Math Accommodations- Formulas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would ask for one, it sounds perfectly reasonable. I use statistics on a regular basis but I don't have to recall the formulas for what I am doing from memory. I am using a computer program that does the actual calculation or I can look up the formula. Even if I think I know the formula, I double check that I have it correct so that my calculations are correct. I provided a formula sheet for the research methodology class that I taught because I fail to see the point of memorizing a formula. What matters is that the student understands when to use the formula and can use the formula properly. A sheet of formulas is fine.

*everyone* would do better if they got the formulas. accommodations are supposed to level the playing field, not give an unfair advantage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have seen it in some private schools and not others. If it's an accommodation your school offers, then you can ask for it. They may ask to have the tester that you used weigh in.

At the schools I know, kids need to figure out the formulas they will need, and copy them onto an index card that is approved by a teacher. They don't get a formula sheet made by someone else.

How about on the SAT?

I certainly hope not! Come on.

Oh no, lets not mess with the integrity of the SAT 🙄

Look, giving only some kids the formulas is obviously a bridge too far. If any kids get them all kids should.

Agreed. Give them all a sheet of the formulas. There is nothing wrong with that. There is no need to memorize the formulas. What matters is that students know when to use them, why they are using them, and how to use them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would ask for one, it sounds perfectly reasonable. I use statistics on a regular basis but I don't have to recall the formulas for what I am doing from memory. I am using a computer program that does the actual calculation or I can look up the formula. Even if I think I know the formula, I double check that I have it correct so that my calculations are correct. I provided a formula sheet for the research methodology class that I taught because I fail to see the point of memorizing a formula. What matters is that the student understands when to use the formula and can use the formula properly. A sheet of formulas is fine.

*everyone* would do better if they got the formulas. accommodations are supposed to level the playing field, not give an unfair advantage.

Agreed. Give them the formula list. Perfectly fine. I don't know a professional who is hand jamming equations for projects at work. we all use excel or STATA or SPSS or any number of programs that have the formulas pre-loaded. There is no good reason to memorize the formulas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would ask for one, it sounds perfectly reasonable. I use statistics on a regular basis but I don't have to recall the formulas for what I am doing from memory. I am using a computer program that does the actual calculation or I can look up the formula. Even if I think I know the formula, I double check that I have it correct so that my calculations are correct. I provided a formula sheet for the research methodology class that I taught because I fail to see the point of memorizing a formula. What matters is that the student understands when to use the formula and can use the formula properly. A sheet of formulas is fine.

*everyone* would do better if they got the formulas. accommodations are supposed to level the playing field, not give an unfair advantage.

Agreed. Give them the formula list. Perfectly fine. I don't know a professional who is hand jamming equations for projects at work. we all use excel or STATA or SPSS or any number of programs that have the formulas pre-loaded. There is no good reason to memorize the formulas.

well yes there is, because your cognitive load is reduced if you have them memorized and fluent. someone who can memorize the formulas is better and more apt than someone who cannot, and the whole point of standardized tests is to show these sorts of skills.

next you’ll be saying kids should be allowed to use google translate for AP language exams

[Anonymous]

I don’t know what your deal is but the world has changed since 1995. People can use technology and resources available to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen it in some private schools and not others. If it's an accommodation your school offers, then you can ask for it. They may ask to have the tester that you used weigh in.

At the schools I know, kids need to figure out the formulas they will need, and copy them onto an index card that is approved by a teacher. They don't get a formula sheet made by someone else.

How about on the SAT?

Go to page 32. The formulas are given to all students.

https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-practice-test-1-digital.pdf

OP can you give an example of what formulas?

The SAT mainly has geometric formulas. Area of a circle Pi^2r Area of a rectangle = lw A =1⁄2bh; c^2 = a^2 + b^2 ; volume
Special Right Triangles; The sum of the measures in degrees of the angles of a triangle is 180.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what your deal is but the world has changed since 1995. People can use technology and resources available to them.

they can, but test measure skills and aptitude, and this often includes memorizing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen it in some private schools and not others. If it's an accommodation your school offers, then you can ask for it. They may ask to have the tester that you used weigh in.

