Seattle schools end gifted and talented program

[Anonymous]

Seattle private schools are increasingly hard to get into because of changes with not only SPS but also Eastside school districts.

My kids’ kindergarten class had ten applicants for one seat.

[Anonymous]

America racing toward mediocrity one school district at a time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seattle private schools are increasingly hard to get into because of changes with not only SPS but also Eastside school districts.

My kids’ kindergarten class had ten applicants for one seat.

Evergreen, UCDS, SCDS or Bush? Some of those schools have always been like that for kindergarten, but experience significant attrition at 5th/6th. What's interesting is how less relevant Bush seems lately in spite of its ever-insane competitive K admissions. It's a great school on paper but weirdly mediocre in reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2021, NYC’s then mayor initiated a phase-out of all the city’s gifted and talented programs, for racial equity reasons:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-schools-to-eliminate-controversial-gifted-talented-classes/3313300/

Massachusetts doesn’t have gifted and talented programs and their public schools always beat every other state in terms of test scores.

And why is a two year old reciting the Gettysburg Address and how does that make the child gifted? My three year old niece could read anything without missing a word and she wasn’t gifted, just a good reader who started a few years earlier than most. Everyone caught up with her.

Average performance is completely irrelevant to the performance of gifted and talented students.


Some schools in MA do.

Here's a 2019 report on how kids in MA are suffering due to lack of support for G&T education

https://www.doe.mass.edu/research/reports/2019/06review.docx

The best middle school math program in MA (and possibly the nation) is teacher Josh Frost's $30/hr classes. How's that for equity? The schools refuse to serve kids, so public school teachers make up the gap for private pay!

[Anonymous]

"Here’s how they do it at View Ridge Elementary, a neighborhood school in northeast Seattle that serves all levels of students in the same classrooms.

On a recent day in a first grade classroom, seven advanced learners sat on the floor reading silently on their iPads. "

Complete dereliction of duty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2021, NYC’s then mayor initiated a phase-out of all the city’s gifted and talented programs, for racial equity reasons:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-schools-to-eliminate-controversial-gifted-talented-classes/3313300/

Massachusetts doesn’t have gifted and talented programs and their public schools always beat every other state in terms of test scores.

And why is a two year old reciting the Gettysburg Address and how does that make the child gifted? My three year old niece could read anything without missing a word and she wasn’t gifted, just a good reader who started a few years earlier than most. Everyone caught up with her.

Congratulations on squandering her potential!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Here’s how they do it at View Ridge Elementary, a neighborhood school in northeast Seattle that serves all levels of students in the same classrooms.

On a recent day in a first grade classroom, seven advanced learners sat on the floor reading silently on their iPads. "

Complete dereliction of duty.

Did you see the other caption of the kindergarten class where it is structured to provide instruction to a nonverbal student. So the teacher is expected to structure lessons to a nonverbal student, students who are a little behind, student who are on grade level, students a little above grade level and students who are really advanced?

Who this really hurts are bright low income kids. Affluent parents will pay for private schools. Middle class parents will pay for outside enrichment and tutoring for their bright kids. The low income bright students get stuck on iPads all day while the teacher concentrates on the lowest performing students. Their parents can't afford enrichment or might not realize how their kids are being ignored all day. So these bright kids struggle when they go to larger secondary schools and are mixed in with higher performing kids who got outside enrichment while they were ignored all day.

[Anonymous]

Current US education policy has is so wrong. Should be working for the largest achievement gap possible. Raising the ceiling for those who are talented and gifted while raising the floor as high as possible for everyone else. But it is counterintuitive, we would rather bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Here’s how they do it at View Ridge Elementary, a neighborhood school in northeast Seattle that serves all levels of students in the same classrooms.

On a recent day in a first grade classroom, seven advanced learners sat on the floor reading silently on their iPads. "

Complete dereliction of duty.

Did you see the other caption of the kindergarten class where it is structured to provide instruction to a nonverbal student. So the teacher is expected to structure lessons to a nonverbal student, students who are a little behind, student who are on grade level, students a little above grade level and students who are really advanced?

Who this really hurts are bright low income kids. Affluent parents will pay for private schools. Middle class parents will pay for outside enrichment and tutoring for their bright kids. The low income bright students get stuck on iPads all day while the teacher concentrates on the lowest performing students. Their parents can't afford enrichment or might not realize how their kids are being ignored all day. So these bright kids struggle when they go to larger secondary schools and are mixed in with higher performing kids who got outside enrichment while they were ignored all day.

This is deliberate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Current US education policy has is so wrong. Should be working for the largest achievement gap possible. Raising the ceiling for those who are talented and gifted while raising the floor as high as possible for everyone else. But it is counterintuitive, we would rather bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

There are many powerful forces in the US that do not want the general population to be educated. They are the ones who are encouraging this in the name of “equity” but they know the people with money will go private, and others without will choose charters, which aren’t controlled by the government. The rest are left to become stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:America racing toward mediocrity one school district at a time.

I think this is a generous assessment, actually. I think America waved good-bye to mediocrity about 20 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Here's a 2019 report on how kids in MA are suffering due to lack of support for G&T education

https://www.doe.mass.edu/research/reports/2019/06review.docx

The best middle school math program in MA (and possibly the nation) is teacher Josh Frost's $30/hr classes. How's that for equity? The schools refuse to serve kids, so public school teachers make up the gap for private pay!

EXACTLY! I charge $60 an hour to tutor elementary and middle school students. Students and parents deserve a better quality of Tier 1 math education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current US education policy has is so wrong. Should be working for the largest achievement gap possible. Raising the ceiling for those who are talented and gifted while raising the floor as high as possible for everyone else. But it is counterintuitive, we would rather bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

There are many powerful forces in the US that do not want the general population to be educated. They are the ones who are encouraging this in the name of “equity” but they know the people with money will go private, and others without will choose charters, which aren’t controlled by the government. The rest are left to become stupid.

Charters are still beholden to the government if they are in states with high stakes testing. That’s what the majority of people don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2021, NYC’s then mayor initiated a phase-out of all the city’s gifted and talented programs, for racial equity reasons:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-schools-to-eliminate-controversial-gifted-talented-classes/3313300/

Massachusetts doesn’t have gifted and talented programs and their public schools always beat every other state in terms of test scores. .

Do they have the same racial/demographic stats? If not then it’s not relevant. We already know that some racial backgrounds perform better than others at school.

Saying the quiet part out loud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2021, NYC’s then mayor initiated a phase-out of all the city’s gifted and talented programs, for racial equity reasons:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-schools-to-eliminate-controversial-gifted-talented-classes/3313300/

Massachusetts doesn’t have gifted and talented programs and their public schools always beat every other state in terms of test scores. .

Do they have the same racial/demographic stats? If not then it’s not relevant. We already know that some racial backgrounds perform better than others at school.

Saying the quiet part out loud.

The recent article about the middle school in Amherst is not making MA look much better than anywhere else so…