Endowment per student rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That's kind of the point - if you're an undergrad, you want the resources directed to you.

Yeah, but my understanding is that’s where the endowment is mostly a factor.
Penn Law and Medicine have their own endowments that aren’t part of the $22BN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That’s where SLACs come in.

Exactly, and to qualify further following are top 5 colleges for undergrad teaching:

- Amherst College - $1.68m / student
- Swarthmore College - $1.65m / student
- Williams College - $1.60m / student
- Pomona College - $1.56m / student
- Grinnell College - $1.4m / student

Also, in US news above are in top 11, and also in other list ranking of best value, best undergrad teaching etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
One of the reasons why some savvy consumers choose Amherst / Williams / Swarthmore / Pomona over JHU / CMU / Umich.

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Institution name FY22 total endowment market value (in $1,000s) FY22 endowment value per full-time-equivalent student ($)
1 The Trustees of Princeton University $35,794,186 $4,067,983
2 Yale University $41,383,300 $2,868,064
3 Stanford University $36,300,000 $2,139,952
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology $24,739,862 $2,090,222
5 Harvard University $49,444,494 $2,013,622
6 Amherst College $3,321,853 $1,685,364
7 Swarthmore College $2,725,238 $1,650,659
8 Williams College $3,534,369 $1,607,993
9 Pomona College $2,749,865 $1,563,312
10 California Institute of Technology $3,635,000 $1,516,479
11 Trustees of Grinnell College $2,484,419 $1,437,742
12 University of Notre Dame $16,729,299 $1,292,237
13 Bowdoin College $2,474,541 $1,269,647
14 The Principia Corporation $855,284 $1,244,955
15 Wellesley College $2,846,865 $1,196,665
16 Dartmouth College $8,065,743 $1,192,981
17 Smith College $2,467,996 $997,170
18 Berea College $1,438,286 $991,921
19 Rice University $7,814,267 $982,185
20 Washington & Lee University $1,998,334 $894,509
21 University of Richmond $3,153,393 $867,110
22 Trustees of the University of Pennsylvania $20,724,352 $839,077
23 Claremont McKenna College $1,142,670 $805,832
24 Washington University $12,252,329 $794,729
25 Vanderbilt University $10,206,067 $787,384
26 Northwestern University $14,121,488 $693,590
27 Bryn Mawr College $1,144,940 $683,139
28 Duke University $12,116,260 $673,013
29 Emory University $9,997,742 $670,300
30 Davidson College $1,316,043 $667,026
31 Trinity University $1,704,816 $646,743
32 Webb Institute $65,838 $627,030
33 Hamilton College $1,275,562 $622,529
34 Earlham College $426,217 $600,306
35 Brown University $6,141,243 $594,046
36 Berry College $1,236,198 $544,101
37 Carleton College $1,093,698 $535,077
38 The President and Trustees of Colby College $1,122,451 $496,221
39 Vassar College $1,196,336 $475,491
40 Reed College $721,766 $472,360
41 Denison University $1,068,552 $462,176
42 Wabash College $385,200 $459,666
43 Harvey Mudd College $401,525 $444,559
44 Whitman College $683,569 $440,501
45 Trustees of Mount Holyoke College $1,002,549 $439,136
46 Haverford College $618,975 $436,205
47 Trustees of Columbia University $13,279,846 $434,835
48 Wesleyan University $1,485,020 $431,654
49 St. John’s College $202,898 $430,324
50 DePauw University $719,982 $421,535
51 Middlebury College $1,467,208 $421,248
52 Virginia Military Institute Foundation $660,302 $415,285
53 Scripps College $460,616 $414,223
54 University of Virginia $9,858,442 $410,871
55 Oberlin College $1,201,825 $408,506
56 Cornell University $9,838,198 $395,108
57 Johns Hopkins University $8,244,472 $389,147
58 Colgate University $1,197,412 $379,048
59 Macalester College $830,478 $374,258
60 The Colorado College $822,931 $370,356
61 Lafayette College $1,000,969 $369,089
62 Trinity College $780,152 $363,368
63 University of Tulsa $1,269,395 $345,790
64 Furman University $812,285 $331,952
65 College of the Holy Cross $992,627 $316,325
