JMU Waitlist

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

The waitlist is just in case the yield is less than expected. A school like JMU makes a lot more admission offers than are accepted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think when the Virginia Tech and William & Mary waitlists move, more spots will open up at JMU.

JMU has such a great mix of technology course, "caring professions" coursework and performing arts, in addition to great sports (to play & watch) that is a great fit for most people who were lucky enough to be admitted.

In NOVA, people are drawn to the most competitive option though, so it is safe to assume that if those even more selective colleges have movement, JMU will have a few who let their deposit go.

Deadline extensions we have been offered are into early June, so maybe by July the news you were hoping for will find your child.

My kid was flat out rejected, but offered a lot of merit aid at a private college with similar attributes, but it if were a WL, we'd be in the same boat.

VT is closer to JMU in selectivity than to W&M to be factually clear. Not even close.

Cite?

Here you go: https://research.schev.edu/info/Reports.Guide-to-the-Admissions-Reports

that proves nothing. do better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think when the Virginia Tech and William & Mary waitlists move, more spots will open up at JMU.

JMU has such a great mix of technology course, "caring professions" coursework and performing arts, in addition to great sports (to play & watch) that is a great fit for most people who were lucky enough to be admitted.

In NOVA, people are drawn to the most competitive option though, so it is safe to assume that if those even more selective colleges have movement, JMU will have a few who let their deposit go.

Deadline extensions we have been offered are into early June, so maybe by July the news you were hoping for will find your child.

My kid was flat out rejected, but offered a lot of merit aid at a private college with similar attributes, but it if were a WL, we'd be in the same boat.

VT is closer to JMU in selectivity than to W&M to be factually clear. Not even close.

Cite?

Here you go: https://research.schev.edu/info/Reports.Guide-to-the-Admissions-Reports

that proves nothing. do better

It has all the comparable data on the Admissions: First Time Freshman Profile - B10 report

SAT 75/50/25 -- W&M 1510/1450/1360; VT 1410/1330/1250; JMU 1320/1240/1180
ACT 75/50/25 -- W&M 34/33/32; VT 32/30/27; JMU 29/28/25
GPA 75/50/25 -- W&M 4.53/4.36/4.18; VT 4.33/4.10/3.86; JMU 4.11/3.89/3.65

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

No. It all depends on the actual yield in a given year. Schools offer admission to more kids because they know a certain percentage will take offers elsewhere. If for example a schools traditional yield is 50% (5 out of every 10 offers are accepted) but this year it is only 40% then they will take from the waitlist. If it is 50% they won’t and if it is 60% then they have turn some doubles into triples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

No. It all depends on the actual yield in a given year. Schools offer admission to more kids because they know a certain percentage will take offers elsewhere. If for example a schools traditional yield is 50% (5 out of every 10 offers are accepted) but this year it is only 40% then they will take from the waitlist. If it is 50% they won’t and if it is 60% then they have turn some doubles into triples.

Schools have to estimate yield. They also put in a buffer in their calculations because they usually don't want to overenroll (e.g. have a housing shortage). If they underestimate yield, they to go to the waitlist.

I think things are running behind this year due to the delay in financial aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

That is not how it works. It is not one out - one in.

[Anonymous]

Does the HS counselor know, with a doubt, that the student really-really-really wants JMU?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think when the Virginia Tech and William & Mary waitlists move, more spots will open up at JMU.

JMU has such a great mix of technology course, "caring professions" coursework and performing arts, in addition to great sports (to play & watch) that is a great fit for most people who were lucky enough to be admitted.

In NOVA, people are drawn to the most competitive option though, so it is safe to assume that if those even more selective colleges have movement, JMU will have a few who let their deposit go.

Deadline extensions we have been offered are into early June, so maybe by July the news you were hoping for will find your child.

My kid was flat out rejected, but offered a lot of merit aid at a private college with similar attributes, but it if were a WL, we'd be in the same boat.

VT is closer to JMU in selectivity than to W&M to be factually clear. Not even close.

Whether you are incorrect or correct, you have shifted away from the point.

