VA Tech Engineering if less than 4.0uw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

You have posted this, almost verbatim, so many times on this forum. PLENTY of top engineering talent goes to VT. Many also go to the schools you listed - but it's laughable to claim that they don't also go to VT. Especially for most people, who can't afford the privates. I think you're the TJ parent whose kid didn't get into VT a few years ago and you still can't let it go.

? have never posted before and mine is at an ivy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is the common data set for Fall 2023 (1 year lag)
https://aie.vt.edu/content/dam/aie_vt_edu/common-data-set/23-24/CDS_2023-2024.pdf

students who submitted test scores; 72% had 4.0
students who went TO, 55% had 4.0

few B's seem to be okay. interesting to see lower GPA for TO .. would have thought it was the other way.

Of course not, the students who go TO are the weaker students.

VT doesn’t need all As! Their main priority is first gen applicants (since they want 40% of their student body to be first gen).

That isn't their "main priority" and they've already reached that goal. But keep up trying to explain why your own kid didn't get in.
DP

Such a silly retort - are you the sour grapes poster? The way VT can keep making its 40% goal is to keep prioritizing it in admissions. They can’t stop now if the goal is still important to them. And 40% of applicants aren’t first gen so the ones that are will be prioritized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember, the average Va Tech freshman admitted to engineering has a math SAT score BELOW 700.

Not surprising. It is a good but not great school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From an FCPS school. Is admissions expectation all As in high school math classes?

Is this a joke? 4.0 Weighted yes, but not UW. Doesnt your school have scoir or naviance? VT even engineering is not a difficult admit requiring top students. The math SAT avg is below 700. Bs are fine. More As than Bs is best, and taking higher level STEM classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

Undergrad ranking has nothing to do with cross yield. At TJ all of the top stem kids do not pick VT despite getting in. They have gone to Ivies, GA Tech, Hopkins, Michigan, MIT and Duke, all for engineering, in the past 4 yrs. VT is a safety school for these kids, as is Purdue. Same with the top private schools: they do not pick VT. They want the right peer group and VT students with SAT math averaging 700 would be a horrible fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

+1
The PP is so transparent. His/her kid didn’t get into VT - which she felt he was completely entitled to. She takes every available opportunity to sniff at VT and act as if it’s beneath her when the reality is, she just has a huge chip on her shoulder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From an FCPS school. Is admissions expectation all As in high school math classes?

Is this a joke? 4.0 Weighted yes, but not UW. Doesnt your school have scoir or naviance? VT even engineering is not a difficult admit requiring top students. The math SAT avg is below 700. Bs are fine. More As than Bs is best, and taking higher level STEM classes.

You understand what an “average” is, right? There are plenty of math scores above 700.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

Undergrad ranking has nothing to do with cross yield. At TJ all of the top stem kids do not pick VT despite getting in. They have gone to Ivies, GA Tech, Hopkins, Michigan, MIT and Duke, all for engineering, in the past 4 yrs. VT is a safety school for these kids, as is Purdue. Same with the top private schools: they do not pick VT. They want the right peer group and VT students with SAT math averaging 700 would be a horrible fit.

Verbatim. How many times have you posted this? Your TJ kid was rejected from VT and you still can’t believe it. So you spend your time writing nonsensical screeds about the school that are utterly comical and unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

You have posted this, almost verbatim, so many times on this forum. PLENTY of top engineering talent goes to VT. Many also go to the schools you listed - but it's laughable to claim that they don't also go to VT. Especially for most people, who can't afford the privates. I think you're the TJ parent whose kid didn't get into VT a few years ago and you still can't let it go.

? have never posted before and mine is at an ivy

BS. Your trademark posts are all over this forum.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

Engineering is not just computer science, but most high school students who want to do "engineering" actually want to do computer science, so the top "engineering" schools are not the same as the top CS schools. CS is not an engineering degree.

CS is not ABET, it's not in the Engineering-only school at colleges that have one, and at direct-admit limited-enrollment-program schools like UMD, CS is more selective than engineering majors.



Also: "U.S. News & World Report's Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs rankings are based solely on the judgments of deans and senior faculty at peer institutions who participated in a peer assessment survey."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is the common data set for Fall 2023 (1 year lag)
https://aie.vt.edu/content/dam/aie_vt_edu/common-data-set/23-24/CDS_2023-2024.pdf

students who submitted test scores; 72% had 4.0
students who went TO, 55% had 4.0

few B's seem to be okay. interesting to see lower GPA for TO .. would have thought it was the other way.

Of course not, the students who go TO are the weaker students.

VT doesn’t need all As! Their main priority is first gen applicants (since they want 40% of their student body to be first gen).

That isn't their "main priority" and they've already reached that goal. But keep up trying to explain why your own kid didn't get in.
DP

It's an ongoing goal, not one time goal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here is the common data set for Fall 2023 (1 year lag)
https://aie.vt.edu/content/dam/aie_vt_edu/common-data-set/23-24/CDS_2023-2024.pdf

students who submitted test scores; 72% had 4.0
students who went TO, 55% had 4.0

few B's seem to be okay. interesting to see lower GPA for TO .. would have thought it was the other way.

Of course not, the students who go TO are the weaker students.

VT doesn’t need all As! Their main priority is first gen applicants (since they want 40% of their student body to be first gen).

That isn't their "main priority" and they've already reached that goal. But keep up trying to explain why your own kid didn't get in.
DP

Such a silly retort - are you the sour grapes poster? The way VT can keep making its 40% goal is to keep prioritizing it in admissions. They can’t stop now if the goal is still important to them. And 40% of applicants aren’t first gen so the ones that are will be prioritized.

You're still telling lies.

https://news.vt.edu/articles/2022/09/admissions-fall-census-2022.html#

"40.4 percent of the incoming class are underrepresented minorities or underserved students (URM/USS),
which includes
Pell-eligible students,
first-generation students,
and veterans."

[Anonymous]

According to Virginia Tech's engineering page, the average SAT for math for engineering students was 689. They didn't publish the median, but even still, if your child is in the top 10% of their class in Virgina, and gets that SAT score, Va Tech is an easy admit, even for engineering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to Virginia Tech's engineering page, the average SAT for math for engineering students was 689. They didn't publish the median, but even still, if your child is in the top 10% of their class in Virgina, and gets that SAT score, Va Tech is an easy admit, even for engineering.

An “average” means that many of those scores are above 700. Good luck assuming this is an easy admit.