2024-2025 ECNL & GA U13 -U19 club fees

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

You vastly underestimate how motivated coaches are to attract players who will help them win games. It’s what keeps them employed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

You vastly underestimate how motivated coaches are to attract players who will help them win games. It’s what keeps them employed.

But coaches also need to get paid, which is what club dues go towards. Giving discounts based on quality of play is also just asking for dissension.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

You vastly underestimate how motivated coaches are to attract players who will help them win games. It’s what keeps them employed.

Not saying it doesn’t happen but it is all super shady at best and illegal at worst. These coaches should be called out and exposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

You vastly underestimate how motivated coaches are to attract players who will help them win games. It’s what keeps them employed.

But coaches also need to get paid, which is what club dues go towards. Giving discounts based on quality of play is also just asking for dissension.

Parents are incentivized not to dislose any discount. Coach pay and a number of discounted or free player slots are factored in when club fees are calculated. I don’t know what else to tell you.

[Anonymous]

This thread devolved into players getting discounts. I'm more interested in if the advertised rates are actually what the average person pays. Are there hidden fees?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The comments that the cost to play may vary from player to player makes some sense. How a club structures its fee structure is really up to how it chooses to build a team. If you are the next coming of Mallory Swanson, you probably don’t pay a thing, or even get some benefits above cost. That means every other player’s cost goes up marginally. If the club’s cost accounting structure is managed properly the worst players on a roster would potentially be paying the most. I suspect that roster size plays an oversized role in ensuring all costs are covered. I wonder how carefully club administrators plan this out.

Except that is not the way it works -- at least ont he girls side. I would never say never but most clubs will not give a discount for anyone except for financial reasons. It may happen outside the top clubs for other reasons but not on the top teams (ECNL, GA). Family issues, money, divorce, death -- sure but not becasue you are the next National Team Player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

On the girls side? I doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

You vastly underestimate how motivated coaches are to attract players who will help them win games. It’s what keeps them employed.

Not saying it doesn’t happen but it is all super shady at best and illegal at worst. These coaches should be called out and exposed.

Shady is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. No law are being broken. Just follow the incentives.

[Anonymous]

Your numbers aren't accurate for STJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your numbers aren't accurate for STJ

Comments like this are not very helpful. Could you ellaborate, is it more or less? by how much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The comments that the cost to play may vary from player to player makes some sense. How a club structures its fee structure is really up to how it chooses to build a team. If you are the next coming of Mallory Swanson, you probably don’t pay a thing, or even get some benefits above cost. That means every other player’s cost goes up marginally. If the club’s cost accounting structure is managed properly the worst players on a roster would potentially be paying the most. I suspect that roster size plays an oversized role in ensuring all costs are covered. I wonder how carefully club administrators plan this out.

Except that is not the way it works -- at least ont he girls side. I would never say never but most clubs will not give a discount for anyone except for financial reasons. It may happen outside the top clubs for other reasons but not on the top teams (ECNL, GA). Family issues, money, divorce, death -- sure but not becasue you are the next National Team Player.

I won’t claim to know how every clubs work, but the “top” club I have knowledge of comps fees for a handful of players. I know at least a few others do as well. It is not solely predicated on the kid being so damn good that they don’t have to pay. It may be that, but ultimately it is about attracting or keeping a player/family in the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread devolved into players getting discounts. I'm more interested in if the advertised rates are actually what the average person pays. Are there hidden fees?

I mean the "hidden" fees are mostly all the travel which can vary greatly depending on amount of hotel stays/flights. Those can easily dwarf the team/club fees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your numbers aren't accurate for STJ

Comments like this are not very helpful. Could you ellaborate, is it more or less? by how much?

Why does it matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

Is this the reason why a salesman can be now a coach making 6 figures?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:False info. No player is that good that a club will forego the club fee. Maybe you are confused by players who received scholarships and or financial aids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s where we are on 2024-2025 ECNL & GA club fees for U13 -U19. Ages younger than U13 will cost a little less.

VDA 4000 + travel expenses
FVU 3700 + travel expenses
VRSC 3500 + travel expenses
NVA 3000 + team fees & travel exp
TSJFC 3000 + travel expenses

Who am I missing?

yeah that's not what i'm paying

For education what club and what are the actual fees?

not pp but these are retail prices. top players are often recruited a reduced price point.

No they are not in ECNL clubs.

I know some that don’t pay a dime…just sayin.

This 100% happens

If it happens, I'd think it'd be extremely rare. Bottom line is most NOVA parents don't blink over $3000-$4000.

Is this the reason why a salesman can be now a coach making 6 figures?

because he is a harder worker than someone like you?