Can a school retaliate in the TJ admissions process

[Anonymous]

OP you are clearly too good for TJ. TJ is beneath you. You know better than TJ for sure. Don’t try to apply you will just be disappointed going to school with plebs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

Dismissing something as “stupid nonsense” is hardly polite.

NP- It might not be polite but it's pretty apt when a school goes overboard with it, to the point that it takes too much time away from academics.

You missed the point and are addressing a different argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you shield your child from controversial books, are you sure they are ready for a rigorous education that requires critical thinking?

There's a reason why they allow people to opt out.
Too much of what masquerades as education is indoctrination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you shield your child from controversial books, are you sure they are ready for a rigorous education that requires critical thinking?

There's a reason why they allow people to opt out.
Too much of what masquerades as education is indoctrination.

For the weak-minded, sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

Wow. Your family values believe SEL is "stupid...nonsense", doesn't allow "controversial books", and believes schools "push their agenda". What, exactly, are these "values" of which you speak?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

Your middle school is probably just waiting for your student to graduate so they won’t have to deal with you anymore. They likely don’t care whether your student gets into TJ, their base school, or somewhere else.

Lol. Anyone who takes school admin and teacher time to customize or complain about their child's education becomes a "we'll be glad when you're gone" candidate.

Just for the reason that your specialness and advocacy are taking time away from their core job - which is NOT parent relations.

I agree with those who say:

1) The school would be more indifferent or maybe even positive about moving you out

2) Quality teachers and admins do not punish kids for their parents' behaviors

3) You and your kid might have issues at TJ

Also, you should consider that if your child has demonstrated disrespect, evangelizing, or complaining about the current school...this could show up in evaluative feedback somewhere along the line.

Education of children is mainly a conformist experience. You can switch institutions to conform to different norms that suit you better. But basic human nature works against complainers.

You're right that a lot of SEL is b.s. but the goals are pro-social. So hard to speak out against without looking like an AH.

if SEL is B.S., what else would you suggest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

Your middle school is probably just waiting for your student to graduate so they won’t have to deal with you anymore. They likely don’t care whether your student gets into TJ, their base school, or somewhere else.

Lol. Anyone who takes school admin and teacher time to customize or complain about their child's education becomes a "we'll be glad when you're gone" candidate.

Just for the reason that your specialness and advocacy are taking time away from their core job - which is NOT parent relations.

I agree with those who say:

1) The school would be more indifferent or maybe even positive about moving you out

2) Quality teachers and admins do not punish kids for their parents' behaviors

3) You and your kid might have issues at TJ

Also, you should consider that if your child has demonstrated disrespect, evangelizing, or complaining about the current school...this could show up in evaluative feedback somewhere along the line.

Education of children is mainly a conformist experience. You can switch institutions to conform to different norms that suit you better. But basic human nature works against complainers.

You're right that a lot of SEL is b.s. but the goals are pro-social. So hard to speak out against without looking like an AH.

if SEL is B.S., what else would you suggest?

DP. I'd suggest getting on with it, teaching academics, rather than spending time on SEL which is usually useless and sometimes harmful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

“I am not interested in my child learning anything that challenges their thinking beyond what I’ve instilled in them. I only want them to learn what I believe in.” sorry, but this isn’t your right in the public school system. They’re not supposed to be echo chambers and can’t customize to individual belief systems. (Thank goodness!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren't that special.

But I don't think you'll like the course material at TJ.

Or the cohort.

Or most people in Northern VA.

Maybe Florida or Texas would be a better fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you shield your child from controversial books, are you sure they are ready for a rigorous education that requires critical thinking?

There's a reason why they allow people to opt out.
Too much of what masquerades as education is indoctrination.

For the weak-minded, sure.

I don't think only weak minded kids are being indoctrinated, it is all kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

“I am not interested in my child learning anything that challenges their thinking beyond what I’ve instilled in them. I only want them to learn what I believe in.” sorry, but this isn’t your right in the public school system. They’re not supposed to be echo chambers and can’t customize to individual belief systems. (Thank goodness!)

Weren't you paying attention. That is exactly what we allow. You can opt out of the more controversial stuff.
You would feel the same way if they started teaching trumpsim in our schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren't that special.

But I don't think you'll like the course material at TJ.

Or the cohort.

Or most people in Northern VA.

Maybe Florida or Texas would be a better fit.

Over 1/3 of Fairfax County voted for Youngkin.
~28% of fairfax voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020

[Anonymous]

If you don't see most SEL as a time waster at your kids' schools, you either homeschool or don't have kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of those parents who always questions things. I am always opting out of stupid SEL nonsense, controversial books. and the like, and in general I don't allow the school to push their agenda to my kid. What I do however is just for my kid, I don't go public with all these, I always resolve the issues at the school level or at the FCPS admin level. In other words, I am not an activist, all I care about is that my child is instilled with our family values., but I always push back if I have to, and push back politely but firmly.
Would all these play a role to my kid's TJ admission process? Is there a chance that the school retaliates behind the scenes and "kills" my kid's chances, assume all else is equal?

“I am not interested in my child learning anything that challenges their thinking beyond what I’ve instilled in them. I only want them to learn what I believe in.” sorry, but this isn’t your right in the public school system. They’re not supposed to be echo chambers and can’t customize to individual belief systems. (Thank goodness!)

Weren't you paying attention. That is exactly what we allow. You can opt out of the more controversial stuff.
You would feel the same way if they started teaching trumpsim in our schools.

Yeah I hate the left-wing algebra and physical science! Drives me crazy that my kids are indoctrinated into this! And don’t get me started on the flag football in PE. And I can’t stand it that my boy crazy teenage daughter is kind and inclusive of people with different sexual orientations. I wish she’d bully them like a normal teen instead of accepting them as different than she is. Oh, and she acknowledges that slavery happened and was wrong. Those liberals are taking over education!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren't that special.

But I don't think you'll like the course material at TJ.

Or the cohort.

Or most people in Northern VA.

Maybe Florida or Texas would be a better fit.

Over 1/3 of Fairfax County voted for Youngkin.
~28% of fairfax voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020

Gross.

And even more of that in FL/TX. Bye!