Chantilly HS Honors classes

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Anonymous wrote:There is something due at the end of every class period. They are assignments that often can’t be completed during the class period - they get started but never finish. It’s exhausting. Why can’t they just lecture, have the kids take notes, and eventually have a quiz or test. Why does every class period need to have some kind of output?

I can’t tell if this is a joke or not.

There is output every class because otherwise 75% of kids would not participate. Accountability is the only way to get kids to do the work required to get their test grades to a good level.

The good news is with the 70/30 split, it’s okay if they don’t finish all the classwork. It’s guaranteed a minimum 50% for true effort, so with decent test grades you can still have an A or B.

This is the issue. There is so much class work and my child is putting too much effort into it. It barely debts the grade.

Just trying to clarify: You think the grade should be based on effort?

No, I think since the classwork isn’t worth as much, maybe they need to not spend as much time on it. I get the sense that other kids quickly complete it, but my kid is working to perfection on everything - maybe putting more effort than necessary into it. My child should reserve that effort for the summatives, which are worth more. FWIW, grades in all classes are excellent but I feel my child is working more than normal to stay afloat.

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Anonymous wrote:There is something due at the end of every class period. They are assignments that often can’t be completed during the class period - they get started but never finish. It’s exhausting. Why can’t they just lecture, have the kids take notes, and eventually have a quiz or test. Why does every class period need to have some kind of output?

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Ahh. I agree then, learning to prioritize tasks is a fabulous skill to work on!

I can’t tell if this is a joke or not.

There is output every class because otherwise 75% of kids would not participate. Accountability is the only way to get kids to do the work required to get their test grades to a good level.

The good news is with the 70/30 split, it’s okay if they don’t finish all the classwork. It’s guaranteed a minimum 50% for true effort, so with decent test grades you can still have an A or B.

This is the issue. There is so much class work and my child is putting too much effort into it. It barely debts the grade.

Just trying to clarify: You think the grade should be based on effort?

No, I think since the classwork isn’t worth as much, maybe they need to not spend as much time on it. I get the sense that other kids quickly complete it, but my kid is working to perfection on everything - maybe putting more effort than necessary into it. My child should reserve that effort for the summatives, which are worth more. FWIW, grades in all classes are excellent but I feel my child is working more than normal to stay afloat.

[Anonymous]

What do you guys think the point of honors is?? These are the same complaints parents are now making with AP. They are advanced classes *with a GPA bump* for a reason. If your kids can’t manage that, that’s what academic level is for. The solution isn’t dumb down and make advanced classes easier - then the kids who need and deserve to be challenged won’t be so you and your kids can claim they take honors/AP.

[Anonymous]

Honestly? I think it might be possible that your kid says they are "working on homework" for 3 hours at night, but really they are getting distracted by their phone, etc for at least an hour or so during that time.

If not, then they have choices to make for future course selections. I will say that both of my kids went through Rocky Run and Chantilly. They both took all Honors and AP classes and did not have anything resembling "hours of homework every night." They worked very efficiently throughout the school day. Currently, they are both doing very well in the Engineering programs at UVA and NC State.

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I agree about the large jump in effort from MS to high school. I can count on my hands how many times my kid did any school work at home, studied etc. and he had all As throughout both years in all AAP classes.

9th grade was at least an hour plus homework every night. I’m not complaining. But it was a shock, and first two quarter grades showed it. He does better time management now in 10th grade and has learned how to study more. It seems like even the questions on tests etc are deeper than in middle. Again, not complaining, but middle school should have been more rigorous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree about the large jump in effort from MS to high school. I can count on my hands how many times my kid did any school work at home, studied etc. and he had all As throughout both years in all AAP classes.

9th grade was at least an hour plus homework every night. I’m not complaining. But it was a shock, and first two quarter grades showed it. He does better time management now in 10th grade and has learned how to study more. It seems like even the questions on tests etc are deeper than in middle. Again, not complaining, but middle school should have been more rigorous.

+1 the writing in MS was nonexistent for my kid, who was in AAP at Carson. So disappointing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly? I think it might be possible that your kid says they are "working on homework" for 3 hours at night, but really they are getting distracted by their phone, etc for at least an hour or so during that time.

