Is Pre-cal an AP class?

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Anonymous wrote:When I was a high school student AP courses were only available to seniors and the most talented juniors. Herding freshman into AP is such a disservice to the students

Not anymore.

My kid who was a senior last year had AP Comp Sci Principles as one of his classes, and I kid you not, about a quarter of the class was literally freshman, and then the rest were juniors or seniors on the other hand, I count that he said there was only around 1-2 sophomores in the class.

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Anonymous wrote:AP precalc is generally considered less rigorous than honors precalc but more rigorous than on level precalc. Several threads discuss this in detail.

The big question for me is “what colleges give college credit for precalc?” If the answer is none, I’m not sure an AP class makes sense here.

It's a sop to the kids who take it in senior year. Serves no purpose for the 9th graders taking honors precalc and who will go on to AP Calc BC, then multivariable then whatever else in dual enrollment.

No purpose to who? My child is doing it. They enjoy math.

Because if you're not a senior, Honors Precalc is more comprehensive and prepares you better for AP Calc BC (or Ap Calc AB).
If you're a senior, and only at precalc level, it's nice to be able to say you took an AP in math.
If your school doesn't offer Honors Precalc, then ask for it to be reinstated.

+1. The AP precalc serves as a capstone for those who won't take calc in HS. Honors precalc is better at preparing students for AP Calculus.

[Anonymous]

I just posted something about the difference between honors / AP / regular classes on another thread.

Since “honors for all” is more or less a thing now - AP is now Honors and Honors is now Regular/ On level.

This is a big change from when we were all in HS!

If they have watered down Honors classes then 9th and 10th high performing students should take APs.

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Anonymous wrote:I just posted something about the difference between honors / AP / regular classes on another thread.

Since “honors for all” is more or less a thing now - AP is now Honors and Honors is now Regular/ On level.

This is a big change from when we were all in HS!

If they have watered down Honors classes then 9th and 10th high performing students should take APs.

Nope!

This thread is about a new AP class that replaced the on-level class, and Honors is the higher level class.

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Anonymous wrote:AP precalc is generally considered less rigorous than honors precalc but more rigorous than on level precalc. Several threads discuss this in detail.

The big question for me is “what colleges give college credit for precalc?” If the answer is none, I’m not sure an AP class makes sense here.

It's a sop to the kids who take it in senior year. Serves no purpose for the 9th graders taking honors precalc and who will go on to AP Calc BC, then multivariable then whatever else in dual enrollment.

No purpose to who? My child is doing it. They enjoy math.

Because if you're not a senior, Honors Precalc is more comprehensive and prepares you better for AP Calc BC (or Ap Calc AB).
If you're a senior, and only at precalc level, it's nice to be able to say you took an AP in math.
If your school doesn't offer Honors Precalc, then ask for it to be reinstated.

+1. The AP precalc serves as a capstone for those who won't take calc in HS. Honors precalc is better at preparing students for AP Calculus.

+1. Honors PreCal is definitely the class to take for Cal BC preparation. I honestly have no idea why AP Pre-Cal was even created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are several Pre-Calc options, not all of which are available to every student.

There's plain old Pre-Calc, Honors Pre-Calc, AP Pre-Calc and then the magnet program classes -- Magnet Pre-Calc (basically Algebra 2 & Pre-Calc together over 3 semesters, with additional depth/enrichment) & Magnet Functions (basically the same over 2 semesters -- this is really difficult for nearly all 9th-graders, even those in the magnets; there's a number of magnet students each year who pull back to Magnet Pre-Calc).

I would guess that most high schools offering AP Pre-Calc (a newer addition to the AP beastiary) would do it in lieu of Honors Pre-Calc to manage teaching assignments/class sizes, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was someplace with both. I don't know if the AP version is considered more rigorous or not, but it would offer college credit. Wouldn't mind hearing others' experiences, there.

Usually more than half the students in magnet precalc also already completed magnet algebra 2 at TPMS.

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Anonymous wrote:AP precalc is generally considered less rigorous than honors precalc but more rigorous than on level precalc. Several threads discuss this in detail.

The big question for me is “what colleges give college credit for precalc?” If the answer is none, I’m not sure an AP class makes sense here.

It's a sop to the kids who take it in senior year. Serves no purpose for the 9th graders taking honors precalc and who will go on to AP Calc BC, then multivariable then whatever else in dual enrollment.

No purpose to who? My child is doing it. They enjoy math.

Because if you're not a senior, Honors Precalc is more comprehensive and prepares you better for AP Calc BC (or Ap Calc AB).
If you're a senior, and only at precalc level, it's nice to be able to say you took an AP in math.
If your school doesn't offer Honors Precalc, then ask for it to be reinstated.

+1. The AP precalc serves as a capstone for those who won't take calc in HS. Honors precalc is better at preparing students for AP Calculus.

+1. Honors PreCal is definitely the class to take for Cal BC preparation. I honestly have no idea why AP Pre-Cal was even created.

The College Board's reason why they wanted to make AP Pre-Calc:

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Anonymous wrote:AP precalc is generally considered less rigorous than honors precalc but more rigorous than on level precalc. Several threads discuss this in detail.

The big question for me is “what colleges give college credit for precalc?” If the answer is none, I’m not sure an AP class makes sense here.

It's a sop to the kids who take it in senior year. Serves no purpose for the 9th graders taking honors precalc and who will go on to AP Calc BC, then multivariable then whatever else in dual enrollment.

No purpose to who? My child is doing it. They enjoy math.

Because if you're not a senior, Honors Precalc is more comprehensive and prepares you better for AP Calc BC (or Ap Calc AB).
If you're a senior, and only at precalc level, it's nice to be able to say you took an AP in math.
If your school doesn't offer Honors Precalc, then ask for it to be reinstated.

+1. The AP precalc serves as a capstone for those who won't take calc in HS. Honors precalc is better at preparing students for AP Calculus.

+1. Honors PreCal is definitely the class to take for Cal BC preparation. I honestly have no idea why AP Pre-Cal was even created.

The College Board's reason why they wanted to make AP Pre-Calc:

True. But that doesn’t mean kids should take it. And scholls and parents really need to explain this.

[Anonymous]

I will bet the people in MCPs who decide what APs to offer don’t understand that AP precalc is less rigorous than honors.

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Anonymous wrote:AP precalc is generally considered less rigorous than honors precalc but more rigorous than on level precalc. Several threads discuss this in detail.

The big question for me is “what colleges give college credit for precalc?” If the answer is none, I’m not sure an AP class makes sense here.

It's a sop to the kids who take it in senior year. Serves no purpose for the 9th graders taking honors precalc and who will go on to AP Calc BC, then multivariable then whatever else in dual enrollment.

No purpose to who? My child is doing it. They enjoy math.

Because if you're not a senior, Honors Precalc is more comprehensive and prepares you better for AP Calc BC (or Ap Calc AB).
If you're a senior, and only at precalc level, it's nice to be able to say you took an AP in math.
If your school doesn't offer Honors Precalc, then ask for it to be reinstated.

+1. The AP precalc serves as a capstone for those who won't take calc in HS. Honors precalc is better at preparing students for AP Calculus.

+1. Honors PreCal is definitely the class to take for Cal BC preparation. I honestly have no idea why AP Pre-Cal was even created.

The College Board's reason why they wanted to make AP Pre-Calc:

At least MCPS is paying for the AP exams now.