Cost and process for EV charging for street parking?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


This is not technically legal in D.C., though I agree people do it all over the place.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


This is not technically legal in D.C., though I agree people do it all over the place.


DC Law allows you to run extension cords for level 1 chargers as long as you use one of those ramps. See this:

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/Admin%20Issuance%20EV%20Charging%20Guidance.pdf
Anonymous
If you drive to work, a lot of the parking garages have Level 2 chargers (maybe will charge 20 miles in an hour?) and it’s free. Or just go to a level 3/fast charger and pay. It’s really easy once you know where the chargers are and download the relevant app.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


This is not technically legal in D.C., though I agree people do it all over the place.


DC Law allows you to run extension cords for level 1 chargers as long as you use one of those ramps. See this:

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/Admin%20Issuance%20EV%20Charging%20Guidance.pdf


Huh, good to know!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


This is not technically legal in D.C., though I agree people do it all over the place.


DC Law allows you to run extension cords for level 1 chargers as long as you use one of those ramps. See this:

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/Admin%20Issuance%20EV%20Charging%20Guidance.pdf


Huh, good to know!


Is this legal in Montgomery County?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is a really dumb idea.


Sorry, but above is correct.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What about just getting a non plug-in hybrid? I drive a plug-in EV and feel like this is not a good situation for plug-in charging.

You are a great candidate for at-work or municipal charging, and I hope we build more infrastructure for that. It makes so much more sense than multiple individual sidewalk-side chargers.

This makes more sense. OP I have a plug in but I have a carpad with charger. It makes no sense to have a plug-in if you don't have the capability. Maybe full EV, but not PHEV. The range is so little, at most 50 mile but more like 35 for a Rav4 in the winter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


About 3 people do this on our DC street too.

People also charge at their offices buildings or while grocery shopping.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What if the spot is taken when you need to charge?


This is exactly the problem my neighbor ran into.

She got the permitting and had a cable installed under the sidewalk and more often than not, someone parks in that spot while she’s away.

One time she came home and found another car sitting there, plugged in and charging, lol!!! She didn’t realize she needed to turn off the breaker when she wasn’t using it - so who knows how many times people were charging while she was away, haha. She then put up “resident parking only” signs she got on Amazon - and they disappeared within days. Dunno if the county took them down or a neighbor did it.

Anyway, she spent about $11,000 on a street charger that she gets to use maybe 1-2 days a week.

The whole EV thing is stupid if you don’t have a driveway.

She’s pretty bitter about it.


who buys an EV if you don't have your own place to charge it?!?!?! Seriously, seems like a ridiculous idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We have an EV and no charger at home. We charge once per week at the grocery store when we shop - it’s a non issue.


I don't drive that much, but when I do (and when it's winter/cold) I can go the 36 mile round trip and burn from 80 down to 65%. It's not a Tesla so no super fast charging. But I cannot imagine having to shop/go somewhere to charge. Nice to come home to a condo bldg, park and plug in. While not super fast, it does the job (we paid to add the charging to each parking spot about 5 years ago when the bldg offered it---best $$ we spent)
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


This is not technically legal in D.C., though I agree people do it all over the place.


DC Law allows you to run extension cords for level 1 chargers as long as you use one of those ramps. See this:

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/Admin%20Issuance%20EV%20Charging%20Guidance.pdf


Does anyone know if Montgomery County allows this or prohibits it? I know lots of people around here do it but don't know if it's legal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC and people literally run a very long cable across the sidewalk from their house to charge their EVs. Almost all of them have little flat ramps to protect the cable so no one trips on the cable.


This is not technically legal in D.C., though I agree people do it all over the place.


DC Law allows you to run extension cords for level 1 chargers as long as you use one of those ramps. See this:

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/Admin%20Issuance%20EV%20Charging%20Guidance.pdf


Does anyone know if Montgomery County allows this or prohibits it? I know lots of people around here do it but don't know if it's legal.


Doesn’t look like it
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/DPS/Resources/Files/RCI/EV%20Charging%20Stations%20in%20the%20ROW.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We have an EV and no charger at home. We charge once per week at the grocery store when we shop - it’s a non issue.


How much charge are you really getting at level 2 for 60-90 minutes of grocery shopping?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What about just getting a non plug-in hybrid? I drive a plug-in EV and feel like this is not a good situation for plug-in charging.

You are a great candidate for at-work or municipal charging, and I hope we build more infrastructure for that. It makes so much more sense than multiple individual sidewalk-side chargers.

This makes more sense. OP I have a plug in but I have a carpad with charger. It makes no sense to have a plug-in if you don't have the capability. Maybe full EV, but not PHEV. The range is so little, at most 50 mile but more like 35 for a Rav4 in the winter.


I live in DC and most weeks drive maybe 20 miles. Considering a PHEV even though I’m in OP’s situation; I figure we’ll run the cable out to the car from a charger on the house as-needed, probably 1-2x/week. Would get an EV but don’t want to worry about charging on long road trips.
Anonymous
Why not just get a hybrid?
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