If you are a high-resource family - what tips do you have for maximizing success in HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS parent who went to a big three but can’t afford that for my own kids

Didn't ask.

[Anonymous]

Both low and high resource kids need to respect your teacher and kids/families need to not act like little shts when the expert doles out consequences to teach effectively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have high resources, send your kid to private school.

This.

Signed,

MCPS parent who went to a big three but can’t afford that for my own kids

Do you feel like your own Big3 experience was worth it then? What was the benefit and ultimate impact?

I mean that as an honest question.

Yes, it was worth it. I'm an attorney. Dual feds. 50k per year for high school tuition isn't in the cards for us, but I still feel like I am a reasonably successful person.

My kids seem to be getting good STEM educations, but they are not learning how to write anything other than AP exam essays. My youngest just finished eleventh grade. He has taken the highest level English classes available to him - all honors and AP. He has taken several AP history/government classes. Yet he had yet to write a single paper until June of this year. Their AP English teacher had them write a five or six page research paper after the AP exam was done. He had no clue how to go about doing so. He insisted it was getting along fine so I didn't helicopter. He got a C. Explained after the fact he just didn't understand how to write something longer than a page or two. My older kid is at a Catholic college with a bunch of kids who went to Catholic high schools. Did very poorly in freshman English.

No way would I put up with MCPS high school if I could afford private for them. Well, if I'd known how I'd feel, maybe I would have sacrificed home equity/college/retirement savings for private high school. Now it's too late. But if you have plenty of money? Private is no brainer.

I could have written your post. Literally every single thing you just said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of it is actually free or low cost.

Have your child build relationships with their teachers. If they have any accommodations, they should send an email as soon as they have their schedule. My kids always start a class with a hello and thank the teacher as they leave the room. Participate in class discussions. This is how you stand out and stay engaged in a large class. In addition, every teacher my kids had offered help sessions during advisory or lunch. Some even after school. Take advantage.

Work on study skills and organization. Some schools offer a course on this if your child has a disability. For kids without, MC had a great summer course years ago. Alternatively, if your child works well with you, teach these skills yourself. The shortcoming of MCPS is these skills are not explicitly taught to most kids.

Teach your child to self-advocate. They should be comfortable reaching out to teachers and counselors if they hit a bump in the road.

Hire a tutor at the first sign of struggle. We had the best luck with MCPS teachers who tutor on the side since they know the curriculum.

Emphasize to your child to check online for assignments and missing work daily.

I think this person is closest to correct—being a helpful engaged student in the class is probably most important. In my experience, the college counselor stuff is a racket and will just mold your child into a very obvious packaged product. Here’s some of the things we spent money on that were useful and successful—
— technology. We got my kid a good laptop and an iPad. They could take notes on their iPad which they could color code and save in OCR format so they were searchable and impossible to lose. Good laptop was key for tech courses—you literally can’t do some of the advanced coursework on the McPS chromebooks.
— supporting extracurriculars. For instance, we hired a personal coach for their sport (which actually almost everyone in their position does). Kid was not a recruited athlete but this did make it possible for them to play the whole four years as a varsity athlete. Kid also had a club they were very involved in — club couldn’t get it together to go to a particular competition, so we just paid to send kid on their own. Another year, when my kid was running the club, we fronted the money for the club to participate in a big competition and individual kids paid us back for their part—running the expense through MCPS was incredible bureaucracy and this allowed the club to participate and saved our kid countless hours trying to manage the McPS bureaucracy.

We also did little things like just ordered extra copies of books for home use, where that would be helpful.

Did the school let them use an iPad in class? I see all these complaints about phones so was curious. Also, is it safe to carry this around or will it get them mugged?

[Anonymous]

You are rich. Pay for tutors and a nanny to drive the kid and monitor them doing their work. Done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tutors? Computers of a certain type? Software? Organization / planning hacks?

What can I do do help my child succeed and thrive in high school? I am concerned about huge class sizes and limited personal attention. Since we are not paying for private, I am happy to help DC out as much as I can in other ways.

TIA!

