middle school math question

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

“Only” having Calc AB is not going to prevent your kid from being a math major, if that’s what you’re wondering. We get quite a few kids who don’t have Calculus offered at their high school, and even if you do well there’s a ton of value in retaking your math and science APs in undergrad (and in some majors where Hubbard and Hubbard is taught you are forced to retake multivariate anyway).

Are you referring to a specific university?

If you direct students to retake Multivariable after taking it in high school, that's even more of a reason to take the class to prepare!
Students who come in within that preparation are going to be far behind their peers.

Not their DC peers. No high schools in DC even offer MV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

“Only” having Calc AB is not going to prevent your kid from being a math major, if that’s what you’re wondering. We get quite a few kids who don’t have Calculus offered at their high school, and even if you do well there’s a ton of value in retaking your math and science APs in undergrad (and in some majors where Hubbard and Hubbard is taught you are forced to retake multivariate anyway).

Are you referring to a specific university?

If you direct students to retake Multivariable after taking it in high school, that's even more of a reason to take the class to prepare!
Students who come in within that preparation are going to be far behind their peers.

Not their DC peers. No high schools in DC even offer MV.

That’s not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

“Only” having Calc AB is not going to prevent your kid from being a math major, if that’s what you’re wondering. We get quite a few kids who don’t have Calculus offered at their high school, and even if you do well there’s a ton of value in retaking your math and science APs in undergrad (and in some majors where Hubbard and Hubbard is taught you are forced to retake multivariate anyway).

Are you referring to a specific university?

If you direct students to retake Multivariable after taking it in high school, that's even more of a reason to take the class to prepare!
Students who come in within that preparation are going to be far behind their peers.

Not their DC peers. No high schools in DC even offer MV.

That’s not true.

Name the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

“Only” having Calc AB is not going to prevent your kid from being a math major, if that’s what you’re wondering. We get quite a few kids who don’t have Calculus offered at their high school, and even if you do well there’s a ton of value in retaking your math and science APs in undergrad (and in some majors where Hubbard and Hubbard is taught you are forced to retake multivariate anyway).

Are you referring to a specific university?

If you direct students to retake Multivariable after taking it in high school, that's even more of a reason to take the class to prepare!
Students who come in within that preparation are going to be far behind their peers.

Not their DC peers. No high schools in DC even offer MV.

That’s not true.

Name the school.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

It would be nice to have a list of the schools that offer Geometry by 8th -- Deal, BASIS, Hardy and Latin, and maybe Stuart Hobson. Any others?

Your kid will be fine. However I do think offering Geo in 8th is a good indicator for middle schools.

Yes for SH. They offer two tracks to get there.

Eliot Hine kids can take algebra in 7th or 8th, and geometry in 8th for those that took algebra in 7th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

It would be nice to have a list of the schools that offer Geometry by 8th -- Deal, BASIS, Hardy and Latin, and maybe Stuart Hobson. Any others?

Your kid will be fine. However I do think offering Geo in 8th is a good indicator for middle schools.

DCI offers algebra 1 for extremely high performing 7th graders except it’s called integrated math 1. Solid math performers can take algebra 1 in 8th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

“Only” having Calc AB is not going to prevent your kid from being a math major, if that’s what you’re wondering. We get quite a few kids who don’t have Calculus offered at their high school, and even if you do well there’s a ton of value in retaking your math and science APs in undergrad (and in some majors where Hubbard and Hubbard is taught you are forced to retake multivariate anyway).

Are you referring to a specific university?

If you direct students to retake Multivariable after taking it in high school, that's even more of a reason to take the class to prepare!
Students who come in within that preparation are going to be far behind their peers.

Bad habits taught in high school- and bad training- as a rule of thumb take three times as long to fix as starting fresh (thank you, Suzuki method). You’re better off reading something like “How to prove it” on your own. Most kids never actually read a textbook before college, classes are largely taught under that assumption, and proofs are mostly skimmed (you certainly don’t need proofs for the AP exams). If you don’t make kids retake, and you assumed classes covered foundational proof strategies, kids will fail (some schools used to let something like 60% of incoming engineering classes flame out, so it happened, and may still happen). For example, Epsilon delta proof- basically the step 1 of all college calc- is covered well after the test, if at all in high school. You can’t assume people have that in their pocket coming in, even though it’s covered in the first class of the math sequence in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

It would be nice to have a list of the schools that offer Geometry by 8th -- Deal, BASIS, Hardy and Latin, and maybe Stuart Hobson. Any others?

Your kid will be fine. However I do think offering Geo in 8th is a good indicator for middle schools.

Eliot-Hine offers geometry in 8th grade via Eastern HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

It would be nice to have a list of the schools that offer Geometry by 8th -- Deal, BASIS, Hardy and Latin, and maybe Stuart Hobson. Any others?

Your kid will be fine. However I do think offering Geo in 8th is a good indicator for middle schools.

Eliot-Hine offers geometry in 8th grade via Eastern HS

Eastern you say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The middle school our child has gotten into offers algebra in 8th grade. This seems to be standard with some other charters in the city and maybe DCPS with the exception of Deal and Basis (?).

My question is, for a child who is math-inclined and above grade level, is that sufficient to be ready for application high schools/generally a college track? We are not a high-pressure family that feels it's necessary for our kid to take 15 APs or whatever, but want them to be prepared if they choose to go into a STEM field in the future.

It would be nice to have a list of the schools that offer Geometry by 8th -- Deal, BASIS, Hardy and Latin, and maybe Stuart Hobson. Any others?

Your kid will be fine. However I do think offering Geo in 8th is a good indicator for middle schools.

Eliot-Hine offers geometry in 8th grade via Eastern HS

Eastern you say?

For this school year, the 8th grade geometry students will be doing a class joint with Eastern High School students at Eastern during the last period of classes on those days.