Anything that can be done for constant viral illnesses

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.


There is “building the immune system.” That’s why everyone was so sick the year we took our masks off! Our at least what two separate pediatricians told me, and I trust them. We were right to wear masks on the pandemic - this isn’t about that, and it’s fine if Op just needs a break from constant illness, but it’s not without impact if done long term.

And nearly every adult has had RSV, so I am not sure avoiding it is a realistic goal.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.


There is “building the immune system.” That’s why everyone was so sick the year we took our masks off! Our at least what two separate pediatricians told me, and I trust them. We were right to wear masks on the pandemic - this isn’t about that, and it’s fine if Op just needs a break from constant illness, but it’s not without impact if done long term.

And nearly every adult has had RSV, so I am not sure avoiding it is a realistic goal.


i can tell you didn't read either of the research articles i shared-- but goodluck with your not very knowledgeable pediatricians. and hate to break it to you- the pandemic didn't end. covid is impacting 1/20 in the area at the moment.
Anonymous
Mask in public places for now and teach good hand washing practices and to not touch their face or head. Masks help a lot! Also avoid any crowded places.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.


There is “building the immune system.” That’s why everyone was so sick the year we took our masks off! Our at least what two separate pediatricians told me, and I trust them. We were right to wear masks on the pandemic - this isn’t about that, and it’s fine if Op just needs a break from constant illness, but it’s not without impact if done long term.

And nearly every adult has had RSV, so I am not sure avoiding it is a realistic goal.

They said it was enterovirus because we had GI symptoms. Said there is no long term immunity.

We're sicker this year than the year after restrictions were lifted
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.


There is “building the immune system.” That’s why everyone was so sick the year we took our masks off! Our at least what two separate pediatricians told me, and I trust them. We were right to wear masks on the pandemic - this isn’t about that, and it’s fine if Op just needs a break from constant illness, but it’s not without impact if done long term.

And nearly every adult has had RSV, so I am not sure avoiding it is a realistic goal.


i can tell you didn't read either of the research articles i shared-- but goodluck with your not very knowledgeable pediatricians. and hate to break it to you- the pandemic didn't end. covid is impacting 1/20 in the area at the moment.

He was tested for covid, rsv and influenza, none of the 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you all take immunity boosters? They're just gummies/vitamins.

What do you recommend? If it even cuts back the illnesses or severity 20% it is worth it to us
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.

How do you keep your kid healthy? Are they in daycare or school?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would it be crazy town to wear a mask? Repeated viral infections seems way more crazy town to me.

My toddler has had one minor cold in 2 years as we mask and socialize outdoors ( outdoor story time, outdoor music class, playgrounds, soccer, etc). Airborne illness is real and masks help. She is great about keeping her mask on when inside. No need for a naturopath.

I might honestly try to mask everyone including the 2 year old. Aim for more outdoor activities vs indoors. :/



I'm the pp- my almost 2 yr old wears happy masks. Sometimes well before kn94

What mask do you use?


https://www.happygear.com/collections/ultra (reusable-- my kid prefers this as she's a drooler)

https://wellbefore.com/products/kids-petite-faces-kn95-3d-style-kf94-adjustable?srsltid=AfmBOoqwVVyTH9A1rFCaLsR7Tv6-qq-7HzlGox8hZJCY0jpXiRt-796z

Thanks, the ones with adjustable ears look promising
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would it be crazy town to wear a mask? Repeated viral infections seems way more crazy town to me.

My toddler has had one minor cold in 2 years as we mask and socialize outdoors ( outdoor story time, outdoor music class, playgrounds, soccer, etc). Airborne illness is real and masks help. She is great about keeping her mask on when inside. No need for a naturopath.

I might honestly try to mask everyone including the 2 year old. Aim for more outdoor activities vs indoors. :/



I'm the pp- my almost 2 yr old wears happy masks. Sometimes well before kn94

What mask do you use?


https://www.happygear.com/collections/ultra (reusable-- my kid prefers this as she's a drooler)

https://wellbefore.com/products/kids-petite-faces-kn95-3d-style-kf94-adjustable?srsltid=AfmBOoqwVVyTH9A1rFCaLsR7Tv6-qq-7HzlGox8hZJCY0jpXiRt-796z

Thanks, the ones with adjustable ears look promising


i think they both have adjustable ears
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.

