Enrichment to keep up with AAP

[Anonymous]

People have all kinds of reasons for pushing their average kids into AAP. Maybe they have an overinflated view of their kid's abilities. Maybe they're trying to escape an underperforming local school. Maybe they know their mildly advanced kid will get ignored in gen ed. Maybe they place a high value on hard work and want their kid in the most rigorous track.

At least the parents are taking steps to make sure their average children aren't slowing down the AAP class.

[Anonymous]

I’m sorry. My kids are in AAP and it’s not a tough curriculum. The parents who have their kids do extra are not doing it so their kids can keep up. They are doing it bc they don’t think AAP is enough. Both my kids are in AAP and the advanced math still pales compared to what they learn in AoPs and RSM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry. My kids are in AAP and it’s not a tough curriculum. The parents who have their kids do extra are not doing it so their kids can keep up. They are doing it bc they don’t think AAP is enough. Both my kids are in AAP and the advanced math still pales compared to what they learn in AoPs and RSM.

Tone deaf much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a family having a kid at AAP in ES, and their child does enrichment at home on math and reading throughout the school year & summer time. Parents work from home, so they get a lot of workbooks for her to work on. She does not do any sports, music/art class, summer camp but academic only. Parents tell me that they prepare her a year ahead to get through AAP easier.

What is the purpose of AAP if kids have to be enriched this way to keep up? Does most AAP kids in ES have to do enrichment to keep up or else struggling or falling behind? I though AAP is designed for kids that are naturally born smart.

Parents of average kids rely on outside enrichment to make their child appear gifted. Spending $$$$ helps them secure advanced placements for programs like AAP and TJ. There's nothing new here. It's been going on forever.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry. My kids are in AAP and it’s not a tough curriculum. The parents who have their kids do extra are not doing it so their kids can keep up. They are doing it bc they don’t think AAP is enough. Both my kids are in AAP and the advanced math still pales compared to what they learn in AoPs and RSM.

Tone deaf much?

It’s not tone deaf. I think a lot of parents are maybe convincing themselves that these kids are in enrichment activities to keep up vs the reality that they are doing extra to supplement. Neither of my kids will go to TJ. No one is aiming for elite colleges in our household. So it’s not even about getting ahead. My kids are in AAP but also math programs outside of school bc I don’t think FCPS provides a solid math foundation. It’s accelerated but not in depth.

[Anonymous]

So what? Most academically advanced kids are that way because someone or something is exposing them to material their regular classroom isn’t. Kids don’t end up in Alg I in 6th grade with zero math exposure outside of their grade level. That is how you learn. If a kid is capable and willing to learn above grade level material and at an accelerated pace, and demonstrates such- they should be in AAP

[Anonymous]

I've seen a lot of AAP kids have ordinary struggles with math and then think they aren't good in math. Not true. They might be good, quite good. It's just not their gifted area. Because it's not their gifted area and not so easy for them, they avoid math. Sometimes their eventual careers show it. They end up taking less math than a conscientious student who did Gen Ed in ES/MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear one mom saying that their daughter takes Mathnasium because she wasn’t keeping up in AAP. Another admitted that they use Kumon 3x a week or they fill that child wasn’t getting it at school. A recent dad rushed his daughter off to RSM for a class. Two other kids we just learned have been attending a half day tutoring class every Saturday. People are doing it all over and we just were completely oblivious.

These students shouldn’t be in AAP. If they need remediation, AAP is not for them. Math is definitely one of those contents where you need a strong foundation and since everything will build from there. Without that foundation, there will be lots of holes… sorry for those kids. Those enrichment places should be used for kids who love math and love the challenge, not for tutoring to be in AAP. I’m sure when those students get to MS their teachers will boot them to Gen Ed Math.

These outside programs *are* the foundation, because school doesn't offer enough, and these parents don't feel comfortable administering at-home education.

Skipping ahead a year, or staying back, doesn't change the amount of immersion the school provides. Schools are afraid to give kids enough to succeed, because then they have to answer to admin when the wrong kids succeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear one mom saying that their daughter takes Mathnasium because she wasn’t keeping up in AAP. Another admitted that they use Kumon 3x a week or they fill that child wasn’t getting it at school. A recent dad rushed his daughter off to RSM for a class. Two other kids we just learned have been attending a half day tutoring class every Saturday. People are doing it all over and we just were completely oblivious.

These students shouldn’t be in AAP. If they need remediation, AAP is not for them. Math is definitely one of those contents where you need a strong foundation and since everything will build from there. Without that foundation, there will be lots of holes… sorry for those kids. Those enrichment places should be used for kids who love math and love the challenge, not for tutoring to be in AAP. I’m sure when those students get to MS their teachers will boot them to Gen Ed Math.