If not, then they have choices to make for future course selections. I will say that both of my kids went through Rocky Run and Chantilly. They both took all Honors and AP classes and did not have anything resembling "hours of homework every night." They worked very efficiently throughout the school day. Currently, they are both doing very well in the Engineering programs at UVA and NC State.

My child’s phone is not in their room while they do homework. My child complains they cannot concentrate at school during the time they are given in class to work on something; therefore my child is constantly bringing assignments home. It is beyond frustrating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly? I think it might be possible that your kid says they are "working on homework" for 3 hours at night, but really they are getting distracted by their phone, etc for at least an hour or so during that time.

If not, then they have choices to make for future course selections. I will say that both of my kids went through Rocky Run and Chantilly. They both took all Honors and AP classes and did not have anything resembling "hours of homework every night." They worked very efficiently throughout the school day. Currently, they are both doing very well in the Engineering programs at UVA and NC State.

My child’s phone is not in their room while they do homework. My child complains they cannot concentrate at school during the time they are given in class to work on something; therefore my child is constantly bringing assignments home. It is beyond frustrating.

Why can't they concentrate in class? If it is too noisy, perhaps they can bring in some noise-canceling headphones. My son has sensory issues and has headphones to use during classwork time. He has no IEP/504; he just asks his teachers ahead of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly? I think it might be possible that your kid says they are "working on homework" for 3 hours at night, but really they are getting distracted by their phone, etc for at least an hour or so during that time.

If not, then they have choices to make for future course selections. I will say that both of my kids went through Rocky Run and Chantilly. They both took all Honors and AP classes and did not have anything resembling "hours of homework every night." They worked very efficiently throughout the school day. Currently, they are both doing very well in the Engineering programs at UVA and NC State.

My child’s phone is not in their room while they do homework. My child complains they cannot concentrate at school during the time they are given in class to work on something; therefore my child is constantly bringing assignments home. It is beyond frustrating.

Why can't they concentrate in class? If it is too noisy, perhaps they can bring in some noise-canceling headphones. My son has sensory issues and has headphones to use during classwork time. He has no IEP/504; he just asks his teachers ahead of time.

I just suggested noise cancelling headphones but they are afraid to appear different and weird by doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly? I think it might be possible that your kid says they are "working on homework" for 3 hours at night, but really they are getting distracted by their phone, etc for at least an hour or so during that time.

If not, then they have choices to make for future course selections. I will say that both of my kids went through Rocky Run and Chantilly. They both took all Honors and AP classes and did not have anything resembling "hours of homework every night." They worked very efficiently throughout the school day. Currently, they are both doing very well in the Engineering programs at UVA and NC State.

My child’s phone is not in their room while they do homework. My child complains they cannot concentrate at school during the time they are given in class to work on something; therefore my child is constantly bringing assignments home. It is beyond frustrating.

Why can't they concentrate in class? If it is too noisy, perhaps they can bring in some noise-canceling headphones. My son has sensory issues and has headphones to use during classwork time. He has no IEP/504; he just asks his teachers ahead of time.

I just suggested noise cancelling headphones but they are afraid to appear different and weird by doing that.

You and your kid have a million excuses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you guys think the point of honors is?? These are the same complaints parents are now making with AP. They are advanced classes *with a GPA bump* for a reason. If your kids can’t manage that, that’s what academic level is for. The solution isn’t dumb down and make advanced classes easier - then the kids who need and deserve to be challenged won’t be so you and your kids can claim they take honors/AP.

THIS. Please stop complaining about this and instead have your kid take classes that match their abilities. My 9th grade DC is so happy that at least some of her classes are finally moving at a pace that she's not bored out of her mind and is actually learning some things. She doesn't waste time on her computer or phone in school and uses any free time to get work done. She has max of an hour of HW remaining at home each night and has all As. Please don't ask the schools to water down honors and AP classes, just move your kid down a level or accept that they're not an A student. FWIW, I'm not bragging about my A student, I have another who is not like this, and he takes Honors/AP where he has strengths (math and science), but doesn't in classes that are harder for him like English or he takes Honors but accepts that he's going to be striving for a B -- and we are fine with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly? I think it might be possible that your kid says they are "working on homework" for 3 hours at night, but really they are getting distracted by their phone, etc for at least an hour or so during that time.

