Accelerated Math

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes MCPS is shifting a lot of kids there. It compresses grade 6,7 and 8 math into two years so students take Algebra in eighth grade. That’s one year above grade level and the advanced pathway in many other regions.. Only 1 out of 5 kids in MCPS are passing the Algebra state tests. It’s not a good idea to rush it and then your kid get poor grades in high school or has to repeat a class.

Isn't that required for HS graduation? Is it 1/5 overall or 1/5 9th graders (who are usually struggling in math)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

What was his score?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here-thank you for the input. Do all middle schools offer 6+?

Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

If he took 6+ in 6th, he should be in 7+ for 7th—is your school having him skip learning the 8th grade material and putting him straight in Algebra for 7th? That is surprising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

So much is a sham in largest school district in MD. For ex., a test esol students take to pass out of esol or whatever it's called. Bet if many students who are not in esol took the test, they couldn't pass it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

So much is a sham in largest school district in MD. For ex., a test esol students take to pass out of esol or whatever it's called. Bet if many students who are not in esol took the test, they couldn't pass it.

Your example is a hypothetical where you are guessing what the outcome would be. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

If he took 6+ in 6th, he should be in 7+ for 7th—is your school having him skip learning the 8th grade material and putting him straight in Algebra for 7th? That is surprising.

The kids with highest MAP-M scores and grades can be moved to algebra.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

If he took 6+ in 6th, he should be in 7+ for 7th—is your school having him skip learning the 8th grade material and putting him straight in Algebra for 7th? That is surprising.

6th, 7th, and 8th grade material is all just slow ramp up into Algebra and Geometry. Faster or more dedicated leaners use a shorter steeper ramp

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My oldest child in in geometry in 9th (he was in accelerated math in ES but the teacher recommended 6+ in 6th grade because of some learning issues. My current 6th grader is finishing AIM and we’ve made the decision to put him in 7+ next year after seeing too many of older DS’s friends struggling in Algebra this year. Your on level ES kid will have opportunities to get on a more advanced path in MS with 6+. Algebra in 8th used to be the advanced path in MCPS and it still is in most of the country. There’s no reason to push kids into a path that has them taking calculus in 11th grade unless they’re looking to get into very selective STEM programs in college.

News flash: kids are even taking the AP version of Calculus titled AP BC Calc in 10th grade. This IS Montgomery County Public Schools, formerly one of the best now just the largest school district in MD.

If you have an MCPS education, then yes I'm convinced its terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

If he took 6+ in 6th, he should be in 7+ for 7th—is your school having him skip learning the 8th grade material and putting him straight in Algebra for 7th? That is surprising.

6th, 7th, and 8th grade material is all just slow ramp up into Algebra and Geometry. Faster or more dedicated leaners use a shorter steeper ramp

Not allowed in MCPS typically, which is why I am interested in what school allows this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child just finished AIM after compacted math in ES. It moves so fast. I wish we had stuck with on-level math in ES and started the acceleration in middle school. My kid has now been accelerated two years -- just seems like a lot of foundational skills were missed. They skipped SO MANY Eureka units in ES, and the Curriculum 2.0 AIM course moves fast but also has subpar curricular materials. My kid is doing fine because we supplement outside of class (particularly over the summer, when my kid does Khan, which seems to help with the missing skills from the accereated path).

OP, your child can still be accelerated in MS. There is 6+ and 7+ in middle school -- that will get your child to Algebra 1 in 8th and still be able to get to Calculus in high school. In fact, based on MAP scores and district assessments, a substantial number of students who did compacted math in ES were put in 6+ this year in middle school regardless. I'll bet their parents wish they had stuck with on-grade level math.

+1. 6th grader just finishing AMP 7+ with Bs and occasional As. Clearly not a good placement because DC is merely hanging on (and has no interest anyway, just kind of plugs along without complaining but without really learning anything). We want to drop DC down and now have to figure out what class will contain willing students of the right ages and stages and not be anarchy (which is possible at our school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child just finished AIM after compacted math in ES. It moves so fast. I wish we had stuck with on-level math in ES and started the acceleration in middle school. My kid has now been accelerated two years -- just seems like a lot of foundational skills were missed. They skipped SO MANY Eureka units in ES, and the Curriculum 2.0 AIM course moves fast but also has subpar curricular materials. My kid is doing fine because we supplement outside of class (particularly over the summer, when my kid does Khan, which seems to help with the missing skills from the accereated path).

OP, your child can still be accelerated in MS. There is 6+ and 7+ in middle school -- that will get your child to Algebra 1 in 8th and still be able to get to Calculus in high school. In fact, based on MAP scores and district assessments, a substantial number of students who did compacted math in ES were put in 6+ this year in middle school regardless. I'll bet their parents wish they had stuck with on-grade level math.

+1. 6th grader just finishing AMP 7+ with Bs and occasional As. Clearly not a good placement because DC is merely hanging on (and has no interest anyway, just kind of plugs along without complaining but without really learning anything). We want to drop DC down and now have to figure out what class will contain willing students of the right ages and stages and not be anarchy (which is possible at our school).

Retake AMP 7+

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m feeling bummed my 3rd grader wasn’t selected for accelerated math. He’s more than capable but he didn’t meet all the metrics based on MAP scores (grades and district assessment were high) and the school won’t budge on the decision. I know this isn’t a huge deal but I do worry about him being in grade level and not having the opportunity to take more challenging classes in MS and high school since this basically locks you in on a certain path now. My DD is 9th and grade level because he has a math LD which is perfect for her but it does feel like a true separation from kids who are on a more accelerated track and you’re basically shut out of that at a young age. Anyone else feeling or has felt this way?

There are many opportunities. We unenrolled our son for fourth grade for health issues. He was slated for compacted math. When we re-enrolled him in December, they denied him compacted math because in his test, he lacked some earlier knowledge. He was just fine on more advanced concepts, though. The whole thing was a sham, since the students in compacted math would have scored the same…

He had regular math for 4th and 5th grades. When he went to middle school for 6th, they put him in advanced/AMP6+. Next year he will be in algebra for 7th grade.

If he took 6+ in 6th, he should be in 7+ for 7th—is your school having him skip learning the 8th grade material and putting him straight in Algebra for 7th? That is surprising.

6th, 7th, and 8th grade material is all just slow ramp up into Algebra and Geometry. Faster or more dedicated leaners use a shorter steeper ramp

Not allowed in MCPS typically, which is why I am interested in what school allows this.

Every school in MCPS has acceleration. See the whole content of this thread and the weekly similar threads.

[Anonymous]

If we haven’t heard anything by now, does that mean our DC was not selected? In 3rd grade and hoping to get into compact 4/5.