School district sued for their math placement policy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

Based on what state law?

A series of them, but can start with discrimination against URM students access to advanced math.

Equity minions are freaking out just by the thought of URM students in advanced math

Um, no. “Equity minions” are trying to get more URM kids into accelerated math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

You are against raising the bar?

The requirements for taking algebra 1 in 8th or 9th are reasonable, the requirements for taking it in 6th are not.

It is reasonable for a small fraction of the students to take it in 6th.

Several points here. First, the school should at least try to accommodate and meet the students where they are, within reason. Second, knowledge is knowledge, if the student takes a class elsewhere and passes the class standards they should be placed appropriately.

Equity politics necessitates certain students to firmly be in the lower gen ed and remedial classes, and great measures are taken to hide access to information about advanced acceleration options. Case in point: there is not a single document accessible to URM families to know about math acceleration options, such as algebra 1 in 6th grade, but plenty of neon signs and street fliers doing outreach about the availability of remedial math options.

Maybe your kid wasn’t identified as a Young Scholar?
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/young-scholars

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

Based on what state law?

A series of them, but can start with discrimination against URM students access to advanced math.

Again, what state law? It's conveniently all online

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/

What law do you think FCPS 6th grade math placement violates?

Current laws and policies are discriminatory. If they weren't, one would see many URMs in advanced math, not in gen ed and remedial.

The AAP equity report showed that URMs were being placed in AAP with significantly lower test scores than white and Asian kids. If anything, FCPS is bending over backward to try to find any URMs who might have the slightest chance of being successful in advanced classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

Based on what state law?

A series of them, but can start with discrimination against URM students access to advanced math.

Equity minions are freaking out just by the thought of URM students in advanced math

Um, no. “Equity minions” are trying to get more URM kids into accelerated math.

If you did, you would be advertising Algebra 1 in 6th grade among URMs, instead of criticizing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS parents are kept in the dark about math acceleration options such as Algebra1 in 6th grade, and lack of that awareness impacts URM families the most. Equity battalion wants to limit URM students to general ed and remedial classes.

Algebra1 at 6th grade needs recommendation for math teacher in 4th grade so that the student can take IAAT at 5th grade. It's only for the most advanced students. It is not healthy to advocating for Algebra1 in 6th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

Based on what state law?

A series of them, but can start with discrimination against URM students access to advanced math.

Again, what state law? It's conveniently all online

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/

What law do you think FCPS 6th grade math placement violates?

Current laws and policies are discriminatory. If they weren't, one would see many URMs in advanced math, not in gen ed and remedial.

The AAP equity report showed that URMs were being placed in AAP with significantly lower test scores than white and Asian kids. If anything, FCPS is bending over backward to try to find any URMs who might have the slightest chance of being successful in advanced classes.

That is the problem. By lowering the bar, FCPS is implying that URM students cannot get into advanced classes on their own merit. By creating a substandard entry point, now the URM students are being setup for failure. Instead if URM students and most importantly their parents were informed on the all advanced acceleration options, especially algbera 1 in 6th grade, and increase awareness of what it truly takes to get there, more URM families have a better chance of preparing their students for success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS parents are kept in the dark about math acceleration options such as Algebra1 in 6th grade, and lack of that awareness impacts URM families the most. Equity battalion wants to limit URM students to general ed and remedial classes.

Algebra1 at 6th grade needs recommendation for math teacher in 4th grade so that the student can take IAAT at 5th grade. It's only for the most advanced students. It is not healthy to advocating for Algebra1 in 6th grade.

That's how URM students are being suppressed. It is insulting and racist to tell students that advanced education is unhealthy, especially when students nationwide succeed in advanced math at a higher rate after enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

Based on what state law?

A series of them, but can start with discrimination against URM students access to advanced math.

Again, what state law? It's conveniently all online

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/

What law do you think FCPS 6th grade math placement violates?

Current laws and policies are discriminatory. If they weren't, one would see many URMs in advanced math, not in gen ed and remedial.

The AAP equity report showed that URMs were being placed in AAP with significantly lower test scores than white and Asian kids. If anything, FCPS is bending over backward to try to find any URMs who might have the slightest chance of being successful in advanced classes.

That is the problem. By lowering the bar, FCPS is implying that URM students cannot get into advanced classes on their own merit. By creating a substandard entry point, now the URM students are being setup for failure. Instead if URM students and most importantly their parents were informed on the all advanced acceleration options, especially algbera 1 in 6th grade, and increase awareness of what it truly takes to get there, more URM families have a better chance of preparing their students for success.

Things like Young Scholars is FCPS trying to get families dialed in on acceleration opportunities. FCPS does many things very poorly, but saying the purposefully hide 6th grade Algebra 1 from URMs is just absurd and you know it. They purposefully hide it from everyone so they don't have 11 year olds tanking their high school GPAs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

Based on what state law?

A series of them, but can start with discrimination against URM students access to advanced math.

Again, what state law? It's conveniently all online

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/

What law do you think FCPS 6th grade math placement violates?

Current laws and policies are discriminatory. If they weren't, one would see many URMs in advanced math, not in gen ed and remedial.

The AAP equity report showed that URMs were being placed in AAP with significantly lower test scores than white and Asian kids. If anything, FCPS is bending over backward to try to find any URMs who might have the slightest chance of being successful in advanced classes.