At the schools I know, kids need to figure out the formulas they will need, and copy them onto an index card that is approved by a teacher. They don't get a formula sheet made by someone else.

How about on the SAT?

Go to page 32. The formulas are given to all students.

https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-practice-test-1-digital.pdf

OP can you give an example of what formulas?

The SAT mainly has geometric formulas. Area of a circle Pi^2r Area of a rectangle = lw A =1⁄2bh; c^2 = a^2 + b^2 ; volume
Special Right Triangles; The sum of the measures in degrees of the angles of a triangle is 180.

it’s actually tragic that the SAT has to list the formula for the freakin area of a rectangle. didn’t we learn this in 6th grade?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would ask for one, it sounds perfectly reasonable. I use statistics on a regular basis but I don't have to recall the formulas for what I am doing from memory. I am using a computer program that does the actual calculation or I can look up the formula. Even if I think I know the formula, I double check that I have it correct so that my calculations are correct. I provided a formula sheet for the research methodology class that I taught because I fail to see the point of memorizing a formula. What matters is that the student understands when to use the formula and can use the formula properly. A sheet of formulas is fine.

*everyone* would do better if they got the formulas. accommodations are supposed to level the playing field, not give an unfair advantage.

Not *everyone* has testing demonstrating a learning difference. Accommodations are targeted for the student and their learning difference. Sounds like you have an ax to grind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen it in some private schools and not others. If it's an accommodation your school offers, then you can ask for it. They may ask to have the tester that you used weigh in.

At the schools I know, kids need to figure out the formulas they will need, and copy them onto an index card that is approved by a teacher. They don't get a formula sheet made by someone else.

How about on the SAT?

Go to page 32. The formulas are given to all students.

https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/sat-practice-test-1-digital.pdf

OP can you give an example of what formulas?

The SAT mainly has geometric formulas. Area of a circle Pi^2r Area of a rectangle = lw A =1⁄2bh; c^2 = a^2 + b^2 ; volume
Special Right Triangles; The sum of the measures in degrees of the angles of a triangle is 180.

Quadratic Equation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen it in some private schools and not others. If it's an accommodation your school offers, then you can ask for it. They may ask to have the tester that you used weigh in.

At the schools I know, kids need to figure out the formulas they will need, and copy them onto an index card that is approved by a teacher. They don't get a formula sheet made by someone else.

How about on the SAT?

I certainly hope not! Come on.

Oh no, lets not mess with the integrity of the SAT 🙄

Look, giving only some kids the formulas is obviously a bridge too far. If any kids get them all kids should.

All kids do. You can stop complaining now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would ask for one, it sounds perfectly reasonable. I use statistics on a regular basis but I don't have to recall the formulas for what I am doing from memory. I am using a computer program that does the actual calculation or I can look up the formula. Even if I think I know the formula, I double check that I have it correct so that my calculations are correct. I provided a formula sheet for the research methodology class that I taught because I fail to see the point of memorizing a formula. What matters is that the student understands when to use the formula and can use the formula properly. A sheet of formulas is fine.

*everyone* would do better if they got the formulas. accommodations are supposed to level the playing field, not give an unfair advantage.

Not *everyone* has testing demonstrating a learning difference. Accommodations are targeted for the student and their learning difference. Sounds like you have an ax to grind.

Standardized testing is supposed to measure how skilled you are and how much content you learned. This in many cases includes formulas. If your disability means you cannot master part of the subject then the test scores should reflect that. Imagine if in language tests some kids claimed they needed dictionaries or AI translation!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen it in some private schools and not others. If it's an accommodation your school offers, then you can ask for it. They may ask to have the tester that you used weigh in.

At the schools I know, kids need to figure out the formulas they will need, and copy them onto an index card that is approved by a teacher. They don't get a formula sheet made by someone else.

How about on the SAT?

I certainly hope not! Come on.

Oh no, lets not mess with the integrity of the SAT 🙄

Look, giving only some kids the formulas is obviously a bridge too far. If any kids get them all kids should.

All kids do. You can stop complaining now.

In the SAT apparently the powers that be have decided that kids cannot be expected to memorize extremely basic formulas, which is just really sad.