A lot of students are looking at both of those schools as a reach, or a first choice (for different reasons) but JMU does a nice job meeting the needs of a lot of different students.
The statement is not about pitting VT & W&M against one another, but it is designed to actually address OP's concern.

I hope, for their sake, some students will give up their JMU spots to move out to Williamsburg or Blacksburg and it doesn't matter which. I only didn't bring up private colleges because these area all so close in price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

That is not how it works. It is not one out - one in.

That is exactly how it works.

Anyway, no one has heard I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

That is not how it works. It is not one out - one in.

That is exactly how it works.

Anyway, no one has heard I guess.

Do you really think that JMU admits students expecting 100% yield? As in, they have 5000 seats for freshman, so they admit 5000 students and waitlist/reject the rest? Of course not.

So no, they do not take someone off the wailist when someone declines the admission. It is not one out - one in.

[Anonymous]

My kid got into all three. He chose VT. I know it's not one out, one in, but the fact that a lot of kids are applying to these same schools hopefully means that spots will open up once all decisions are in. I hope everyone on the wait-list gets good news.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think when the Virginia Tech and William & Mary waitlists move, more spots will open up at JMU.

JMU has such a great mix of technology course, "caring professions" coursework and performing arts, in addition to great sports (to play & watch) that is a great fit for most people who were lucky enough to be admitted.

In NOVA, people are drawn to the most competitive option though, so it is safe to assume that if those even more selective colleges have movement, JMU will have a few who let their deposit go.

Deadline extensions we have been offered are into early June, so maybe by July the news you were hoping for will find your child.

My kid was flat out rejected, but offered a lot of merit aid at a private college with similar attributes, but it if were a WL, we'd be in the same boat.

VT is closer to JMU in selectivity than to W&M to be factually clear. Not even close.

Cite?

Here you go: https://research.schev.edu/info/Reports.Guide-to-the-Admissions-Reports

that proves nothing. do better

It has all the comparable data on the Admissions: First Time Freshman Profile - B10 report

SAT 75/50/25 -- W&M 1510/1450/1360; VT 1410/1330/1250; JMU 1320/1240/1180
ACT 75/50/25 -- W&M 34/33/32; VT 32/30/27; JMU 29/28/25
GPA 75/50/25 -- W&M 4.53/4.36/4.18; VT 4.33/4.10/3.86; JMU 4.11/3.89/3.65

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

No. Here's how it works. Let's say JMU has a yield rate of 25%, they plan for 1 out of every four admitted students to commit. If 4 students decline, that should free up one seat. Of course, your numbers are anecdotal and it may well be that in another set of 4 students, all 4 committed. We don't know the overall numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i emailed my regional admissions counselor, who told me that the incoming class is currently full and that they will reassess if space becomes available after orientation in july. if so then they will extend waitlist offers and if not they will officially close the waitlist. obviously NOT the news i was wanting to hear, as JMU was my #1, but i thought i would share for everyone hoping to hear from the waitlist soon. i’m still holding out hope that as other schools WL spots open up they may have more space, but who knows with how things have been going this year in admissions.

I don't understand how this could be true. I know at least 4 of my DD's friends who had JMU as their safety when they got into their first choice. So I know of at least 4 girls from NOVA that were offered JMU admission and won't be attending. Doesn't that mean at least 4 kids get off the WL?

No. Here's how it works. Let's say JMU has a yield rate of 25%, they plan for 1 out of every four admitted students to commit. If 4 students decline, that should free up one seat. Of course, your numbers are anecdotal and it may well be that in another set of 4 students, all 4 committed. We don't know the overall numbers.

That's silly. Everyone knows they offer way more spots than they expect to be taken. So, when 1000 kids tell JMU "Thanks, but no thanks, I'm going to VT" they offer up 300 spots from the WL. It's not exactly tit for tat, but the concept is the same. Declines = WL admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the HS counselor know, with a doubt, that the student really-really-really wants JMU?

This is the reason all schools should have ED. No other way to show that the school is your first choice.

[Anonymous]

All schools should not have ED. ED favors the college more than the student.

What should happen is that there should be a limit of 10 applications from the common app, or higher deposits to stay on the accepted list.