New: Boundary Studies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest in the boundary studies? No more CAP at Blair when Woodward opens? Which ES boundaries are expected to change. Please post info or link to recent updates.

There are no recent updates. The latest timeline has Woodward opening in Fall 2027, and the boundary study happening in 2026. Currently there are no elementary schools included in the scope, only middle and high schools.

Woodward is where CAP is headed. One of the reasons that Woodward's reopening was green-lighted was to relieve chronic overcrowding in the DCC, not just pacify westside parents concerned with a few portables at Walter Johnson. (That would have looked too unfair, right?)

Blair is overenrolled and one way to relieve its overcrowding is to take a reliably consistent number of students (CAP cohorts = 75 students per year) and move it to Woodward, once Woodward reopens.

A faux study will be conducted to determine if this is a good idea, but it will turn out to be a good idea.

Takoma Park parents, you better start organizing now - maybe if you push really hard for a persistent amount of time, you can change things.

Here's a link referencing the issue. Don't let the word salad injection about Northwood HS overcrowding deceive you. How would you pull a cohort from any of the DCC HS geographical catchment areas to attend Woodward? You couldn't guarantee the numbers. It's going to be Blair's CAP:

https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/burtonsville-elementary-to-relocate-woodward-high-opening-planned-for-2026-school-board-says/#:~:text=Woodward%20High%20School.,schools%20in%20the%20Downcounty%20Consortium.

The school board then discussed the boundary scope for the reopening of Charles W. Woodward High School. Funds were approved to reopen the school to address crowding at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda and high schools in the Downcounty Consortium.

“This [project] is related to not only the opening of the new Woodward, which is currently under construction, but also the rebuilding and expansion of Northwood [High School]. So, with that added capacity, it is necessitating the need to go through a boundary study process,” Adams said.

Funds were also approved for a facility upgrade and expansion of Silver Spring’s Northwood High School.

Again, other than your interpretation, what’s the evidence moving CAP is under consideration? Is there anything in the minutes of a school board meeting, for instance?

The linked article only discusses boundary studies, with no mention of special programs—which. as a PP correctly noted—are not part of the boundary study’s parameters.

[Anonymous]

Why not 2 CAPs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not 2 CAPs?

Sure. They could create another CAP program at any time they decide to, and it wouldn't have anything to do with a boundary study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're going to send all the Takoma Park people into a frenzy with these plans to move CAP over to Woodward!

Other than DCUM posts, what's the evidence the move is/was planned?

There isn’t. It’s speculation from a single outsider who keeps repeating it and insisting it’s a done deal.

[Anonymous]

Poster not outside

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest in the boundary studies? No more CAP at Blair when Woodward opens? Which ES boundaries are expected to change. Please post info or link to recent updates.

There are no recent updates. The latest timeline has Woodward opening in Fall 2027, and the boundary study happening in 2026. Currently there are no elementary schools included in the scope, only middle and high schools.

Woodward is where CAP is headed. One of the reasons that Woodward's reopening was green-lighted was to relieve chronic overcrowding in the DCC, not just pacify westside parents concerned with a few portables at Walter Johnson. (That would have looked too unfair, right?)

Blair is overenrolled and one way to relieve its overcrowding is to take a reliably consistent number of students (CAP cohorts = 75 students per year) and move it to Woodward, once Woodward reopens.

A faux study will be conducted to determine if this is a good idea, but it will turn out to be a good idea.

Takoma Park parents, you better start organizing now - maybe if you push really hard for a persistent amount of time, you can change things.

Here's a link referencing the issue. Don't let the word salad injection about Northwood HS overcrowding deceive you. How would you pull a cohort from any of the DCC HS geographical catchment areas to attend Woodward? You couldn't guarantee the numbers. It's going to be Blair's CAP:

https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/burtonsville-elementary-to-relocate-woodward-high-opening-planned-for-2026-school-board-says/#:~:text=Woodward%20High%20School.,schools%20in%20the%20Downcounty%20Consortium.

The school board then discussed the boundary scope for the reopening of Charles W. Woodward High School. Funds were approved to reopen the school to address crowding at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda and high schools in the Downcounty Consortium.