You'll be in for a shock when those kids are at the top of their 7th Grade Algebra Honors class and 8tj grade Algebra 2 after summer Geometry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear one mom saying that their daughter takes Mathnasium because she wasn’t keeping up in AAP. Another admitted that they use Kumon 3x a week or they fill that child wasn’t getting it at school. A recent dad rushed his daughter off to RSM for a class. Two other kids we just learned have been attending a half day tutoring class every Saturday. People are doing it all over and we just were completely oblivious.

These students shouldn’t be in AAP. If they need remediation, AAP is not for them. Math is definitely one of those contents where you need a strong foundation and since everything will build from there. Without that foundation, there will be lots of holes… sorry for those kids. Those enrichment places should be used for kids who love math and love the challenge, not for tutoring to be in AAP. I’m sure when those students get to MS their teachers will boot them to Gen Ed Math.

These outside programs *are* the foundation, because school doesn't offer enough, and these parents don't feel comfortable administering at-home education.

Skipping ahead a year, or staying back, doesn't change the amount of immersion the school provides. Schools are afraid to give kids enough to succeed, because then they have to answer to admin when the wrong kids succeed.

No. That's delusional. And wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear one mom saying that their daughter takes Mathnasium because she wasn’t keeping up in AAP. Another admitted that they use Kumon 3x a week or they fill that child wasn’t getting it at school. A recent dad rushed his daughter off to RSM for a class. Two other kids we just learned have been attending a half day tutoring class every Saturday. People are doing it all over and we just were completely oblivious.

These students shouldn’t be in AAP. If they need remediation, AAP is not for them. Math is definitely one of those contents where you need a strong foundation and since everything will build from there. Without that foundation, there will be lots of holes… sorry for those kids. Those enrichment places should be used for kids who love math and love the challenge, not for tutoring to be in AAP. I’m sure when those students get to MS their teachers will boot them to Gen Ed Math.

These outside programs *are* the foundation, because school doesn't offer enough, and these parents don't feel comfortable administering at-home education.

Skipping ahead a year, or staying back, doesn't change the amount of immersion the school provides. Schools are afraid to give kids enough to succeed, because then they have to answer to admin when the wrong kids succeed.

What does that even mean?

Outside programs are not the foundation. School is providing the foundation. If a student needs tutoring 3x a week because they’re behind. That’s remediation.

[Anonymous]

Some parents prefer their kids to learn more. No big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear one mom saying that their daughter takes Mathnasium because she wasn’t keeping up in AAP. Another admitted that they use Kumon 3x a week or they fill that child wasn’t getting it at school. A recent dad rushed his daughter off to RSM for a class. Two other kids we just learned have been attending a half day tutoring class every Saturday. People are doing it all over and we just were completely oblivious.

These students shouldn’t be in AAP. If they need remediation, AAP is not for them. Math is definitely one of those contents where you need a strong foundation and since everything will build from there. Without that foundation, there will be lots of holes… sorry for those kids. Those enrichment places should be used for kids who love math and love the challenge, not for tutoring to be in AAP. I’m sure when those students get to MS their teachers will boot them to Gen Ed Math.

These outside programs *are* the foundation, because school doesn't offer enough, and these parents don't feel comfortable administering at-home education.

Skipping ahead a year, or staying back, doesn't change the amount of immersion the school provides. Schools are afraid to give kids enough to succeed, because then they have to answer to admin when the wrong kids succeed.

What does that even mean?

Outside programs are not the foundation. School is providing the foundation. If a student needs tutoring 3x a week because they’re behind. That’s remediation.

Behind parents expectations, not necessarily behind school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry. My kids are in AAP and it’s not a tough curriculum. The parents who have their kids do extra are not doing it so their kids can keep up. They are doing it bc they don’t think AAP is enough. Both my kids are in AAP and the advanced math still pales compared to what they learn in AoPs and RSM.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear one mom saying that their daughter takes Mathnasium because she wasn’t keeping up in AAP. Another admitted that they use Kumon 3x a week or they fill that child wasn’t getting it at school. A recent dad rushed his daughter off to RSM for a class. Two other kids we just learned have been attending a half day tutoring class every Saturday. People are doing it all over and we just were completely oblivious.

These students shouldn’t be in AAP. If they need remediation, AAP is not for them. Math is definitely one of those contents where you need a strong foundation and since everything will build from there. Without that foundation, there will be lots of holes… sorry for those kids. Those enrichment places should be used for kids who love math and love the challenge, not for tutoring to be in AAP. I’m sure when those students get to MS their teachers will boot them to Gen Ed Math.

These outside programs *are* the foundation, because school doesn't offer enough, and these parents don't feel comfortable administering at-home education.

Skipping ahead a year, or staying back, doesn't change the amount of immersion the school provides. Schools are afraid to give kids enough to succeed, because then they have to answer to admin when the wrong kids succeed.

No. That's delusional. And wrong.

Yeah, what are you even taking about? Schools can’t offer harder curriculum bc there aren’t enough kids that will be successful. Look at national numbers. Majority of kids aren’t even grade level proficient in any subjects.