. It will be different than how we grew up just like it was different for us.

IDK. Does feel like some are definitely letting it rip from midfield hoping for a clip.

I'm sure some are just like in basketball they're pulling up from half court, baseball going for a grand slam rather than bringing a runner in from 3rd. There's definitely going to be those in every sport looking for likes but that shouldn't create a blanket stigma for every kid on there. The part I like for the game is I've never seen so many American kids focusing on foot skills and technical drills. Will it pan out for the US game in future remains to be determined

I hear you. But I've never seen so many kids that practice on cones in small areas, with their head down and with no pressure. Those same.kids have foot skills that look flashy but in my opinion, most of them can't fully translate them to the field or execute under pressure and absolutely struggle when the ball is not on the ground or when it's messy. Our country needs to start focusing on dynamic practice with unpredictable play, intense pressure and constant decision making if we want to produce higher caliber players. All of these IG drills you see can help to an extent but too many kids just do that and think it's going to get them somewhere on its own. This is the social media effect. My prediction is that in 5 years we will have a wealth of players that can do fancy moves and move their feet quickly but they have low tactical understanding of the game and one dimensional skill sets. It's interesting because as a player progresses to higher levels the marker of quality is how few touches can a player take to get results. Not how many touches can a player take which is what IG is conditioning our players to do. I would much rather see kids getting stuffed making one move and then figuring out how to be successful with that one move than conditioning themselves to take a million touches on the ball no matter what the situation. Sometimes a lot of touches may be needed, but watch any pro league ANYWHERE, and see how many touches pro players are taking when in possession. Not many. There just isn't enough time. But we don't have enough people in our country to educate our youth about the realities of higher levels of the game. But that is a totally different subject.

All these club agnostic trainers videos are hilarious. Sure lots of touches but you don't have to be flashy to be efficient, but your head definitely needs to be up. That's off the topic of parents pimping out their kids though.

[Anonymous]

Your kid's teammates and coaches know who they really are at training and at games.
Their highlight reel IG doesn't fool them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m old enough to remember other new technologies that were going to harm kids and be the downfall of society. Video games in the 80s. Before that it was TV. Remember how latch key kids were going to be depressed and forgotten? Turned out it made for a lot of independent capable kids. Social media is here to stay. So is AI. It’s not going to be disastrous. It will be different than how we grew up just like it was different for us.

IDK. Does feel like some are definitely letting it rip from midfield hoping for a clip.

I'm sure some are just like in basketball they're pulling up from half court, baseball going for a grand slam rather than bringing a runner in from 3rd. There's definitely going to be those in every sport looking for likes but that shouldn't create a blanket stigma for every kid on there. The part I like for the game is I've never seen so many American kids focusing on foot skills and technical drills. Will it pan out for the US game in future remains to be determined

I hear you. But I've never seen so many kids that practice on cones in small areas, with their head down and with no pressure. Those same.kids have foot skills that look flashy but in my opinion, most of them can't fully translate them to the field or execute under pressure and absolutely struggle when the ball is not on the ground or when it's messy. Our country needs to start focusing on dynamic practice with unpredictable play, intense pressure and constant decision making if we want to produce higher caliber players. All of these IG drills you see can help to an extent but too many kids just do that and think it's going to get them somewhere on its own. This is the social media effect. My prediction is that in 5 years we will have a wealth of players that can do fancy moves and move their feet quickly but they have low tactical understanding of the game and one dimensional skill sets. It's interesting because as a player progresses to higher levels the marker of quality is how few touches can a player take to get results. Not how many touches can a player take which is what IG is conditioning our players to do. I would much rather see kids getting stuffed making one move and then figuring out how to be successful with that one move than conditioning themselves to take a million touches on the ball no matter what the situation. Sometimes a lot of touches may be needed, but watch any pro league ANYWHERE, and see how many touches pro players are taking when in possession. Not many. There just isn't enough time. But we don't have enough people in our country to educate our youth about the realities of higher levels of the game. But that is a totally different subject.

All these club agnostic trainers videos are hilarious. Sure lots of touches but you don't have to be flashy to be efficient, but your head definitely needs to be up. That's off the topic of parents pimping out their kids though.

Totally agree with you. Head down syndrome is also what social media promotes. And again, this is killing our youth players. Trainers for the most part want to make money. That's about it. Very few genuinely want to progress your kid the right way. Because that would mean telling your kid that he/she needs to actually grind WAY harder than anyone else and most kids and parents don't have that type of work ethic and won't come back to them as a result.