“This [project] is related to not only the opening of the new Woodward, which is currently under construction, but also the rebuilding and expansion of Northwood [High School]. So, with that added capacity, it is necessitating the need to go through a boundary study process,” Adams said.

Funds were also approved for a facility upgrade and expansion of Silver Spring’s Northwood High School.

Again, other than your interpretation, what’s the evidence moving CAP is under consideration? Is there anything in the minutes of a school board meeting, for instance?

The linked article only discusses boundary studies, with no mention of special programs—which. as a PP correctly noted—are not part of the boundary study’s parameters.

Well, I don't have any real evidence but I've always wanted my kids to go to CAP and we're not in the DCC so I was hoping they'd move it to Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Why not move SMCS to Woodward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest in the boundary studies? No more CAP at Blair when Woodward opens? Which ES boundaries are expected to change. Please post info or link to recent updates.

There are no recent updates. The latest timeline has Woodward opening in Fall 2027, and the boundary study happening in 2026. Currently there are no elementary schools included in the scope, only middle and high schools.

Woodward is where CAP is headed. One of the reasons that Woodward's reopening was green-lighted was to relieve chronic overcrowding in the DCC, not just pacify westside parents concerned with a few portables at Walter Johnson. (That would have looked too unfair, right?)

Blair is overenrolled and one way to relieve its overcrowding is to take a reliably consistent number of students (CAP cohorts = 75 students per year) and move it to Woodward, once Woodward reopens.

A faux study will be conducted to determine if this is a good idea, but it will turn out to be a good idea.

Takoma Park parents, you better start organizing now - maybe if you push really hard for a persistent amount of time, you can change things.

Here's a link referencing the issue. Don't let the word salad injection about Northwood HS overcrowding deceive you. How would you pull a cohort from any of the DCC HS geographical catchment areas to attend Woodward? You couldn't guarantee the numbers. It's going to be Blair's CAP:

https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/burtonsville-elementary-to-relocate-woodward-high-opening-planned-for-2026-school-board-says/#:~:text=Woodward%20High%20School.,schools%20in%20the%20Downcounty%20Consortium.

The school board then discussed the boundary scope for the reopening of Charles W. Woodward High School. Funds were approved to reopen the school to address crowding at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda and high schools in the Downcounty Consortium.

“This [project] is related to not only the opening of the new Woodward, which is currently under construction, but also the rebuilding and expansion of Northwood [High School]. So, with that added capacity, it is necessitating the need to go through a boundary study process,” Adams said.

Funds were also approved for a facility upgrade and expansion of Silver Spring’s Northwood High School.

Again, other than your interpretation, what’s the evidence moving CAP is under consideration? Is there anything in the minutes of a school board meeting, for instance?

The linked article only discusses boundary studies, with no mention of special programs—which. as a PP correctly noted—are not part of the boundary study’s parameters.

DP. The PP made it up out of a desire to monger rumors anonymously on the internet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest in the boundary studies? No more CAP at Blair when Woodward opens? Which ES boundaries are expected to change. Please post info or link to recent updates.

There are no recent updates. The latest timeline has Woodward opening in Fall 2027, and the boundary study happening in 2026. Currently there are no elementary schools included in the scope, only middle and high schools.

Woodward is where CAP is headed. One of the reasons that Woodward's reopening was green-lighted was to relieve chronic overcrowding in the DCC, not just pacify westside parents concerned with a few portables at Walter Johnson. (That would have looked too unfair, right?)

Blair is overenrolled and one way to relieve its overcrowding is to take a reliably consistent number of students (CAP cohorts = 75 students per year) and move it to Woodward, once Woodward reopens.

A faux study will be conducted to determine if this is a good idea, but it will turn out to be a good idea.

Takoma Park parents, you better start organizing now - maybe if you push really hard for a persistent amount of time, you can change things.