How do you keep your kid healthy? Are they in daycare or school?


not yet-- which is how they stay healthy sadly. i wrote above-- we do social activities outdoors (outdoor music class,outdoor library time, nature forward, soccer) and then grandparents watch them while we we work. mine masks to go into my parents building.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.

How do you keep your kid healthy? Are they in daycare or school?


not yet-- which is how they stay healthy sadly. i wrote above-- we do social activities outdoors (outdoor music class,outdoor library time, nature forward, soccer) and then grandparents watch them while we we work. mine masks to go into my parents building.

Mine are not in care either so I am dismayed at how often we are sick, especially given it is summer. I'm starting to think alot of the kids at the library in the middle of the day were sent home from daycare so their parents take them to the library............
Anonymous
The responses here are so odd. OP—my children and all my friends’ children have gone through the same, and we’ve gone through the same thoughts. At times it was unbelievable the number of illnesses we’d get, and no amount of hand sanitizer helped (I was so careful and yet we got all the viruses). We finally seem to be better now with the kids at 5 yo and 2 yo, and after about 2 years of nonstop illness.

However, every time we needed a break from the illness for various reasons (newborn, upcoming trip, etc) what worked the best was limiting indoor activities. Nothing else seemed to make a dent. Not masking, not hygiene. So we don’t take the kids to the library or any of those indoor playgrounds still. We assume an indoor party means a guaranteed virus >> ear infection.

Based on speaking to my relatives from there does seem to be something about the number of people we interact with in a big city that leads to more illness.

I don’t think masking kids is helpful or the way I want them to interact with others unless for very specific circumstances (such as doctor waiting room if they are sick, etc.).

Anonymous
This is normal. On the plus side, they will have a bit of exposure that will help them adjust to daycare or preschool. They do need to build up their immune systems. While you can mitigate disease risk, you will never get rid of it entirely if you want your kids to participate in the world. So they’re going to have to get sick. Kids don’t need to go catch every bug, and thankfully we have vaccines for some of the really bad things. Many illnesses also thankfully provide long term immunity but some terrible things unfortunately do not.

So: handwashing, limit your indoor activities when you need a break, time. Unfortunately, that’s all you can do.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do you all take immunity boosters? They're just gummies/vitamins.

What do you recommend? If it even cuts back the illnesses or severity 20% it is worth it to us


Just find something at target
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with masking is it doesn’t build their immune systems. It protects while you’re wearing it but doesn’t teach the body to protect itself long term. So if you mask, don’t do it all the way until February.

The point isn’t to avoid an accurate asthma diagnosis, right? If he is asthmatic, you need to know and treat it.

Sleep is the best way to stay healthy. And yes, more outdoor stuff (no need to mask outdoors).

I don't really see the point in building their immune system if they aren't getting sick at all or much less. Anyways, it is less miserable for a elementary age kid to be sick than a toddler

As for the asthma, it seems the viral infections themselves are sensitizing


there is no such thing as "building their immune system" through repeated viral infections-- in fact pretty clear data about the opposite. getting RSV increases risk of asthma, getting hpv increases risk of cancer, getting EBV increases risk of diabetes, MS, celiac, etc... covid does the same. the goal isn't to avoid the label, the goal is to avoid the actual illness.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/is-the-hygiene-hypothesis-true

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avoiding-rsv-infancy-reduces-asthma-risk

my child has never had a sick visit in her life. I on the other hand had a virus that made me have chronic autoimmune stuff. would much rather keep my mask on and spend more time outdoors.

How do you keep your kid healthy? Are they in daycare or school?


not yet-- which is how they stay healthy sadly. i wrote above-- we do social activities outdoors (outdoor music class,outdoor library time, nature forward, soccer) and then grandparents watch them while we we work. mine masks to go into my parents building.

Mine are not in care either so I am dismayed at how often we are sick, especially given it is summer. I'm starting to think alot of the kids at the library in the middle of the day were sent home from daycare so their parents take them to the library............


I also notice so much coughing at the library.
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