Unexplained American death in Colombia

[Anonymous]

Colombia is notorious right now for men being drugged at bars/clubs by women and then taken back to their room where they are robbed of all their belongings. Often the criminal drug them too much and the person dies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

I see what you did there. And yet there's some truth in that men traveling to Colombia may need to exercise some of the same precautions women have taken for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colombia is notorious right now for men being drugged at bars/clubs by women and then taken back to their room where they are robbed of all their belongings. Often the criminal drug them too much and the person dies.

This has been going on for decades, "getting 'scoped" but no, they don't often die.

[Anonymous]

HE WASN’T MURDERED. He died from a PULMONARY EMBOLISM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

I see what you did there. And yet there's some truth in that men traveling to Colombia may need to exercise some of the same precautions women have taken for decades.

I wonder if "passport bros" and their ilk are going to give safety advice to men. Nah, they'll probably just whine that no one cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HE WASN’T MURDERED. He died from a PULMONARY EMBOLISM.

Why would the embassy not share the autopsy report?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HE WASN’T MURDERED. He died from a PULMONARY EMBOLISM.

Why would the embassy not share the autopsy report?

Have you ever worked with governments in Latin America? If you think the US can be disorganized…

I’ve also worked with Latin American governments to repatriate remains back to the United States. It’s a complete cluster f a good portion of the time.

I find nothing suspicious about this, but absolutely feel for the grieving mother. It’s a terrible thing to not be able to get answers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

I see what you did there. And yet there's some truth in that men traveling to Colombia may need to exercise some of the same precautions women have taken for decades.

I wonder if "passport bros" and their ilk are going to give safety advice to men. Nah, they'll probably just whine that no one cares.

Childless cat ladies are clearly not happy about American guys hooking up with Colombian babes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Embassy can't protect Americans who stupidly travel to third world crime cities and are then victims of crime. Being brutally murdered for an Ipad is a risk you take "vacationing" in Colombia. Its cheap for a reason.

Have you been? Was just in Medellin and was blown away by how beautiful, clean and safe it was. Colombia is not a 3rd world country, though it might have more brown people than you'd like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

I see what you did there. And yet there's some truth in that men traveling to Colombia may need to exercise some of the same precautions women have taken for decades.

I wonder if "passport bros" and their ilk are going to give safety advice to men. Nah, they'll probably just whine that no one cares.

Childless cat ladies are clearly not happy about American guys hooking up with Colombian babes!

Huh? What an odd response. It sounds like you don't want men to stay safe.

Anyway, if you want to insult me (which again, odd thing to do) you might want to step it up. You sound like one of those elders in 1988 who were calling people "hippies" as an insult.

[Anonymous]

Do you mean the victims willingly give money up until the time they're killed? I don't understand what you mean by this:

victims are compliant, so normal security precautions like password managers or 2 factor authentication are ineffective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

I see what you did there. And yet there's some truth in that men traveling to Colombia may need to exercise some of the same precautions women have taken for decades.

I wonder if "passport bros" and their ilk are going to give safety advice to men. Nah, they'll probably just whine that no one cares.

Childless cat ladies are clearly not happy about American guys hooking up with Colombian babes!

Huh? What an odd response. It sounds like you don't want men to stay safe.

Anyway, if you want to insult me (which again, odd thing to do) you might want to step it up. You sound like one of those elders in 1988 who were calling people "hippies" as an insult.

I think you meant 1968.

This sort of crime is not unusual, though ending in death is uncommon. Happened to another American tourist in Rio a couple weeks ago. Went to a club in Lapa (sketchy neighborhood) and met two "friendly"young women. Took them back to his Air BnB and they drugged him too much. He died. (They did arrest one of the women).

Guys - If you are in your 40s and you are in a developing country and 20-somethings start giiving you a lot of attention, remember two very important things.

1) You are not that rich; and,
2) You are not that hot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men get murdered all the time. No one cares.

I care. If a man feels like a place is unsafe he shouldn't go. Or he should stay in at night. He also may want to always travel in a group. He needs to watch his drink. He needs to ensure that his clothing or accessories aren't attracting unwanted attention. He needs to avoid buying drink for others or acting flashy with his cash. He needs to be suspicious of strange women. He probably shouldn't talk to strange women at all. Maybe he can also carry a whistle of some kind. He can make sure to yell "fire" while things are going south as that may attract more attention than just screaming.

I care, but men need to care about their own safety too!

I see what you did there. And yet there's some truth in that men traveling to Colombia may need to exercise some of the same precautions women have taken for decades.

I wonder if "passport bros" and their ilk are going to give safety advice to men. Nah, they'll probably just whine that no one cares.

Childless cat ladies are clearly not happy about American guys hooking up with Colombian babes!

Huh? What an odd response. It sounds like you don't want men to stay safe.

Anyway, if you want to insult me (which again, odd thing to do) you might want to step it up. You sound like one of those elders in 1988 who were calling people "hippies" as an insult.

I think you meant 1968.

This sort of crime is not unusual, though ending in death is uncommon. Happened to another American tourist in Rio a couple weeks ago. Went to a club in Lapa (sketchy neighborhood) and met two "friendly"young women. Took them back to his Air BnB and they drugged him too much. He died. (They did arrest one of the women).

Guys - If you are in your 40s and you are in a developing country and 20-somethings start giiving you a lot of attention, remember two very important things.

1) You are not that rich; and,
2) You are not that hot.

The security training you receive when posted at the US Embassy in Bogota is actually hilarious on stressing this point. Like, they touch on the women but the main examples are for men. "Guys, let's get real, you're a 2 in the US. You're fat, you're ugly, you earn a government salary. You didn't just become a 9 when you stepped off the plane. These women are NOT interested for good reasons, so stop thinking with your d*cks and get real about why you're receiving attention. Don't be like this fool who let some woman empty his entire apartment while drugged. "