66 Centre College of Kentucky $408,796 $309,694
67 Loma Linda University $1,221,628 $294,723
68 University of Michigan $17,347,188 $294,469
69 Lawrence University $440,839 $294,285
70 Occidental College $575,933 $291,656
71 Medical College of Georgia Foundation $277,725 $290,204
72 Bucknell University $1,070,375 $286,197
73 Kenyon College $517,007 $276,326
74 Hollins University $214,659 $274,500
75 Mills College $191,164 $273,482
76 Hampden-Sydney College $231,544 $273,369
77 Dickinson College $583,477 $270,379
78 Carnegie Mellon University $3,856,808 $254,810
79 University of Rochester $2,739,187 $254,146
80 Washington College $257,248 $252,452
81 Lehigh University $1,679,807 $247,103
82 Southwestern University $366,390 $245,665
83 The University of the South $439,971 $245,657
84 Erikson Institute $55,309 $241,525
85 Union College $498,108 $239,130
86 Trustees of Boston College $3,336,600 $235,303
87 Bates College $418,544 $229,843
88 Connecticut College $416,635 $229,298
89 Brandeis University $1,205,168 $228,902
90 St. Olaf College $666,028 $224,101
91 University of Texas System $42,668,276 $223,364
92 Spelman College $459,463 $218,792
93 Wake Forest University $1,819,776 $216,640
94 Wofford College $378,837 $216,231
95 Ohio Wesleyan University $277,679 $207,999
96 Wheaton College $529,360 $204,940
97 Texas Christian University $2,400,814 $204,743
98 University of Puget Sound $427,977 $202,449
99 Agnes Scott College $218,549 $202,422
100 Allegheny College $264,304 $198,426
101 Rhodes College $394,337 $195,993
102 Claremont Graduate University $193,133 $194,103
103 The College of Wooster $374,948 $191,789
104 Case Western Reserve University $2,188,161 $190,856
105 Tufts University $2,350,755 $189,089
106 Southern Methodist University $1,958,460 $188,816
107 Georgetown University $3,210,032 $186,272
108 Franklin and Marshall College $396,835 $184,061
109 Santa Clara University $1,471,579 $181,789
110 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Foundations $5,317,821 $180,498
111 Lycoming College $195,196 $180,236
112 Babson College $660,904 $178,768
113 Meharry Medical College $169,169 $175,852
114 University of Pittsburgh $5,528,910 $173,190
115 Illinois Wesleyan University $269,723 $163,172
116 University of the Ozarks $126,792 $162,762
117 Goucher College $243,311 $161,991
118 Saint John's University $257,884 $161,581
119 Skidmore College $426,879 $160,180
120 Hanover College $159,263 $159,422
121 St. Lawrence University $352,923 $157,064
122 Pepperdine University $1,205,436 $155,882
123 Muhlenberg College $308,509 $153,717
124 Tulane University $2,051,940 $152,595
125 William & Mary and Foundations $1,301,722 $150,610
126 Trustees of Clark University $487,169 $150,547
127 The Texas A&M University System & Related Foundations $18,243,191 $149,232
128 California Institute of the Arts $211,728 $148,921
129 Rhode Island School of Design $379,013 $147,132
130 Gettysburg College $366,383 $145,563
131 Wheaton College (Mass.) $241,464 $143,243
132 Willamette University $304,324 $138,644
133 Abilene Christian University $675,503 $138,281
134 Hobart & William Smith Colleges $230,797 $138,119
135 Randolph-Macon College $200,256 $135,951
136 University of Dubuque $207,856 $134,884
137 Yeshiva University $681,075 $134,175
138 Austin College $157,925 $133,806
139 Illinois College $146,550 $133,714
140 The Citadel $397,404 $131,200
141 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute $864,141 $127,813

https://www.insidehighered.com/opinion/blogs/learning-innovation/2023/09/08/endowments-full-time-equivalent-student

The endowment of an LAC is going to be entirely or almost entirely focused on undergraduates. When you have a university, a large percentage of the endowment may belong to graduate programs (e.g. Harvard Business School) that do not have any undergraduates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That's kind of the point - if you're an undergrad, you want the resources directed to you.

