Ashburn data centers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are on our own and will suffer the consequences of air pollution from the tens of thousands of desiel generators needed for all of the data centers.

Those are backup generators if the power fails. They're generally fired up once a month for about 10 minutes for routine testing and that's it.

And when the electricity grid does not have capacity. Which will be very frequent because it’s going to be almost impossible for the utility providers to increase the electricity production to meet this level of demand. The pollution will be horrendous if there is a major outage. It will be worse than the smog Beijing used to have with PMI 2.5 levels in the 200+ range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, datacenters use power, but the power goes to cloud computing applications like Zoom and Google that enable people to work from home instead of driving to work.

Alright that does not negate the pollution issues from data centers in NoVA. The pollution created by electricity generation for them and the on-site generators greatly exceeds the reductions from elope working at home. The net effect is increased pollution for people living in NOVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Data centers are great tax generators with less wear and tear than other uses.

They certainly don't complain about airplane noise or public bathrooms in parks.

Alright that is nice, but the amount of additional electricity that is needed for all of the approved, but not yet built data centers in Northern Virginia alone is equal to multiple Nuclear Power plants. Data centers consumed 21% of of Dominion energy’s electricity supply in 2022 and 24% in 2023. It will be well over a quarter this year. NOVEC is projecting 12% annual load growth for electricity consumption through the next 15 years and this is almost entirely due to data centers (5x electricity load needed by 2040). PWC. Approved the digital gateway and this project alone will require around 3 Gigawatts, which is equal to the electricity output of around 1.5x of the nuclear power plant at lake Anna. This is completely unsustainable and Northern Virginia cannot keep on approving them at this point. SCOTUS also killed Chevron deference so the EPA will be of minimal help to effectively regulate pollution going forward. We are on our own and will suffer the consequences of air pollution from the tens of thousands of desiel generators needed for all of the data centers.

The datacenters can't economically produce electricity using on-site deisel generators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Data centers are great tax generators with less wear and tear than other uses.

They certainly don't complain about airplane noise or public bathrooms in parks.

Alright that is nice, but the amount of additional electricity that is needed for all of the approved, but not yet built data centers in Northern Virginia alone is equal to multiple Nuclear Power plants. Data centers consumed 21% of of Dominion energy’s electricity supply in 2022 and 24% in 2023. It will be well over a quarter this year. NOVEC is projecting 12% annual load growth for electricity consumption through the next 15 years and this is almost entirely due to data centers (5x electricity load needed by 2040). PWC. Approved the digital gateway and this project alone will require around 3 Gigawatts, which is equal to the electricity output of around 1.5x of the nuclear power plant at lake Anna. This is completely unsustainable and Northern Virginia cannot keep on approving them at this point. SCOTUS also killed Chevron deference so the EPA will be of minimal help to effectively regulate pollution going forward. We are on our own and will suffer the consequences of air pollution from the tens of thousands of desiel generators needed for all of the data centers.

The datacenters can't economically produce electricity using on-site deisel generators.

There are periods where the grid can’t handle the electricity demand and they don’t have a choice whether to use them or not. They lose even more money if there is an interruption to their customers services.

[Anonymous]

Micro nuclear reactors are the future in powering data centers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Micro nuclear reactors are the future in powering data centers.

Show me one that is currently operating in the US and providing power??? You are seriously suggesting to have a micro nuclear reactor for each data center?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Micro nuclear reactors are the future in powering data centers.

Show me one that is currently operating in the US and providing power??? You are seriously suggesting to have a micro nuclear reactor for each data center?

https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/next-gen-data-centers/welcome-to-the-era-of-the-nuclear-powered-data-center

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Micro nuclear reactors are the future in powering data centers.

Show me one that is currently operating in the US and providing power??? You are seriously suggesting to have a micro nuclear reactor for each data center?

Are you suggesting that we can't add capacity to the grid?

[Anonymous]

Data center land is so valuable, I would expect more where that came from. They are literally going to tear down other perfectly good office buildings to build more data centers here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're proposing to build one in the Sully District, did you hear? I'm against it and plan on letting the Board know at the next meeting.

Sully is in Fairfax, not Prince William

Ashburn isn't in Prince William either.

[Anonymous]

What are the drawbacks to having a data center in your town?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Micro nuclear reactors are the future in powering data centers.

Show me one that is currently operating in the US and providing power??? You are seriously suggesting to have a micro nuclear reactor for each data center?

https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/next-gen-data-centers/welcome-to-the-era-of-the-nuclear-powered-data-center

Not a Single one is operating yet. This is a data center propaganda website

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the drawbacks to having a data center in your town?

Air pollution, noise pollution, high voltage power lines crossing over the entire city everywhere, heavy industrial traffic during the construction period, increasing impervious surfaces which creates water quality issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Micro nuclear reactors are the future in powering data centers.

Show me one that is currently operating in the US and providing power??? You are seriously suggesting to have a micro nuclear reactor for each data center?

Are you suggesting that we can't add capacity to the grid?

It is neither desirable nor beneficial for NOVEC to increase grid capacity by 5x over the next 15 years. The capital outlays to expand the grid will be passed onto all ratepayers including residential electricity consumers. They will need to construct hundreds to thousands of miles of new high voltage power lines that will require eminent domain along with destruction of many peoples homes and businesses. Dominion energy is already planning on building a high voltage power line to connect to a coal power plant (in WV) due to data center electricity demand in Loudon. This argument that they will completely rely on nuclear is BS. Dominion energy is already using more coal powered electricity and pausing plans to decommission coal power plants.