2nd grader hung (jacket) by 4th grader

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parents should file a police report so perp can be sent to Juvie.

A 4th grader is 9 or 10.

Juvie seems extreme unless there is a long history of this type of behavior. Juvie isn't going to "fix" their behavior, if anything juvie will make them more violent.

I'm not sure what the solution is but a 4th grader is still a child whose brain isn't developed. He/she is learning from someone that this type of behavior is ok. That influence needs to be removed before their behavior can be changed.

Foster care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article is being over-hyped for something that it is not. All because they used the word "hung" in the title, which worked perfectly as click-bait. Hung implies someone died of asphyxiation by a noose--which leads people to also think it had something to do with race.

But a kid was bullied by a larger kid and hung him on top of something in a bathroom by his jacket (probably the hood), which made him choke. It doesn't matter that they both were black, just like it doesn't matter that white bullies tend to bully white kids and Asian bullies tend to bully Asian kids, etc.

Bad kids are physically violent, and they do it all the time in numerous ways that don't lead to news headlines. Bullying is horrible, but this is no worse than the usual, which needs to be addressed with the same energy we have towards these click-bait articles.

I hate sensationalist articles, but moreso hate the ridiculous over-responses to them.

"until he was found by an administrator "foaming out the mouth, unconscious."'
Hospitalized at childrens. Bruises. Eyes bloodshot.

Sounds like a big deal to me. I certainly wouldnt want my kid experiencing it, regardless of whether it meets the sensationalist use of the word hung.

And repeated incidents in bathrooms is a problem in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article is being over-hyped for something that it is not. All because they used the word "hung" in the title, which worked perfectly as click-bait. Hung implies someone died of asphyxiation by a noose--which leads people to also think it had something to do with race.

But a kid was bullied by a larger kid and hung him on top of something in a bathroom by his jacket (probably the hood), which made him choke. It doesn't matter that they both were black, just like it doesn't matter that white bullies tend to bully white kids and Asian bullies tend to bully Asian kids, etc.

Bad kids are physically violent, and they do it all the time in numerous ways that don't lead to news headlines. Bullying is horrible, but this is no worse than the usual, which needs to be addressed with the same energy we have towards these click-bait articles.

I hate sensationalist articles, but moreso hate the ridiculous over-responses to them.

Not sure what your agenda is, but you obviously have one. Read the article again. The use of the word hung was perfectly appropriate. The young boy was found unconscious and would certainly have died if he wasn’t found when he was. Just like any other hanging victim who is found soon enough to be revived. Perhaps you could argue that the hanging was accidental but that implies his jacket got caught going down a slide or something like that, rather than that he was deliberately terrorized to within an inch of his life in the bathroom at school. And I don’t know why you would say that people would assume it was racially motivated. The article clearly says that both boys were black.

I would be raising hell. I would have filed criminal charges and I would be suing everyone at the school and above the school who had knowledge that the fourth grader was violent and who left him alone in the school anyway. School administrators need to start to be personally liable for these things. And even the parents of the violent child, if they refused alternate placement even after knowing their child is violent. It should be up to a jury to decide whether their actions were reasonable or not given the circumstances. And if not, prison time. Stop protecting the only people who can stop these events from happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article is being over-hyped for something that it is not. All because they used the word "hung" in the title, which worked perfectly as click-bait. Hung implies someone died of asphyxiation by a noose--which leads people to also think it had something to do with race.

But a kid was bullied by a larger kid and hung him on top of something in a bathroom by his jacket (probably the hood), which made him choke. It doesn't matter that they both were black, just like it doesn't matter that white bullies tend to bully white kids and Asian bullies tend to bully Asian kids, etc.

Bad kids are physically violent, and they do it all the time in numerous ways that don't lead to news headlines. Bullying is horrible, but this is no worse than the usual, which needs to be addressed with the same energy we have towards these click-bait articles.

I hate sensationalist articles, but moreso hate the ridiculous over-responses to them.

Not sure what your agenda is, but you obviously have one. Read the article again. The use of the word hung was perfectly appropriate. The young boy was found unconscious and would certainly have died if he wasn’t found when he was. Just like any other hanging victim who is found soon enough to be revived. Perhaps you could argue that the hanging was accidental but that implies his jacket got caught going down a slide or something like that, rather than that he was deliberately terrorized to within an inch of his life in the bathroom at school. And I don’t know why you would say that people would assume it was racially motivated. The article clearly says that both boys were black.

I would be raising hell. I would have filed criminal charges and I would be suing everyone at the school and above the school who had knowledge that the fourth grader was violent and who left him alone in the school anyway. School administrators need to start to be personally liable for these things. And even the parents of the violent child, if they refused alternate placement even after knowing their child is violent. It should be up to a jury to decide whether their actions were reasonable or not given the circumstances. And if not, prison time. Stop protecting the only people who can stop these events from happening.

As a teacher and a parent, I agree with you and would escalate this all the way up. However, school admin does not decide if someone gets expelled. This is for the higher ups to decide. School admin, when there is a serious incident, have to bring it to the panel and they decide what happens. It kind of sucks because the higher ups do not get a clear understanding of who the child is or what he has done in the past. What matters, in that moment, is that incident. If school admin reports to them that it was horeseplay, then they must report that. If both kids statement said they were playing in the bathroom then admin will say it is horeseplay. Sad because a 2nd grader wont necessarily know what is “playing around.” And what is “bullying.”

