Why don’t the W schools have special programs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Why should the poor kids have to sit on a bus for an hour to go to a special program?

(One answer: side door to free childcare)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those programs are typically placed in less desirable schools to increase appeal. The Ws don’t need that.

It's also to create a "center" to fill a cohort from several high schools with few qualified students in each. The W schools already have full cohorts from their in boundary students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Why should the poor kids have to sit on a bus for an hour to go to a special program?

(One answer: side door to free childcare)

Why assume they’re poor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the idea is that they're already well provided for because of the PTA and generally families are more well off.

If you consider BCC a W school, it has the IB program

We don't.

BCC is a W school: wealthy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the idea is that they're already well provided for because of the PTA and generally families are more well off.

If you consider BCC a W school, it has the IB program

We don't.

BCC is a W school: wealthy

There's certainly wealth at BCC, but the school's FARMS rate is 22.5%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Most W parents are not interested in having their students attend school with students from "less funded" areas. The W school students already have greater opportunity; why would they want the "same" opportunity. Their parents belong to income brackets that buy them the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

There aren’t seats. The use the magnets to pull kids into schools that are otherwise undersubscribed like RM. there was some talk about making the new Woodward High a magnet but they didn’t want to put the money into it to make it happen. If they pulled out of neighborhood kids into a school like WJ, they couldn’t fit the neighborhood kids (which already are overflowing the school).

The "poor" schools with programs are also overcrowded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Most W parents are not interested in having their students attend school with students from "less funded" areas. The W school students already have greater opportunity; why would they want the "same" opportunity. Their parents belong to income brackets that buy them the best.

That's irrelevant because local parents don't choose where the magnet programs are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Most W parents are not interested in having their students attend school with students from "less funded" areas. The W school students already have greater opportunity; why would they want the "same" opportunity. Their parents belong to income brackets that buy them the best.

That's irrelevant because local parents don't choose where the magnet programs are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Most W parents are not interested in having their students attend school with students from "less funded" areas. The W school students already have greater opportunity; why would they want the "same" opportunity. Their parents belong to income brackets that buy them the best.

That's irrelevant because local parents don't choose where the magnet programs are.

They sort of do indirectly since the programs are put in areas that are deemed undesirable otherwise in attempt to lure those W families in. Considering the W parents vote with their dollars on which areas are desirable and the programs are tailored towards their competitiveness. While not dictating per-say, the decisions are very much made with them in mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Most W parents are not interested in having their students attend school with students from "less funded" areas. The W school students already have greater opportunity; why would they want the "same" opportunity. Their parents belong to income brackets that buy them the best.

That's irrelevant because local parents don't choose where the magnet programs are.

They sort of do indirectly since the programs are put in areas that are deemed undesirable otherwise in attempt to lure those W families in. Considering the W parents vote with their dollars on which areas are desirable and the programs are tailored towards their competitiveness. While not dictating per-say, the decisions are very much made with them in mind.

You're tying yourself up in knots.
Per se.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

This, OP. Our magnet programs were MCPS' (locally-controlled, rather than court-ordered) answer to Brown v. BOE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the “special programs” are used to pull kids from the rich (W schools) into the less funded schools. They are the last vestiges of integration and busing programs, made attractive.

So why can’t the W schools be used to attract kids from the “less funded” schools? Shouldn’t all MCPS students be offered the same opportunities?

Starting this fall, this will be the case with Whitman's new program, Leadership Academy for Social Justice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t the W schools have magnet programs, immersion, or other specialty programs like other schools in the county?

Potomac ES has the Chinese immersion magnet, which is functionally set aside for their use only.

Chevy Chase ES and Cold Spring ES have elementary school magnets.

Westland MS has the Spanish immersion magnet at the MS level and the IB MYP, and Hoover has Chinese immersion at the MS level.

Whitman has the application-based social justice program, and all of the other W high schools have "signature programs."

I wonder if B-CC will open up its cultural studies program as a countywide application program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t the W schools have magnet programs, immersion, or other specialty programs like other schools in the county?

Potomac ES has the Chinese immersion magnet, which is functionally set aside for their use only.

Chevy Chase ES and Cold Spring ES have elementary school magnets.

Westland MS has the Spanish immersion magnet at the MS level and the IB MYP, and Hoover has Chinese immersion at the MS level.

Whitman has the application-based social justice program, and all of the other W high schools have "signature programs."

I wonder if B-CC will open up its cultural studies program as a countywide application program.

But BCC isn't a W school waaaah