Yeah, but my understanding is that’s where the endowment is mostly a factor.
Penn Law and Medicine have their own endowments that aren’t part of the $22BN.

They are part of the overall endowment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That's kind of the point - if you're an undergrad, you want the resources directed to you.

Yeah, but my understanding is that’s where the endowment is mostly a factor.
Penn Law and Medicine have their own endowments that aren’t part of the $22BN.

About 43% of UVA's endowment belongs to Medicine, Law, and Darden. Those schools don't have any undergraduate students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
One of the reasons why some savvy consumers choose Amherst / Williams / Swarthmore / Pomona over JHU / CMU / Umich.

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Institution name FY22 total endowment market value (in $1,000s) FY22 endowment value per full-time-equivalent student ($)
1 The Trustees of Princeton University $35,794,186 $4,067,983
2 Yale University $41,383,300 $2,868,064
3 Stanford University $36,300,000 $2,139,952
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology $24,739,862 $2,090,222
5 Harvard University $49,444,494 $2,013,622
6 Amherst College $3,321,853 $1,685,364
7 Swarthmore College $2,725,238 $1,650,659
8 Williams College $3,534,369 $1,607,993
9 Pomona College $2,749,865 $1,563,312
10 California Institute of Technology $3,635,000 $1,516,479
11 Trustees of Grinnell College $2,484,419 $1,437,742
12 University of Notre Dame $16,729,299 $1,292,237
13 Bowdoin College $2,474,541 $1,269,647
14 The Principia Corporation $855,284 $1,244,955
15 Wellesley College $2,846,865 $1,196,665
16 Dartmouth College $8,065,743 $1,192,981
17 Smith College $2,467,996 $997,170
18 Berea College $1,438,286 $991,921
19 Rice University $7,814,267 $982,185
20 Washington & Lee University $1,998,334 $894,509
21 University of Richmond $3,153,393 $867,110
22 Trustees of the University of Pennsylvania $20,724,352 $839,077
23 Claremont McKenna College $1,142,670 $805,832
24 Washington University $12,252,329 $794,729
25 Vanderbilt University $10,206,067 $787,384
26 Northwestern University $14,121,488 $693,590
27 Bryn Mawr College $1,144,940 $683,139
28 Duke University $12,116,260 $673,013
29 Emory University $9,997,742 $670,300
30 Davidson College $1,316,043 $667,026
31 Trinity University $1,704,816 $646,743
32 Webb Institute $65,838 $627,030
33 Hamilton College $1,275,562 $622,529
34 Earlham College $426,217 $600,306
35 Brown University $6,141,243 $594,046
36 Berry College $1,236,198 $544,101
37 Carleton College $1,093,698 $535,077
38 The President and Trustees of Colby College $1,122,451 $496,221
39 Vassar College $1,196,336 $475,491
40 Reed College $721,766 $472,360
41 Denison University $1,068,552 $462,176
42 Wabash College $385,200 $459,666
43 Harvey Mudd College $401,525 $444,559
44 Whitman College $683,569 $440,501
45 Trustees of Mount Holyoke College $1,002,549 $439,136
46 Haverford College $618,975 $436,205
47 Trustees of Columbia University $13,279,846 $434,835
48 Wesleyan University $1,485,020 $431,654
49 St. John’s College $202,898 $430,324
50 DePauw University $719,982 $421,535
51 Middlebury College $1,467,208 $421,248
52 Virginia Military Institute Foundation $660,302 $415,285
53 Scripps College $460,616 $414,223
54 University of Virginia $9,858,442 $410,871
55 Oberlin College $1,201,825 $408,506
56 Cornell University $9,838,198 $395,108
57 Johns Hopkins University $8,244,472 $389,147
58 Colgate University $1,197,412 $379,048
59 Macalester College $830,478 $374,258
60 The Colorado College $822,931 $370,356
61 Lafayette College $1,000,969 $369,089
62 Trinity College $780,152 $363,368
63 University of Tulsa $1,269,395 $345,790
64 Furman University $812,285 $331,952
