Would a non-stellar student have a better chance if they are an underrepresented minority?

Anonymous
No. They have to meet minimum standards first.
Anonymous
No. Even before SSFA, affirmative action was a thing at the most selective colleges, ones who got multiple highly qualified applicants for every spot.

Most schools that will be matches for a kid with a 3.2, including University of North Dakota, accept all applicants that they feel have the ability to be successful at their school. They aren't deciding between qualified white, Asian and AA kids, they are acceptive every qualified kid, be they white, Asian or AA.
Anonymous
Everyone saying no is wrong. Focus on fly in programs that seek out Asian applicants. My kid is at a top school and at convocation this year, one speaker said that they have students from every state except one this year. They then yelled out if you know anyone who lives in this state, have them apply! There’s no way that a student who applies from that state next year, especially if they are the only one to do so, won’t have an increased chance of getting in. Similarly, I recently toured an ivy league with another one of my kids, and a group of minorities was told to wait to the side because their private, small tour would be starting separately from the rest of the tours that day, which were large and fairly impersonal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone saying no is wrong. Focus on fly in programs that seek out Asian applicants. My kid is at a top school and at convocation this year, one speaker said that they have students from every state except one this year. They then yelled out if you know anyone who lives in this state, have them apply! There’s no way that a student who applies from that state next year, especially if they are the only one to do so, won’t have an increased chance of getting in. Similarly, I recently toured an ivy league with another one of my kids, and a group of minorities was told to wait to the side because their private, small tour would be starting separately from the rest of the tours that day, which were large and fairly impersonal


What about this anecdote says that an underrepresented student with a 3.2 GPA will make it to an Ivy? This is what MC white people tell themselves when kids get rejected.
Newsflash: that underrepresented minority student is more than likely as exceptional, if not more, as you think your rejected kid was. SMH
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone saying no is wrong. Focus on fly in programs that seek out Asian applicants. My kid is at a top school and at convocation this year, one speaker said that they have students from every state except one this year. They then yelled out if you know anyone who lives in this state, have them apply! There’s no way that a student who applies from that state next year, especially if they are the only one to do so, won’t have an increased chance of getting in. Similarly, I recently toured an ivy league with another one of my kids, and a group of minorities was told to wait to the side because their private, small tour would be starting separately from the rest of the tours that day, which were large and fairly impersonal


What about this anecdote says that an underrepresented student with a 3.2 GPA will make it to an Ivy? This is what MC white people tell themselves when kids get rejected.
Newsflash: that underrepresented minority student is more than likely as exceptional, if not more, as you think your rejected kid was. SMH


It is true that some URMs with lower stats do see some advantages. This does not mean all minorities have lower stats. It does not mean all lower stats minorities receive benefits. It does not mean that any stats from minorities will work. It means just what I said. I think we’ve discussed this before - if it’s you - when you (or someone else) disagreed with my assertion that lower stats minorities were getting med school easier acceptances and were not doing as well. Then I posted the proof.
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