Theory on Top Area Privates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom of the class is getting into the likes of VT, UMD, CWRU, NEU, Colgate or Haverford. That seems optimistic.

I’d think more like JMU, Alabama, UVM, Muhlenberg, Ursinus.

THIS +100. No way the bottom of privates get into the others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom of the class is getting into the likes of VT, UMD, CWRU, NEU, Colgate or Haverford. That seems optimistic.

I’d think more like JMU, Alabama, UVM, Muhlenberg, Ursinus.

THIS +100. No way the bottom of privates get into the others.

the rest are like a 3.5-3.6 which is about the 50% of GPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is that bottom of the class are sometimes former high A public school students. I know 2 of them. Straight high As in DPCS middle school. Very bright kids. Transfered to a Big3 in high school and got a C freshman year foreign language (because foreign language background was horrible in DCPS) and a B or B+ every year since in English and/or foreign language and now they're in the bottom of the class.

In retrospect these particular kids would have done much better staying in public.

Do you hear yourself? These particular kids would become adults who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag if they had stayed at JR or SWW. By your own description.

How is that "much better," exactly?

My J-R grad is at an Ivy double majoring in History and English. And has a 3.95 GPA. So, um, they are apparently writing themselves just fine out of your proverbial bag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is that bottom of the class are sometimes former high A public school students. I know 2 of them. Straight high As in DPCS middle school. Very bright kids. Transfered to a Big3 in high school and got a C freshman year foreign language (because foreign language background was horrible in DCPS) and a B or B+ every year since in English and/or foreign language and now they're in the bottom of the class.

In retrospect these particular kids would have done much better staying in public.

Do you hear yourself? These particular kids would become adults who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag if they had stayed at JR or SWW. By your own description.

How is that "much better," exactly?

My J-R grad is at an Ivy double majoring in History and English. And has a 3.95 GPA. So, um, they are apparently writing themselves just fine out of your proverbial bag.

I personally can’t write my way out of a paper bag (never could) and I’ve done very well for myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is that bottom of the class are sometimes former high A public school students. I know 2 of them. Straight high As in DPCS middle school. Very bright kids. Transfered to a Big3 in high school and got a C freshman year foreign language (because foreign language background was horrible in DCPS) and a B or B+ every year since in English and/or foreign language and now they're in the bottom of the class.

In retrospect these particular kids would have done much better staying in public.

Do you hear yourself? These particular kids would become adults who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag if they had stayed at JR or SWW. By your own description.

How is that "much better," exactly?

My J-R grad is at an Ivy double majoring in History and English. And has a 3.95 GPA. So, um, they are apparently writing themselves just fine out of your proverbial bag.

How is this possible? Did he teach himself to write at home? I"m genuinely curious. My kids came out of Deal and were barely able to write a coherent 5 paragraph essay despite having high As in ELA at Deal. They went on to a Big3 private and struggled mightily with the writing that was required of them. They both got Bs the first semester. Some Deal classmates got Cs and then Bs the entire way through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is that bottom of the class are sometimes former high A public school students. I know 2 of them. Straight high As in DPCS middle school. Very bright kids. Transfered to a Big3 in high school and got a C freshman year foreign language (because foreign language background was horrible in DCPS) and a B or B+ every year since in English and/or foreign language and now they're in the bottom of the class.

In retrospect these particular kids would have done much better staying in public.

Do you hear yourself? These particular kids would become adults who couldn't write their way out of a paper bag if they had stayed at JR or SWW. By your own description.

How is that "much better," exactly?

My J-R grad is at an Ivy double majoring in History and English. And has a 3.95 GPA. So, um, they are apparently writing themselves just fine out of your proverbial bag.

How is this possible? Did he teach himself to write at home? I"m genuinely curious. My kids came out of Deal and were barely able to write a coherent 5 paragraph essay despite having high As in ELA at Deal. They went on to a Big3 private and struggled mightily with the writing that was required of them. They both got Bs the first semester. Some Deal classmates got Cs and then Bs the entire way through.

They didn't learn anything at Deal but J-R (then Wilson) was a different story. AP classes- particularly the history ones- were rigorous and they worked on the Beacon (the school newspaper) all four years. I'm not saying it was the same as if they had gone to Maret or Sidwell, but it did the trick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom of the class is getting into the likes of VT, UMD, CWRU, NEU, Colgate or Haverford. That seems optimistic.

I’d think more like JMU, Alabama, UVM, Muhlenberg, Ursinus.

If you have a B/ + student and JMU and Alabama etc are their options, I would ask for my money back. Now if your kid wants those schools then fine but this should not be an example of a great outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom of the class is getting into the likes of VT, UMD, CWRU, NEU, Colgate or Haverford. That seems optimistic.

I’d think more like JMU, Alabama, UVM, Muhlenberg, Ursinus.

THIS +100. No way the bottom of privates get into the others.

No way the bottom of the class has B/B+ average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom of the class is getting into the likes of VT, UMD, CWRU, NEU, Colgate or Haverford. That seems optimistic.

I’d think more like JMU, Alabama, UVM, Muhlenberg, Ursinus.

THIS +100. No way the bottom of privates get into the others.

No way the bottom of the class has B/B+ average.

Unless there’s grade inflation.

[Anonymous]

A lot of the top high school students at public would be middle of the class at a top private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the top high school students at public would be middle of the class at a top private.

??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the top high school students at public would be middle of the class at a top private.

??

This explains the college outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the top high school students at public would be middle of the class at a top private.

If you look at the area public schools (including DCPS) you see a bunch of Presidential Scholars which means nearly perfect SAT scores (believe 1580 at least) and all in one sitting.

You really think those kids will be middle of the class at private schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of the top high school students at public would be middle of the class at a top private.

If you look at the area public schools (including DCPS) you see a bunch of Presidential Scholars which means nearly perfect SAT scores (believe 1580 at least) and all in one sitting.

You really think those kids will be middle of the class at private schools?

Some would still be top of class, but a lot wouldn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom of the class is getting into the likes of VT, UMD, CWRU, NEU, Colgate or Haverford. That seems optimistic.

I’d think more like JMU, Alabama, UVM, Muhlenberg, Ursinus.

If you have a B/ + student and JMU and Alabama etc are their options, I would ask for my money back. Now if your kid wants those schools then fine but this should not be an example of a great outcome.

At my DC’s rigorous private the bottom GPAs are in the 2s, not the 3s. They give out lots of Cs and some Ds.