Here's a link referencing the issue. Don't let the word salad injection about Northwood HS overcrowding deceive you. How would you pull a cohort from any of the DCC HS geographical catchment areas to attend Woodward? You couldn't guarantee the numbers. It's going to be Blair's CAP:

https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/burtonsville-elementary-to-relocate-woodward-high-opening-planned-for-2026-school-board-says/#:~:text=Woodward%20High%20School.,schools%20in%20the%20Downcounty%20Consortium.

The school board then discussed the boundary scope for the reopening of Charles W. Woodward High School. Funds were approved to reopen the school to address crowding at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda and high schools in the Downcounty Consortium.

“This [project] is related to not only the opening of the new Woodward, which is currently under construction, but also the rebuilding and expansion of Northwood [High School]. So, with that added capacity, it is necessitating the need to go through a boundary study process,” Adams said.

Funds were also approved for a facility upgrade and expansion of Silver Spring’s Northwood High School.

Again, other than your interpretation, what’s the evidence moving CAP is under consideration? Is there anything in the minutes of a school board meeting, for instance?

The linked article only discusses boundary studies, with no mention of special programs—which. as a PP correctly noted—are not part of the boundary study’s parameters.

There are no school board minutes because the BOE doesn't have minutes. For anything. It's pretty atrocious. The BOE and MCPS enjoy the lack of accountability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not move SMCS to Woodward?

+1. If we're just wildly speculating this makes way more sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest in the boundary studies? No more CAP at Blair when Woodward opens? Which ES boundaries are expected to change. Please post info or link to recent updates.

There are no recent updates. The latest timeline has Woodward opening in Fall 2027, and the boundary study happening in 2026. Currently there are no elementary schools included in the scope, only middle and high schools.

Woodward is where CAP is headed. One of the reasons that Woodward's reopening was green-lighted was to relieve chronic overcrowding in the DCC, not just pacify westside parents concerned with a few portables at Walter Johnson. (That would have looked too unfair, right?)

Blair is overenrolled and one way to relieve its overcrowding is to take a reliably consistent number of students (CAP cohorts = 75 students per year) and move it to Woodward, once Woodward reopens.

A faux study will be conducted to determine if this is a good idea, but it will turn out to be a good idea.

Takoma Park parents, you better start organizing now - maybe if you push really hard for a persistent amount of time, you can change things.

Here's a link referencing the issue. Don't let the word salad injection about Northwood HS overcrowding deceive you. How would you pull a cohort from any of the DCC HS geographical catchment areas to attend Woodward? You couldn't guarantee the numbers. It's going to be Blair's CAP:

https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/burtonsville-elementary-to-relocate-woodward-high-opening-planned-for-2026-school-board-says/#:~:text=Woodward%20High%20School.,schools%20in%20the%20Downcounty%20Consortium.

The school board then discussed the boundary scope for the reopening of Charles W. Woodward High School. Funds were approved to reopen the school to address crowding at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda and high schools in the Downcounty Consortium.

“This [project] is related to not only the opening of the new Woodward, which is currently under construction, but also the rebuilding and expansion of Northwood [High School]. So, with that added capacity, it is necessitating the need to go through a boundary study process,” Adams said.

Funds were also approved for a facility upgrade and expansion of Silver Spring’s Northwood High School.

Again, other than your interpretation, what’s the evidence moving CAP is under consideration? Is there anything in the minutes of a school board meeting, for instance?

The linked article only discusses boundary studies, with no mention of special programs—which. as a PP correctly noted—are not part of the boundary study’s parameters.

There are no school board minutes because the BOE doesn't have minutes. For anything. It's pretty atrocious. The BOE and MCPS enjoy the lack of accountability.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/minutes-and-agendas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the latest in the boundary studies? No more CAP at Blair when Woodward opens? Which ES boundaries are expected to change. Please post info or link to recent updates.

There are no recent updates. The latest timeline has Woodward opening in Fall 2027, and the boundary study happening in 2026. Currently there are no elementary schools included in the scope, only middle and high schools.

Woodward is where CAP is headed. One of the reasons that Woodward's reopening was green-lighted was to relieve chronic overcrowding in the DCC, not just pacify westside parents concerned with a few portables at Walter Johnson. (That would have looked too unfair, right?)

