2012/ Rising U13G Landscape

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SYC if you wanna spend your weekends with screaming Karens stressed out about little kid soccer.

That's every team in Northern Virginia.

This. Add Maryland into it as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

ok

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SYC if you wanna spend your weekends with screaming Karens stressed out about little kid soccer.

That's every team in Northern Virginia.

This. Add Maryland into it as well.

Maryland is worse. Teams from Baltimore area in particular. Playing those teams is like nails on chalkboard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes, I do have a player at a small club. I also have an older player that stayed at the small club longer for training. He had no problem moving to a top club when he wanted to and got a starting spot.

The level of training depends on the club and coach. Ours was worth staying for the training even if the competition and other players weren't as strong as the bigger club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Nope ECNL starter since u13, so maybe if you think your DD is a real player just read and STFU 😘

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes, I do have a player at a small club. I also have an older player that stayed at the small club longer for training. He had no problem moving to a top club when he wanted to and got a starting spot.

The level of training depends on the club and coach. Ours was worth staying for the training even if the competition and other players weren't as strong as the bigger club.

The level of training depends on the players they are training with. When you merge an A and a B team, that level drops

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes this is why I recommended staying as long as humanly possible, also provided the exception to that in same post. And a third strategy for when your 9v9 teams breaks apart for girls to play with boys. Keeping it overly simple for the novices who are clearly here to get some advice. Stop caring about the tournament results if you’re at a small club, you’ll never be satisfied if that is the goal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes this is why I recommended staying as long as humanly possible, also provided the exception to that in same post. And a third strategy for when your 9v9 teams breaks apart for girls to play with boys. Keeping it overly simple for the novices who are clearly here to get some advice. Stop caring about the tournament results if you’re at a small club, you’ll never be satisfied if that is the goal

There is a difference between caring about results and caring about the quality of competition that they are playing. If you go from top bracket at big tournaments to mid bracket at local tournaments, the quality goes down. As far as playing with boys, my daughter likes the social aspect of sports, so that would be a non-starter assuming that the club would be ok with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes this is why I recommended staying as long as humanly possible, also provided the exception to that in same post. And a third strategy for when your 9v9 teams breaks apart for girls to play with boys. Keeping it overly simple for the novices who are clearly here to get some advice. Stop caring about the tournament results if you’re at a small club, you’ll never be satisfied if that is the goal

My advice for novices would be the advice DD's coach gave her. Stay local until U13 and then play for the best team that you can at U13.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes, I do have a player at a small club. I also have an older player that stayed at the small club longer for training. He had no problem moving to a top club when he wanted to and got a starting spot.

The level of training depends on the club and coach. Ours was worth staying for the training even if the competition and other players weren't as strong as the bigger club.

The level of training depends on the players they are training with. When you merge an A and a B team, that level drops

Not true in our experience. The A and B teams didn't have to merge either. A good coach can still have a beneficial training environment for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Nope ECNL starter since u13, so maybe if you think your DD is a real player just read and STFU 😘

Depending on the club and age, that could mean absolutely nothing. Some of the ECNL girls clubs in the area really aren't that competitive. But be proud mama bear!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You want a response so won't wastey your time with a question in response.

- Stay at your local club as long as long humanly possible or until they are 15/16 where I assume they are thriving currently, otherwise not sure why you would be seeking development advice for 10 and 11 years olds.

- Stay away from the big clubs, unless you are already there and are comfortabley in the elite 3 players on the team. You know if you are, if you aren't sure, you are not.

- Play with boys, until there is a consistent threat of injury. This is different for every girl because of mentality, physicality and team's style of play, you'll know when its not worth it anymore or even better your DD will tell you.

Good luck and always be your kid's biggest cheerleader, let everyone else critique her game.

As someone whose kid came up through I small club, I could not disagree more. The easiest jump from an EDP club to an ECNL or GA club is U13. That is the most open try outs will ever be. Only make the move if you get the ECNL/GA offer, but do not stick around if you do. Other girls will be making that move and as they do, the quality of the original team will go down. This affects training and the level of competition the team can play. You also have the problem of a small club's ability to field multiple teams when it becomes 11x11. At DD's former club, there was a very strong premier team and a very weak B team. At U13, they were forced to combine the teams both because neither had a roster large enough to support 11x11 and because girls were leaving for ECNL. The team went from winning EDP2 and regularly doing well in high brackets of good tournaments to being continually demoted and doing local only tournaments.

You don’t get it

+1 this is likely from the perspective of an average player. Top players move when they want and will get a starting spot.

Have your kids every played for a small club? The quality of the teams, including the training, dips at U13. They don't have enough players to field two teams so the quality of practice goes down, the quality of play goes down, and they quality of the leagues and tournaments that they play in goes down.

Yes, I do have a player at a small club. I also have an older player that stayed at the small club longer for training. He had no problem moving to a top club when he wanted to and got a starting spot.

The level of training depends on the club and coach. Ours was worth staying for the training even if the competition and other players weren't as strong as the bigger club.

The level of training depends on the players they are training with. When you merge an A and a B team, that level drops

Not true in our experience. The A and B teams didn't have to merge either. A good coach can still have a beneficial training environment for all.

If you're club can fields multiple teams at all ages past U13, it probably isn't a small club