If you are a high resource family, pay for private. Tutoring, worksheets, nothing replaces daily, hourly reinforcement of higher standards of learning and cohort (and teachers) who believe in the inherent value of a good education. You will not find that in mcps.

This. I will add it’s kind of unfair to ask your kid to go to their full-time job (public HS) then insist that they pick up an additional part time job after the main workday is over (tutors, pay-to-play ECs just for show, bullshit nonprofits etc)

That second, part time job is deeply minimized — and lasts for fewer months, let alone years — when you send the kid to a top private HS.

It’s not too late OP

This is what I am struggling with as a public school parent when people say "just do enrichment / supplement" - they are already in school all day and I wish they were getting more out of that time instead of adding onto their schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have high resources, send your kid to private school.

This.

Signed,

MCPS parent who went to a big three but can’t afford that for my own kids

Do you feel like your own Big3 experience was worth it then? What was the benefit and ultimate impact?

I mean that as an honest question.

Yes, it was worth it. I'm an attorney. Dual feds. 50k per year for high school tuition isn't in the cards for us, but I still feel like I am a reasonably successful person.

My kids seem to be getting good STEM educations, but they are not learning how to write anything other than AP exam essays. My youngest just finished eleventh grade. He has taken the highest level English classes available to him - all honors and AP. He has taken several AP history/government classes. Yet he had yet to write a single paper until June of this year. Their AP English teacher had them write a five or six page research paper after the AP exam was done. He had no clue how to go about doing so. He insisted it was getting along fine so I didn't helicopter. He got a C. Explained after the fact he just didn't understand how to write something longer than a page or two. My older kid is at a Catholic college with a bunch of kids who went to Catholic high schools. Did very poorly in freshman English.

No way would I put up with MCPS high school if I could afford private for them. Well, if I'd known how I'd feel, maybe I would have sacrificed home equity/college/retirement savings for private high school. Now it's too late. But if you have plenty of money? Private is no brainer.

The fact that your son received a C and not an A makes me think that the teacher had expectations that your son didn’t meet, but that others did. So I don’t think this is so much a public vs private issue as much as a case of your son lacking awareness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of it is actually free or low cost.

Have your child build relationships with their teachers. If they have any accommodations, they should send an email as soon as they have their schedule. My kids always start a class with a hello and thank the teacher as they leave the room. Participate in class discussions. This is how you stand out and stay engaged in a large class. In addition, every teacher my kids had offered help sessions during advisory or lunch. Some even after school. Take advantage.

Work on study skills and organization. Some schools offer a course on this if your child has a disability. For kids without, MC had a great summer course years ago. Alternatively, if your child works well with you, teach these skills yourself. The shortcoming of MCPS is these skills are not explicitly taught to most kids.

Teach your child to self-advocate. They should be comfortable reaching out to teachers and counselors if they hit a bump in the road.

Hire a tutor at the first sign of struggle. We had the best luck with MCPS teachers who tutor on the side since they know the curriculum.

Emphasize to your child to check online for assignments and missing work daily.

I think this person is closest to correct—being a helpful engaged student in the class is probably most important. In my experience, the college counselor stuff is a racket and will just mold your child into a very obvious packaged product. Here’s some of the things we spent money on that were useful and successful—
— technology. We got my kid a good laptop and an iPad. They could take notes on their iPad which they could color code and save in OCR format so they were searchable and impossible to lose. Good laptop was key for tech courses—you literally can’t do some of the advanced coursework on the McPS chromebooks.
— supporting extracurriculars. For instance, we hired a personal coach for their sport (which actually almost everyone in their position does). Kid was not a recruited athlete but this did make it possible for them to play the whole four years as a varsity athlete. Kid also had a club they were very involved in — club couldn’t get it together to go to a particular competition, so we just paid to send kid on their own. Another year, when my kid was running the club, we fronted the money for the club to participate in a big competition and individual kids paid us back for their part—running the expense through MCPS was incredible bureaucracy and this allowed the club to participate and saved our kid countless hours trying to manage the McPS bureaucracy.

We also did little things like just ordered extra copies of books for home use, where that would be helpful.