Blair is overenrolled and one way to relieve its overcrowding is to take a reliably consistent number of students (CAP cohorts = 75 students per year) and move it to Woodward, once Woodward reopens.

A faux study will be conducted to determine if this is a good idea, but it will turn out to be a good idea.

Takoma Park parents, you better start organizing now - maybe if you push really hard for a persistent amount of time, you can change things.

Here's a link referencing the issue. Don't let the word salad injection about Northwood HS overcrowding deceive you. How would you pull a cohort from any of the DCC HS geographical catchment areas to attend Woodward? You couldn't guarantee the numbers. It's going to be Blair's CAP:

https://moco360.media/2023/02/28/burtonsville-elementary-to-relocate-woodward-high-opening-planned-for-2026-school-board-says/#:~:text=Woodward%20High%20School.,schools%20in%20the%20Downcounty%20Consortium.

The school board then discussed the boundary scope for the reopening of Charles W. Woodward High School. Funds were approved to reopen the school to address crowding at Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda and high schools in the Downcounty Consortium.

“This [project] is related to not only the opening of the new Woodward, which is currently under construction, but also the rebuilding and expansion of Northwood [High School]. So, with that added capacity, it is necessitating the need to go through a boundary study process,” Adams said.

Funds were also approved for a facility upgrade and expansion of Silver Spring’s Northwood High School.

Again, other than your interpretation, what’s the evidence moving CAP is under consideration? Is there anything in the minutes of a school board meeting, for instance?

The linked article only discusses boundary studies, with no mention of special programs—which. as a PP correctly noted—are not part of the boundary study’s parameters.

There are no school board minutes because the BOE doesn't have minutes. For anything. It's pretty atrocious. The BOE and MCPS enjoy the lack of accountability.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/minutes-and-agendas

back at ya

"All minutes and agenda documents are available as PDFs": except they aren't

"Search" function: non-functional -- literally a link back to the minutes-and-agendas page

"Minutes": undetailed/uninformative, when posted, and pretty much might as well be go look through the meeting video, yourself, with the standard disclaimer --

"The video/audio recordings of the Board of Education hearing are the official record of the hearing and can be viewed at: https://mcpsmd.new.swagit.com/videos/[video number].

The following summary is for informational purposes only. If there is any discrepancy between the video and this summary, the video, which constitutes the minutes of the meeting, shall control. Other matters addressed by or discussed during the hearing are available in the video/audio recordings."

Availability: not timely --

"Approved minutes for Board of Education meetings may not be readily available on this site due to the time involved in their preparation. Summaries of actions taken at recent meetings are available under Public Announcements or via the Past Meeting Viewer.

To obtain minutes of recent meetings, please contact the Board of Education Office at [phone]."

That one BOE admin is furiously transcribing for every call that comes in. No? They are pointing folks back to the website/videos as the official minutes? Oh...

They have the closed captioning, but can't post that as a separate file to let folks search the text, themselves? Aw, shucks...

And those MCPS slide presentations? Half of them (usually the ones folks want) are "oral discussion" and aren't posted with the agenda? Darn...

And the follow-ups/"informational summaries" that MCPS is supposed to provide the BOE the few times they ask an incisive question and are told, "We'll get back to you on that"? They aren't meaningfully or intuitively linked, only mentioned as having been provided? Drat...

Now, go find us an MCPS link where the average citizen can specify a time-frame, input "boundary study" and read through the text (or even get a set of links to watch only relevant portions of videos) of all BOE discussions on the matter.

And pull up all associated MCPS communications/presentations to the BOE in downloadable, word-searchable and copy/paste-able form without a login restriction.

Then feel free to roll your eyes again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not move SMCS to Woodward?

Nobody wants that. They need to fix boundaries. Do not play games with these programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not move SMCS to Woodward?

Nobody wants that. They need to fix boundaries. Do not play games with these programs.

Fix boundaries? How so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not move SMCS to Woodward?

Nobody wants that. They need to fix boundaries. Do not play games with these programs.

Fix boundaries? How so?

Make them more equitable