[Anonymous]

4th grader needs to be expelled and in an environment where there is more adult supervision

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article is being over-hyped for something that it is not. All because they used the word "hung" in the title, which worked perfectly as click-bait. Hung implies someone died of asphyxiation by a noose--which leads people to also think it had something to do with race.

But a kid was bullied by a larger kid and hung him on top of something in a bathroom by his jacket (probably the hood), which made him choke. It doesn't matter that they both were black, just like it doesn't matter that white bullies tend to bully white kids and Asian bullies tend to bully Asian kids, etc.

Bad kids are physically violent, and they do it all the time in numerous ways that don't lead to news headlines. Bullying is horrible, but this is no worse than the usual, which needs to be addressed with the same energy we have towards these click-bait articles.

I hate sensationalist articles, but moreso hate the ridiculous over-responses to them.

Not sure what your agenda is, but you obviously have one. Read the article again. The use of the word hung was perfectly appropriate. The young boy was found unconscious and would certainly have died if he wasn’t found when he was. Just like any other hanging victim who is found soon enough to be revived. Perhaps you could argue that the hanging was accidental but that implies his jacket got caught going down a slide or something like that, rather than that he was deliberately terrorized to within an inch of his life in the bathroom at school. And I don’t know why you would say that people would assume it was racially motivated. The article clearly says that both boys were black.

I would be raising hell. I would have filed criminal charges and I would be suing everyone at the school and above the school who had knowledge that the fourth grader was violent and who left him alone in the school anyway. School administrators need to start to be personally liable for these things. And even the parents of the violent child, if they refused alternate placement even after knowing their child is violent. It should be up to a jury to decide whether their actions were reasonable or not given the circumstances. And if not, prison time. Stop protecting the only people who can stop these events from happening.

As a teacher and a parent, I agree with you and would escalate this all the way up. However, school admin does not decide if someone gets expelled. This is for the higher ups to decide. School admin, when there is a serious incident, have to bring it to the panel and they decide what happens. It kind of sucks because the higher ups do not get a clear understanding of who the child is or what he has done in the past. What matters, in that moment, is that incident. If school admin reports to them that it was horeseplay, then they must report that. If both kids statement said they were playing in the bathroom then admin will say it is horeseplay. Sad because a 2nd grader wont necessarily know what is “playing around.” And what is “bullying.”

Then let the teachers and whoever from admin explain to a jury what they told to whom and why they themselves should not be criminally liable for it. I would bet my life that this violent kid was violent before. If they gave the complete picture to the higher ups then it’s the higher ups who should be in trouble. I’m not sure why you say that only this incident matters, or that the admin doesn’t pass along a file on the problem kid. That doesn’t sound reasonable at all. Whoever made that decision should be liable for it.

[Anonymous]

Under Maryland law children under 10 can not be charged with a crime. Most 4th graders turn 10 during the school year so odds are that this kid can't be charged criminally.
https://www.peoples-law.org/juvenile-system-juvenile-courts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article is being over-hyped for something that it is not. All because they used the word "hung" in the title, which worked perfectly as click-bait. Hung implies someone died of asphyxiation by a noose--which leads people to also think it had something to do with race.

But a kid was bullied by a larger kid and hung him on top of something in a bathroom by his jacket (probably the hood), which made him choke. It doesn't matter that they both were black, just like it doesn't matter that white bullies tend to bully white kids and Asian bullies tend to bully Asian kids, etc.

Bad kids are physically violent, and they do it all the time in numerous ways that don't lead to news headlines. Bullying is horrible, but this is no worse than the usual, which needs to be addressed with the same energy we have towards these click-bait articles.

I hate sensationalist articles, but moreso hate the ridiculous over-responses to them.

Are you insane? The child was hung, strangled, by his jacket and almost killed. Murdered. I think that is "worse than the usual".

People like you who constantly want to sweep violence under the rug are definitely part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article is being over-hyped for something that it is not. All because they used the word "hung" in the title, which worked perfectly as click-bait. Hung implies someone died of asphyxiation by a noose--which leads people to also think it had something to do with race.

But a kid was bullied by a larger kid and hung him on top of something in a bathroom by his jacket (probably the hood), which made him choke. It doesn't matter that they both were black, just like it doesn't matter that white bullies tend to bully white kids and Asian bullies tend to bully Asian kids, etc.

Bad kids are physically violent, and they do it all the time in numerous ways that don't lead to news headlines. Bullying is horrible, but this is no worse than the usual, which needs to be addressed with the same energy we have towards these click-bait articles.

I hate sensationalist articles, but moreso hate the ridiculous over-responses to them.

Are you insane? The child was hung, strangled, by his jacket and almost killed. Murdered. I think that is "worse than the usual".

People like you who constantly want to sweep violence under the rug are definitely part of the problem.

People like the PP are actually almost all of the problem. There were always violent people here or there. But they were swiftly dealt with in the past and kept away from others, not just left there to keep terrorizing everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Pictures are hung, people are hanged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pictures are hung, people are hanged.

According to the article, this boy was (accidentally? intentionally? unintentionally?) hung by getting his coat caught on the door, hung like a picture, not hanged like a person.

[Anonymous]

We need new words to clearly denote the new ways we assault, batter, and kill each other.

[Anonymous]

Id wager that the bully has a bad home life with loser parents. That’s just a guess, and it’s no excuse. Is a father figure around and available?