If not, then they have choices to make for future course selections. I will say that both of my kids went through Rocky Run and Chantilly. They both took all Honors and AP classes and did not have anything resembling "hours of homework every night." They worked very efficiently throughout the school day. Currently, they are both doing very well in the Engineering programs at UVA and NC State.

My child’s phone is not in their room while they do homework. My child complains they cannot concentrate at school during the time they are given in class to work on something; therefore my child is constantly bringing assignments home. It is beyond frustrating.

Why can't they concentrate in class? If it is too noisy, perhaps they can bring in some noise-canceling headphones. My son has sensory issues and has headphones to use during classwork time. He has no IEP/504; he just asks his teachers ahead of time.

I just suggested noise cancelling headphones but they are afraid to appear different and weird by doing that.

You and your kid have a million excuses

+1
High school is harder than middle school. Kids will need to up their game. Btw, spoiler alert, college will be harder than high school. Kids are not just learning the academics at school. They are learning all kinds of things like how much effort they need to put in to get the results they desire, how to work independently or in a group, what kind of supports do they need to be successful, what's more important, using noise cancelling headphones in order to be able to effectively concentrate in a classroom full of chaos, or looking cool.

It's all part of the learning process. They'll need to figure out how badly they want the A and what they are willing to do to get it. Maybe they don't want it that badly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you guys think the point of honors is?? These are the same complaints parents are now making with AP. They are advanced classes *with a GPA bump* for a reason. If your kids can’t manage that, that’s what academic level is for. The solution isn’t dumb down and make advanced classes easier - then the kids who need and deserve to be challenged won’t be so you and your kids can claim they take honors/AP.

+ some parents want the bump without the hard learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you guys think the point of honors is?? These are the same complaints parents are now making with AP. They are advanced classes *with a GPA bump* for a reason. If your kids can’t manage that, that’s what academic level is for. The solution isn’t dumb down and make advanced classes easier - then the kids who need and deserve to be challenged won’t be so you and your kids can claim they take honors/AP.

THIS. Please stop complaining about this and instead have your kid take classes that match their abilities. My 9th grade DC is so happy that at least some of her classes are finally moving at a pace that she's not bored out of her mind and is actually learning some things. She doesn't waste time on her computer or phone in school and uses any free time to get work done. She has max of an hour of HW remaining at home each night and has all As. Please don't ask the schools to water down honors and AP classes, just move your kid down a level or accept that they're not an A student. FWIW, I'm not bragging about my A student, I have another who is not like this, and he takes Honors/AP where he has strengths (math and science), but doesn't in classes that are harder for him like English or he takes Honors but accepts that he's going to be striving for a B -- and we are fine with that.

OP here. Why do you assume my kid doesn’t have As? My kid has all As actually, close to 100% in all classes. But I feel like my child spends too much time doing work for the classes. Is that a reason to drop down? I don’t know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you guys think the point of honors is?? These are the same complaints parents are now making with AP. They are advanced classes *with a GPA bump* for a reason. If your kids can’t manage that, that’s what academic level is for. The solution isn’t dumb down and make advanced classes easier - then the kids who need and deserve to be challenged won’t be so you and your kids can claim they take honors/AP.

THIS. Please stop complaining about this and instead have your kid take classes that match their abilities. My 9th grade DC is so happy that at least some of her classes are finally moving at a pace that she's not bored out of her mind and is actually learning some things. She doesn't waste time on her computer or phone in school and uses any free time to get work done. She has max of an hour of HW remaining at home each night and has all As. Please don't ask the schools to water down honors and AP classes, just move your kid down a level or accept that they're not an A student. FWIW, I'm not bragging about my A student, I have another who is not like this, and he takes Honors/AP where he has strengths (math and science), but doesn't in classes that are harder for him like English or he takes Honors but accepts that he's going to be striving for a B -- and we are fine with that.

OP here. Why do you assume my kid doesn’t have As? My kid has all As actually, close to 100% in all classes. But I feel like my child spends too much time doing work for the classes. Is that a reason to drop down? I don’t know.

Then your kid is learning the appropriate lessons. In order to get the A and the grade bump, you must spend a lot of time and work hard. That is what is required.