GPA in private school

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.

if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.

They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.

You don’t happen to be in the market for a lovely bridge in Brooklyn, do you?

No, are you?

If colleges are using essays that mention race to get around the SCt decision, they can expect to be sued.

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There are many opportunities to identify the race of an applicant in the current process. How would you prove that admissions offices did not take this information into account when they have expressed a continued interest in curating a diverse community?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many opportunities to identify the race of an applicant in the current process. How would you prove that admissions offices did not take this information into account when they have expressed a continued interest in curating a diverse community?

How would you prove that admissions offices did take this information into account?!?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.

if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.

They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.

You don’t happen to be in the market for a lovely bridge in Brooklyn, do you?

No, are you?

If colleges are using essays that mention race to get around the SCt decision, they can expect to be sued.

There is no way to prove anything. They read a kid's essay about being black in America and suddenly they need a kid who took ceramics in 10th grade and has a name that beings with a B (and amazingly, that kid fits both categories!) There is zero way to prove they took the kid because he is black.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many opportunities to identify the race of an applicant in the current process. How would you prove that admissions offices did not take this information into account when they have expressed a continued interest in curating a diverse community?

How would you prove that admissions offices did take this information into account?!?

That would be up to you since you would be the one suing on those grounds.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.

if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.

They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.

You don’t happen to be in the market for a lovely bridge in Brooklyn, do you?

No, are you?

If colleges are using essays that mention race to get around the SCt decision, they can expect to be sued.

There is no way to prove anything. They read a kid's essay about being black in America and suddenly they need a kid who took ceramics in 10th grade and has a name that beings with a B (and amazingly, that kid fits both categories!) There is zero way to prove they took the kid because he is black.

Oh well…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.

if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.

They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.

It’s sad that no one believes you on this point. But I’m a lawyer and I don’t either.

[Anonymous]

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mmoommoo wrote:At a school like NCS, 3.3-3.4 is right around the median GPA. This is cut throat.
However, their eximission tells a different story, a large percentage of students went to top colleges.

If you know better, then don’t ask.

How people define “top colleges” vary widely. Many NCS girls have hooks. The only ones who are attending schools I’d consider “top” were either at the top of their class or hooked.

DP. Really? Just looked and more than 2/3 of the NCS class of 2024 are going to top 25 schools - both universities and liberal arts.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

Sounds like you may be new? Kids with 3.7 at top schools are getting into top 25 schools - lots of them. Get off of Scoir/Naviance and get your kid working on their application.

[Anonymous]

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mmoommoo wrote:At a school like NCS, 3.3-3.4 is right around the median GPA. This is cut throat.
However, their eximission tells a different story, a large percentage of students went to top colleges.

If you know better, then don’t ask.

How people define “top colleges” vary widely. Many NCS girls have hooks. The only ones who are attending schools I’d consider “top” were either at the top of their class or hooked.

2/3 of their class of 71 are going to top 25 pretty great results and the others - not a bad school on that list.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

Sounds like you may be new? Kids with 3.7 at top schools are getting into top 25 schools - lots of them. Get off of Scoir/Naviance and get your kid working on their application.

Not from NCS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.

if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.

They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.

You don’t happen to be in the market for a lovely bridge in Brooklyn, do you?

No, are you?

If colleges are using essays that mention race to get around the SCt decision, they can expect to be sued.

Sued for what? Doing exactly what the majority opinion said they could do--use essays to discuss race.

The vast majority of schools specifically rewrote their supplemental essays to talk about "background". You think race is out of the picture? Get real.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

Sounds like you may be new? Kids with 3.7 at top schools are getting into top 25 schools - lots of them. Get off of Scoir/Naviance and get your kid working on their application.

Not from NCS.

Yes they are. Look at Class of 2024 results. 2/3 of the class are going to top 25 schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

Sounds like you may be new? Kids with 3.7 at top schools are getting into top 25 schools - lots of them. Get off of Scoir/Naviance and get your kid working on their application.

Not from NCS.

Yes they are. I know of several in that range going to top 25 schools. For a fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.

TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.

The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.

A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.

A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.

The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.

These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.

Sounds like you may be new? Kids with 3.7 at top schools are getting into top 25 schools - lots of them. Get off of Scoir/Naviance and get your kid working on their application.

Anecdotally aware of this as well. The posters on this forum are loose in their application of the criteria designating top HSs.