Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump

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How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

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Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.

You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.

Biden is not in the driver's seat. He was set up with the early debate and was too far gone mentally to see the trap. The Dems driving the move to replace him know what they want; a nominee that is not Biden, not Harris.

Stop with the conspiracy theories. Biden wanted, and still ostensibly wants, a second term. His family is for the moment very supportive of that. A LOT of Democrat lawmakers and big donors did NOT want Biden for a second term, but it's really hard to tell a sitting President that they shouldn't run again, when a lot of previous Presidents have done so. Even now, only a very few D congresspeople have gone there.

This is all on Biden. He has to relent. Influential Democrats were giving him plenty of space to come to that realization on his own, but if he doesn't change his mind, there's going to be pressure applied from the donors, lawmakers, polls and the media. We'll see how it goes.

It was easier to humiliate him in a debate; then the discussion occurs in the open rather than in private. Public opinion provides the pressure that private conversations cannot.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

Obama triggered the racists who used the anger, paired with oligarchs to transform the GOP into the frankenstein that it is today.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

Twelve years ago. But yeah, seems like yesterday.

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Well let's wait "For the passage of time". hahahaha

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Is this the swing states? Otherwise who cares.

It's a national poll.

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Anonymous wrote:Well let's wait "For the passage of time". hahahaha

Nope. Harris will win this election. First female President.

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Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.

You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.

Biden is not in the driver's seat. He was set up with the early debate and was too far gone mentally to see the trap. The Dems driving the move to replace him know what they want; a nominee that is not Biden, not Harris.

Stop with the conspiracy theories. Biden wanted, and still ostensibly wants, a second term. His family is for the moment very supportive of that. A LOT of Democrat lawmakers and big donors did NOT want Biden for a second term, but it's really hard to tell a sitting President that they shouldn't run again, when a lot of previous Presidents have done so. Even now, only a very few D congresspeople have gone there.

This is all on Biden. He has to relent. Influential Democrats were giving him plenty of space to come to that realization on his own, but if he doesn't change his mind, there's going to be pressure applied from the donors, lawmakers, polls and the media. We'll see how it goes.

The conspiracy was senior Democrats, including Harris herself, who full well knew Biden's cognitive decline and who lied and gaslighted the American public and even much of the Democratic party about it. The same politicians, newspapers and news stations calling for Biden to withdraw are the same newspapers and stations who just a week ago were reassuring everyone that the clips of Biden in Europe were deepfakes. That's gaslighting. That's lying. That's a conspiracy.

Harris has the most name recognition of the Democrats right now as an alternative to Biden. Despite her mediocrity, the black voters will be extremely loyal to her and they are a powerful force within the Democratic Party and the party can't afford to alienate her no matter how abysmal Harris is. But it's early days. No one really knows what is happening next. I still think Biden will be the name on the ballot because ultimately it's his decision or not, and he's a stubborn old fool surrounded by a family eager to keep him in office and that's that.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

How can a voter say her favorite candidate would be Michelle Obama, but since she’s not an option, she’ll vote for Trump??? Undecided voter, couple of days ago in WaPo.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.

You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.

Biden is not in the driver's seat. He was set up with the early debate and was too far gone mentally to see the trap. The Dems driving the move to replace him know what they want; a nominee that is not Biden, not Harris.

Stop with the conspiracy theories. Biden wanted, and still ostensibly wants, a second term. His family is for the moment very supportive of that. A LOT of Democrat lawmakers and big donors did NOT want Biden for a second term, but it's really hard to tell a sitting President that they shouldn't run again, when a lot of previous Presidents have done so. Even now, only a very few D congresspeople have gone there.

This is all on Biden. He has to relent. Influential Democrats were giving him plenty of space to come to that realization on his own, but if he doesn't change his mind, there's going to be pressure applied from the donors, lawmakers, polls and the media. We'll see how it goes.

The conspiracy was senior Democrats, including Harris herself, who full well knew Biden's cognitive decline and who lied and gaslighted the American public and even much of the Democratic party about it. The same politicians, newspapers and news stations calling for Biden to withdraw are the same newspapers and stations who just a week ago were reassuring everyone that the clips of Biden in Europe were deepfakes. That's gaslighting. That's lying. That's a conspiracy.

Harris has the most name recognition of the Democrats right now as an alternative to Biden. Despite her mediocrity, the black voters will be extremely loyal to her and they are a powerful force within the Democratic Party and the party can't afford to alienate her no matter how abysmal Harris is. But it's early days. No one really knows what is happening next. I still think Biden will be the name on the ballot because ultimately it's his decision or not, and he's a stubborn old fool surrounded by a family eager to keep him in office and that's that.

Biden will not step down because he is too old and confused to make decisions for himself at this point. Harris has absolutely no chance of winning against Trump. Democrats need to stop listening to pretentious UMC college voters in costal areas. Pick someone that can actually win PA, GA or suffer a repeat of 2016. Hillary couldn't win the swing states and Kamala won't either.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

Funny the tricks the memory plays.

In 2012 the election results were 51.1% versus 47.2%. That was not "overwhelmingly" if we use, for example, Reagan's 59% landslide in 1984 as overwhelming.

It is perfectly feasible to be opposed to Obama without being "racist" however you define the term. He wasn't that impressive as a president, was aloof, and his administration was not particularly progressive on the financial front, firmly siding with the establishment classes and screwing over the working classes with massive bailouts of the rich following 2008.

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Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

How can a voter say her favorite candidate would be Michelle Obama, but since she’s not an option, she’ll vote for Trump??? Undecided voter, couple of days ago in WaPo.

I would vote for Michelle Obama and I am also voting for Trump.

Biden is just not competent. We look weak to the rest of the world. Kamala is awful

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Anonymous wrote:Well let's wait "For the passage of time". hahahaha

Nope. Harris will win this election. First female President.

Harris wasn’t even top 3 in the primary. She’s a poor campaigner and politician.

Warren was smeared by Biden and Trumps campaigns in 2020 . Elizabeth Warren would’ve made an awesome President

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Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this country overwhelmingly reelect Barack Obama less than EIGHT YEARS AGO? What has happened to us?

Funny the tricks the memory plays.

In 2012 the election results were 51.1% versus 47.2%. That was not "overwhelmingly" if we use, for example, Reagan's 59% landslide in 1984 as overwhelming.

It is perfectly feasible to be opposed to Obama without being "racist" however you define the term. He wasn't that impressive as a president, was aloof, and his administration was not particularly progressive on the financial front, firmly siding with the establishment classes and screwing over the working classes with massive bailouts of the rich following 2008.

DP. It is feasible, yes, and I can believe that of you. But for everyone else, when McConnell remade the R party into the Party of No, the last minute turnabout in the vote on Obamacare after so much (apparently bad-faith) negotiation, etc. That wasn't because he was a D. It was for a lower reason.

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Kamala is more embarrassing than Trump - and I think the only poll that has Harris winning is the one she answered for herself.