Services for autistic kids in Loudoun County public schools

[Anonymous]

stay in Pennsylvania.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS.

OP, it does however sound like you have excellent services in PA compared to VA, and I would be wary of leaving a good situation.

[Anonymous]

I work in an ES and I have never seen a kid with a 1:1 aide in Gen Ed, regardless of who provides it. There is an intensive Aut classroom with a 1:1 ratio but that room has extreme behaviors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS.

OP, it does however sound like you have excellent services in PA compared to VA, and I would be wary of leaving a good situation.

You’ve seen it for a Gen Ed student? I haven’t. We recently got a new student with 230 service minutes per day and everyone was in shock saying that’s the most they have ever seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS.

OP, it does however sound like you have excellent services in PA compared to VA, and I would be wary of leaving a good situation.

You’ve seen it for a Gen Ed student? I haven’t. We recently got a new student with 230 service minutes per day and everyone was in shock saying that’s the most they have ever seen.

^^^And a lot of that is with a para who is not 1:1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS.

OP, it does however sound like you have excellent services in PA compared to VA, and I would be wary of leaving a good situation.

You’ve seen it for a Gen Ed student? I haven’t. We recently got a new student with 230 service minutes per day and everyone was in shock saying that’s the most they have ever seen.

There is no way they’ve seen it for a Gen Ed student, that setup is not within LCPS structure. For students who need that kind of additional support, it becomes a discussion of private placement that the county would have to pay for. FCPS supports 1:1 aides and has special needs schools, LCPS does not. OP’s kid, if they need a 1:1 aide, would almost without question be in a self contained AUT class in LCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS.

OP, it does however sound like you have excellent services in PA compared to VA, and I would be wary of leaving a good situation.

You’ve seen it for a Gen Ed student? I haven’t. We recently got a new student with 230 service minutes per day and everyone was in shock saying that’s the most they have ever seen.

There is no way they’ve seen it for a Gen Ed student, that setup is not within LCPS structure. For students who need that kind of additional support, it becomes a discussion of private placement that the county would have to pay for. FCPS supports 1:1 aides and has special needs schools, LCPS does not. OP’s kid, if they need a 1:1 aide, would almost without question be in a self contained AUT class in LCPS.

Even regular self-contained AUT classes in LCPS are not 1:1 in our elementary school. 1 teacher, 2 assistants, up to 8 students. But no one in that classroom could function the entire day in Gen Ed, even with a para following them around.

[Anonymous]

I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS for students with IEPs who spend the majority of the time in gen ed. They do this when they deem it necessary. It is often more appropriate for a student to be in a self-contained class than to have a 1:1 in aide in a gen ed setting, however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS for students with IEPs who spend the majority of the time in gen ed. They do this when they deem it necessary. It is often more appropriate for a student to be in a self-contained class than to have a 1:1 in aide in a gen ed setting, however.

They’d be much more likely to say that Gen Ed isn’t working and kid needs to spend more time in self contained.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

It doesn't matter what LCPS doesn't want to facilitate, it's not optional if you set if up correctly legally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if the IeP requires it the school must provide, but the school will re-evaluate a child who has high functioning autism and whose IEP says they need a 1:1 aid. And once the re-eval is in, the new IEP won’t require the 1:1. In general it’s a crappy system but in this case it seems ok because does your child with high functioning autism need 1:1? If so, that’s not high functioning.

Virginia is a parent consent state. Once a 1:1 is written into an IEP, the school can only re-evaluate and remove it if the parent consents by signing the new IEP. Also, I have seen students with level one autism who require 1:1 support in the general education setting. If this parent does move to LCPS, they may want to consult with an attorney to understand their rights.

- special education attorney

There are no 1:1 aides in LCPS though. If her insurance can provide one , it’s possible LCPS will allow it but the county itself does not facilitate 1:1 support. So that might have to trigger an amendment to the IEP.

It doesn't matter what LCPS doesn't want to facilitate, it's not optional if you set if up correctly legally.

OP doesn't even live in Loudoun yet. Why would she knowingly embark on an uphill battle?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have seen 1:1 aides in LCPS for students with IEPs who spend the majority of the time in gen ed. They do this when they deem it necessary. It is often more appropriate for a student to be in a self-contained class than to have a 1:1 in aide in a gen ed setting, however.

They’d be much more likely to say that Gen Ed isn’t working and kid needs to spend more time in self contained.

Yes. I don’t know where these people claimed they have seen 1:1 in LCPS. I have had kids in Gen Ed who were diagnosed with schizophrenia and had hallucinations in class and one who scored “2 points” away from being declared ID and THEY weren’t even put in self contained, let alone given a 1:1 aide.

[Anonymous]

What county in Pennsylvania, OP? I can’t decide whether I want to move there because they give lots of services or don’t want to move there because they think a child with high functioning autism needs 1:1.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand the disagreement here. It is true that LCPS occasionally has 1:1 aides for students in general ed settings. This is very rare, and your child likely won’t qualify.