65 College of the Holy Cross $992,627 $316,325
66 Centre College of Kentucky $408,796 $309,694
67 Loma Linda University $1,221,628 $294,723
68 University of Michigan $17,347,188 $294,469
69 Lawrence University $440,839 $294,285
70 Occidental College $575,933 $291,656
71 Medical College of Georgia Foundation $277,725 $290,204
72 Bucknell University $1,070,375 $286,197
73 Kenyon College $517,007 $276,326
74 Hollins University $214,659 $274,500
75 Mills College $191,164 $273,482
76 Hampden-Sydney College $231,544 $273,369
77 Dickinson College $583,477 $270,379
78 Carnegie Mellon University $3,856,808 $254,810
79 University of Rochester $2,739,187 $254,146
80 Washington College $257,248 $252,452
81 Lehigh University $1,679,807 $247,103
82 Southwestern University $366,390 $245,665
83 The University of the South $439,971 $245,657
84 Erikson Institute $55,309 $241,525
85 Union College $498,108 $239,130
86 Trustees of Boston College $3,336,600 $235,303
87 Bates College $418,544 $229,843
88 Connecticut College $416,635 $229,298
89 Brandeis University $1,205,168 $228,902
90 St. Olaf College $666,028 $224,101
91 University of Texas System $42,668,276 $223,364
92 Spelman College $459,463 $218,792
93 Wake Forest University $1,819,776 $216,640
94 Wofford College $378,837 $216,231
95 Ohio Wesleyan University $277,679 $207,999
96 Wheaton College $529,360 $204,940
97 Texas Christian University $2,400,814 $204,743
98 University of Puget Sound $427,977 $202,449
99 Agnes Scott College $218,549 $202,422
100 Allegheny College $264,304 $198,426
101 Rhodes College $394,337 $195,993
102 Claremont Graduate University $193,133 $194,103
103 The College of Wooster $374,948 $191,789
104 Case Western Reserve University $2,188,161 $190,856
105 Tufts University $2,350,755 $189,089
106 Southern Methodist University $1,958,460 $188,816
107 Georgetown University $3,210,032 $186,272
108 Franklin and Marshall College $396,835 $184,061
109 Santa Clara University $1,471,579 $181,789
110 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Foundations $5,317,821 $180,498
111 Lycoming College $195,196 $180,236
112 Babson College $660,904 $178,768
113 Meharry Medical College $169,169 $175,852
114 University of Pittsburgh $5,528,910 $173,190
115 Illinois Wesleyan University $269,723 $163,172
116 University of the Ozarks $126,792 $162,762
117 Goucher College $243,311 $161,991
118 Saint John's University $257,884 $161,581
119 Skidmore College $426,879 $160,180
120 Hanover College $159,263 $159,422
121 St. Lawrence University $352,923 $157,064
122 Pepperdine University $1,205,436 $155,882
123 Muhlenberg College $308,509 $153,717
124 Tulane University $2,051,940 $152,595
125 William & Mary and Foundations $1,301,722 $150,610
126 Trustees of Clark University $487,169 $150,547
127 The Texas A&M University System & Related Foundations $18,243,191 $149,232
128 California Institute of the Arts $211,728 $148,921
129 Rhode Island School of Design $379,013 $147,132
130 Gettysburg College $366,383 $145,563
131 Wheaton College (Mass.) $241,464 $143,243
132 Willamette University $304,324 $138,644
133 Abilene Christian University $675,503 $138,281
134 Hobart & William Smith Colleges $230,797 $138,119
135 Randolph-Macon College $200,256 $135,951
136 University of Dubuque $207,856 $134,884
137 Yeshiva University $681,075 $134,175
138 Austin College $157,925 $133,806
139 Illinois College $146,550 $133,714
140 The Citadel $397,404 $131,200
141 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute $864,141 $127,813

https://www.insidehighered.com/opinion/blogs/learning-innovation/2023/09/08/endowments-full-time-equivalent-student

I wonder what is going to happen if these schools stop legacy admissions...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That’s where SLACs come in.