That is the problem. By lowering the bar, FCPS is implying that URM students cannot get into advanced classes on their own merit. By creating a substandard entry point, now the URM students are being setup for failure. Instead if URM students and most importantly their parents were informed on the all advanced acceleration options, especially algbera 1 in 6th grade, and increase awareness of what it truly takes to get there, more URM families have a better chance of preparing their students for success.

Things like Young Scholars is FCPS trying to get families dialed in on acceleration opportunities. FCPS does many things very poorly, but saying the purposefully hide 6th grade Algebra 1 from URMs is just absurd and you know it. They purposefully hide it from everyone so they don't have 11 year olds tanking their high school GPAs!

that's your made up BS. Every statistic out there proves there is 90%+ success after advanced enrollment is "allowed". Right here at, FCPS, LCPS, etc., students that enrolled in Algebra 2 in 8th grade, have a 98% success rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

You are against raising the bar?

The requirements for taking algebra 1 in 8th or 9th are reasonable, the requirements for taking it in 6th are not.

It is reasonable for a small fraction of the students to take it in 6th.

Several points here. First, the school should at least try to accommodate and meet the students where they are, within reason. Second, knowledge is knowledge, if the student takes a class elsewhere and passes the class standards they should be placed appropriately.

Equity politics necessitates certain students to firmly be in the lower gen ed and remedial classes, and great measures are taken to hide access to information about advanced acceleration options. Case in point: there is not a single document accessible to URM families to know about math acceleration options, such as algebra 1 in 6th grade, but plenty of neon signs and street fliers doing outreach about the availability of remedial math options.

Maybe your kid wasn’t identified as a Young Scholar?
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/young-scholars

Young Scholars is a show-off program that highlights a few students who would have performed at that level even without it. The success rate is less than 2%, especially at advanced level. No Young Scholar has ever won a MathCounts or Math Olympiad competition, or even come close to achieving something similar.

[Anonymous]

All the minions are yellow... No URM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before parents sue FCPS for creating numerous barriers that prevent any advanced 6th-grade students from enrolling in Algebra 1.

You are against raising the bar?

The requirements for taking algebra 1 in 8th or 9th are reasonable, the requirements for taking it in 6th are not.

It is reasonable for a small fraction of the students to take it in 6th.

Several points here. First, the school should at least try to accommodate and meet the students where they are, within reason. Second, knowledge is knowledge, if the student takes a class elsewhere and passes the class standards they should be placed appropriately.

Equity politics necessitates certain students to firmly be in the lower gen ed and remedial classes, and great measures are taken to hide access to information about advanced acceleration options. Case in point: there is not a single document accessible to URM families to know about math acceleration options, such as algebra 1 in 6th grade, but plenty of neon signs and street fliers doing outreach about the availability of remedial math options.

Maybe your kid wasn’t identified as a Young Scholar?
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/young-scholars

Young Scholars is a show-off program that highlights a few students who would have performed at that level even without it. The success rate is less than 2%, especially at advanced level. No Young Scholar has ever won a MathCounts or Math Olympiad competition, or even come close to achieving something similar.

Approximately 0 people win Mathcounts or Math Olympiad, both of which are well outside school curriculum and so are irrelevant to school placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS parents are kept in the dark about math acceleration options such as Algebra1 in 6th grade, and lack of that awareness impacts URM families the most. Equity battalion wants to limit URM students to general ed and remedial classes.

Algebra1 at 6th grade needs recommendation for math teacher in 4th grade so that the student can take IAAT at 5th grade. It's only for the most advanced students. It is not healthy to advocating for Algebra1 in 6th grade.

That's how URM students are being suppressed. It is insulting and racist to tell students that advanced education is unhealthy, especially when students nationwide succeed in advanced math at a higher rate after enrollment.

That is not what PP said. Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

This 6th grade algebra is such a weird thing to fixate on. Is it FCPS's fault that some kids don't get read to or nurtured at home so they are on a par with other kids whose parents are doing these things? Just give the supposedly secret test to all the kids and let the chips fall where they may, but don't lower the bar for enrollment because only a small % of kids of any race are going to qualify. And none of the parents who push their kids into math that is 3 years more advanced than the normal sequence should expect their kids to be coddled by the teachers or for the curriculum to be less rigorous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS parents are kept in the dark about math acceleration options such as Algebra1 in 6th grade, and lack of that awareness impacts URM families the most. Equity battalion wants to limit URM students to general ed and remedial classes.

Algebra1 at 6th grade needs recommendation for math teacher in 4th grade so that the student can take IAAT at 5th grade. It's only for the most advanced students. It is not healthy to advocating for Algebra1 in 6th grade.

That's how URM students are being suppressed. It is insulting and racist to tell students that advanced education is unhealthy, especially when students nationwide succeed in advanced math at a higher rate after enrollment.

It can be unhealthy to advocate Algebra I in 6th grade, for example, for Asian students, because every Asian family would be prepping for that and it creates unnecessary stress. Nobody is gatekeeping URM to Algebra I, you are free to go to Kumon and do 10 math worksheets every day from 1st grade to 6th grade, EVERY DAY including vacation, holidays, sick or well, to get to 2 levels above grade, then come back to say you are discriminated against.