Is Oppenheimer the most overhyped, overrated movie of all time?

[Anonymous]

I feel that way about Barbie.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.

Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.

Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.

Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.

Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.

But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.

That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it was ok. I'm sour on it because the movie set in a war made for men that came out at the same time as the movie made for women and somehow underperformed the movie made for women swept the oscars while the movie made for women by women was almost shut out

Well, stuff happens at the Oscars. A lot of critics I respect preferred Barbie to Oppenheimer. I think it’s just a lot harder for a more comedic movie to win Best Picture than more serious historic pieces. Oscar-bait is a thing. But let’s be real: Barbie was a massive commercial hit that was, as far as I can tell, universally praised by critics and audiences alike as a work of art. No reason to hate on Oppenheimer though.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel that way about Barbie.

Barbie was definitely overhyped and overrated.

America’s speech was the most basic, stereotypical diatribe ever recorded on film, yet the media told us it was brave and groundbreaking.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.

Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.

Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.

Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.

Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.

But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.

That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.

The media was hyping Barbie in the exact same way. Also overrated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.

Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.

Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.

Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.

Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.

But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.

That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.

Also, pre-release hype is insufficient to create commercial success. Many such movies are rejected by the audience and bomb.

[Anonymous]

Talk about trying to make fetch happen:

Have you seen the trailer for Fall Guy with Gosling and Blunt? (ICYMI: that’s why they were paired to present together at the Oscar’s.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Title says it all.

I’ve heard several people say this. Is it true?

I thought it was superb and well deserving of the Oscar for best picture.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.

Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.

Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.

Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.

Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.

But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.

That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.

Also, pre-release hype is insufficient to create commercial success. Many such movies are rejected by the audience and bomb.

Not when the media continues to tell us it’s a hit.

The actors in the film were all over the tv promoting it, and all the hosts fawned over them and the film—calling it a masterpiece.

[Anonymous]

It was a solid movie, but too long, surprised editing got an award actually. And it was so political and a bit dry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.

Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.

Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.

Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.

Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.

But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.

That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.

The media was hyping Barbie in the exact same way. Also overrated?

Absolutely!

Barbie was a campy movie that was a bit too long and preachy. By the end of the movie, I thought Barbie was a self-centered jerk who treated Ken like trash. And I’m feminist.

[Anonymous]

I saw it on the airplane and wasn't even aware of the hype. Ciliam Murphy, Robert Downey Jr., Matt Damon all oscar-worthy performances. And it was serious subject, something worth thinking about, unlike something like Barbie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely not. There are other movies that are way more overhyped than Oppenheimer. Hell look at some past best picture winners- some are terrible. Oppenheimer is not terrible at all.

Overhyped and overrated doesn’t mean terrible.

Rather, it means it received so much attention/publicity it didn’t deserve thanks to immediate (even prerelease) acclaim that wasn’t deserved.

Hollywood is really good at making fetch happen.

Think of all the not so handsome actors who were forced upon us as leading men.

But what’s the anti-Oppenheimer case? The consensus, with which I happen to agree, is that it was very well acted, beautifully shot, etc. Did you not like Downey’s performance, which seemed to me excellent after years of Tony Stark? Emily Blount didn’t do it for you? I thought she was amazing. There are certainly legitimate critiques: it is a bit talky in places, and the choice to focus on the administrative process about his security clearance later in the film was surely not everyone’s cup of tea. Although it’s pretty impressive that this kind of movie was such a commercial success as well. Perfectly reasonable to not like it or to think that there were better films this year, but the praise Oppenheimer got was reasonably well deserved and hardly a pathological example of overhype IMO.

That’s the point: it was a commercial success because of the hype. The media was hyping it before it was released. But many/most people left the theater thinking it was way too long and had roughly an hour of unnecessary content. Hence, overrated.

The media was hyping Barbie in the exact same way. Also overrated?

Absolutely!

Barbie was a campy movie that was a bit too long and preachy. By the end of the movie, I thought Barbie was a self-centered jerk who treated Ken like trash. And I’m feminist.

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Did not like Barbie's message

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was a solid movie, but too long, surprised editing got an award actually. And it was so political and a bit dry.

Yes, quite dry and too long. Vanity piece for Nolan. Cillian Murphy bails him out yet again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently there are tons of threads on Reddit along with countless legit movie reviews calling Oppenheimer overhyped and overrated.

One review called it a chaotic assortment of vignettes, noting the Florence Pugh bit was unnecessary.

I think this is exactly right, particularly in the first half of the movie. i don't know if it's the editing or the directing, but it didn't feel like there were any scenes that were allowed to play out. Just a bunch of quick cut mini-scenes. It felt like a really long movie trailer at first and it drove me nuts.