Did the school let them use an iPad in class? I see all these complaints about phones so was curious. Also, is it safe to carry this around or will it get them mugged?

I would think any electronics would be confiscated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have high resources, send your kid to private school.

This.

Signed,

MCPS parent who went to a big three but can’t afford that for my own kids

Do you feel like your own Big3 experience was worth it then? What was the benefit and ultimate impact?

I mean that as an honest question.

Yes, it was worth it. I'm an attorney. Dual feds. 50k per year for high school tuition isn't in the cards for us, but I still feel like I am a reasonably successful person.

My kids seem to be getting good STEM educations, but they are not learning how to write anything other than AP exam essays. My youngest just finished eleventh grade. He has taken the highest level English classes available to him - all honors and AP. He has taken several AP history/government classes. Yet he had yet to write a single paper until June of this year. Their AP English teacher had them write a five or six page research paper after the AP exam was done. He had no clue how to go about doing so. He insisted it was getting along fine so I didn't helicopter. He got a C. Explained after the fact he just didn't understand how to write something longer than a page or two. My older kid is at a Catholic college with a bunch of kids who went to Catholic high schools. Did very poorly in freshman English.

No way would I put up with MCPS high school if I could afford private for them. Well, if I'd known how I'd feel, maybe I would have sacrificed home equity/college/retirement savings for private high school. Now it's too late. But if you have plenty of money? Private is no brainer.

The fact that your son received a C and not an A makes me think that the teacher had expectations that your son didn’t meet, but that others did. So I don’t think this is so much a public vs private issue as much as a case of your son lacking awareness.

I would interpret it more broadly. Sure the particular students may have had an issue but there is a more systemic problem in MCPS with writing instruction. Class sizes are too high for teachers to provide enough constructive feedback during the writing process.

[Anonymous]

Is this what we are calling it now? “High resource “? lol

[Anonymous]

1. Specialized tutors who are not just slumming it on Wyzant. A good place to go instead is Princeton Review, many of their tutors are teaching the same subject at colleges as professors, or at high achieving private schools around the country.

2. Specialized coaches for sports and / or music training.

3. Interesting summer activities, that combine international travel, academics and volunteering (or a variation between these)

4. ECs that not everyone else is doing, so learning an unusual FL outside of school or committing to an activity.

[Anonymous]

Awwww, I see someone got sensitive and removed all of the posts referencing private school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have high resources, send your kid to private school.

This.

Signed,

MCPS parent who went to a big three but can’t afford that for my own kids

Do you feel like your own Big3 experience was worth it then? What was the benefit and ultimate impact?

I mean that as an honest question.

Yes, it was worth it. I'm an attorney. Dual feds. 50k per year for high school tuition isn't in the cards for us, but I still feel like I am a reasonably successful person.

My kids seem to be getting good STEM educations, but they are not learning how to write anything other than AP exam essays. My youngest just finished eleventh grade. He has taken the highest level English classes available to him - all honors and AP. He has taken several AP history/government classes. Yet he had yet to write a single paper until June of this year. Their AP English teacher had them write a five or six page research paper after the AP exam was done. He had no clue how to go about doing so. He insisted it was getting along fine so I didn't helicopter. He got a C. Explained after the fact he just didn't understand how to write something longer than a page or two. My older kid is at a Catholic college with a bunch of kids who went to Catholic high schools. Did very poorly in freshman English.

No way would I put up with MCPS high school if I could afford private for them. Well, if I'd known how I'd feel, maybe I would have sacrificed home equity/college/retirement savings for private high school. Now it's too late. But if you have plenty of money? Private is no brainer.

I could have written your post. Literally every single thing you just said.

Me too. My kid did IB English this year (11th grade), only had to read two books for class over the entire year. I don’t think he’s had to write a paper longer than 2 pages.

[Anonymous]

You can’t make a frog a prince

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, how are your child’s executive function skills? We hired an executive function tutor, and it has been really valuable to our child.

Hi - OP here. To be honest, I'm not familiar with this concept of executive function skills. What falls in this category?