Exactly, and to qualify further following are top 5 colleges for undergrad teaching:

- Amherst College - $1.68m / student
- Swarthmore College - $1.65m / student
- Williams College - $1.60m / student
- Pomona College - $1.56m / student
- Grinnell College - $1.4m / student

Also, in US news above are in top 11, and also in other list ranking of best value, best undergrad teaching etc.

By what ranking of undergrad teaching?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That’s where SLACs come in.

Exactly, and to qualify further following are top 5 colleges for undergrad teaching:

- Amherst College - $1.68m / student
- Swarthmore College - $1.65m / student
- Williams College - $1.60m / student
- Pomona College - $1.56m / student
- Grinnell College - $1.4m / student

Also, in US news above are in top 11, and also in other list ranking of best value, best undergrad teaching etc.

By what ranking of undergrad teaching?

Not PP, I guess PP might be referring to this:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/undergraduate-teaching

[Anonymous]

Damn, the top 5 schools are rolling in $$$!

[Anonymous]

Interesting how some of the recent upstart schools like NYU, BU, Northeastern, Tulane have bottom of the barrel endowments per student:

https://www.reachhighscholars.org/college_endowments.html

Placing them above the top tier LACs in undergrad value is folderol.

[Anonymous]

I went to a massive flagship, got a great education, and had a great experience. I felt like my school had a ton of resources but that students had make a bit of effort to find and obtain them.

My DC is now in one of the schools in the top 10 of endowment per student. My take is that it certainly makes a difference but only up to a certain point. Here are the advantages of having a massive endowment:
* More generous financial aid: This is great if you need it. It also gives such schools an advantage in creating economic diversity.
* Grants: E.g., getting paid by the school to do a non-profit internship, getting funding to travel abroad for the summer for an academic program, getting funding to do an expensive research or art project.
* Hidden perks: Free laundry, book-and-supply credit, travel allowances, constant free food, etc.
* Money for clubs: It's pretty easy for a student organization to get money from the school for whatever it is that they do.
* More administrative support: This is usually but not always the case. I think the career counseling and advising services at wealthy schools are usually better than those less funded schools.

All of this stuff is great, particularly if you're low income or middle class. But none of it is vitally necessary. I never felt like I was deprived of opportunities or resources in my own education (well, more advising would have been nice), but I'm also grateful that DC has them so readily available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are too many jobless moms on this forum.

Seriously, ranking on endowment that has zero meaning for kids

You need to get it more.

Endowments are a primary source of funds for ongoing operations and salaries at universities (operating expenses).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This list is including grad students in the endowment per student. I am not sure that makes much sense and not sure if it is consistently applied.

For example, Penn’s endowment per student comes out to 22,000 students when there are only 10,000 undergrads.

That’s where SLACs come in.

Exactly, and to qualify further following are top 5 colleges for undergrad teaching:

- Amherst College - $1.68m / student
- Swarthmore College - $1.65m / student
- Williams College - $1.60m / student
- Pomona College - $1.56m / student
- Grinnell College - $1.4m / student

Also, in US news above are in top 11, and also in other list ranking of best value, best undergrad teaching etc.

This is gold! extend it to another 15 and consider their respective acceptance rates to get a list of top 20 colleges.

[Anonymous]

Disgusting that these rich colleges still charge a ridiculous amount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Disgusting that these rich colleges still charge a ridiculous amount.

They give generous aid as well. Amherst, Grinnell and Williams are need blind.

Where is the issue?