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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

There have been many, many meetings and many opportunities for input. And they are considering the effects -- just on lots of communities, not just yours.

Many, many public meetings? About this boundary change? OP just found out about it last week and the Eaton community just last month and with no publicized follow up meeting to address our concerns.

I agree that the conversation about school size and boundaries needs to be had in many, many public meeting and with many opportunities for input on how the proposed changes affect all communities. Please let us know when these meeting are occurring.

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Anonymous wrote:The last time there was rezoning the final phase took over six years to go into effect. That being said in 6 years your child will just be ending elementary. There are no guarantees in K that you can be sure of HS placement.

That’s ridiculous. Families should have certainty when becoming a part of a system that the rules aren’t going to change.

Eaton and Hardy are great, but they’re really far and I would have made different choices if I was planning to send my kids there.

No, families should understand that in the US, governments shift the boundaries of public neighborhood schools on a regular basis. Buying a house on a certain street is never a guarantee of a certain school eight or ten years down the line. In many other jurisdictions, kids change schools the next year - no grandfathering.

Yup. I have friends in Arlington who had kids at two different elementary schools because of redistricting. And ESs fed multiple MSs, meaning the younger one who switched ESs then had to go to an MS with kids mostly from the old ES because very few kids from the new ES fed there.

DCPS is extremely generous with its transitions, allowance for siblings to stay together, etc.

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DC definitely allows people to treat these boundaries like property, to the detriment of its school system.

I firmly believe that if DC just had the guts to redistribute the lines, we would have schools with large numbers of high-income families at Jackson Reed, Macarthur, and Roosevelt. That we do not just shows how ossified and short-sighted our small-city politics are.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

There have been many, many meetings and many opportunities for input. And they are considering the effects -- just on lots of communities, not just yours.

Many, many public meetings? About this boundary change? OP just found out about it last week and the Eaton community just last month and with no publicized follow up meeting to address our concerns.

I agree that the conversation about school size and boundaries needs to be had in many, many public meeting and with many opportunities for input on how the proposed changes affect all communities. Please let us know when these meeting are occurring.

If you can use your computer to get to this website, you can use your computer to get to the boundary study website and look up the town halls.

https://dme.dc.gov/boundaries2023

This has been in the news since last year:

https://dcist.com/story/23/03/21/dc-kicks-off-once-a-decade-process-to-redraw-school-boundaries/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/30/dc-school-boundary-study/

It takes just paying even a half second of attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The last time there was rezoning the final phase took over six years to go into effect. That being said in 6 years your child will just be ending elementary. There are no guarantees in K that you can be sure of HS placement.

That’s ridiculous. Families should have certainty when becoming a part of a system that the rules aren’t going to change.

The new paradigm is that boundaries will be reassessed every 10 years.
This was put into law in 2013/14:

"As part of the process in 2013 and 2014, city officials recommended boundaries be revisited regularly on a 10-year schedule. That’s similar to the redistricting process that follows the decennial U.S. Census, when ward and Advisory Neighborhood Commission boundaries are redrawn to reflect shifts in the city’s population."

https://dcist.com/story/23/03/21/dc-kicks-off-once-a-decade-process-to-redraw-school-boundaries/

With this cadence, the boundary studies should take place in years ending in '3' (e.g., 2013, 2023, 2033...) going forward. Proposed changes are submitted to the Mayor in the winter of 2023-24 SY (soon).

Since the lottery for SY 24-25 opened in December, they are allowing SY 24-25 to be the 'old'/current boundaries. Boundaries take effect in 2025-26.

So, you can assume "new" boundaries are in effect for years ending in XXX5-XXX6 going forward. Make plans accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

There have been many, many meetings and many opportunities for input. And they are considering the effects -- just on lots of communities, not just yours.

Many, many public meetings? About this boundary change? OP just found out about it last week and the Eaton community just last month and with no publicized follow up meeting to address our concerns.

I agree that the conversation about school size and boundaries needs to be had in many, many public meeting and with many opportunities for input on how the proposed changes affect all communities. Please let us know when these meeting are occurring.

If you can use your computer to get to this website, you can use your computer to get to the boundary study website and look up the town halls.

https://dme.dc.gov/boundaries2023

This has been in the news since last year:

https://dcist.com/story/23/03/21/dc-kicks-off-once-a-decade-process-to-redraw-school-boundaries/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/30/dc-school-boundary-study/

It takes just paying even a half second of attention.

I’m talking about this particular boundary issue, which, to my recollection, wasn’t addresses at those meetings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

There have been many, many meetings and many opportunities for input. And they are considering the effects -- just on lots of communities, not just yours.

Many, many public meetings? About this boundary change? OP just found out about it last week and the Eaton community just last month and with no publicized follow up meeting to address our concerns.

I agree that the conversation about school size and boundaries needs to be had in many, many public meeting and with many opportunities for input on how the proposed changes affect all communities. Please let us know when these meeting are occurring.

If you can use your computer to get to this website, you can use your computer to get to the boundary study website and look up the town halls.

https://dme.dc.gov/boundaries2023

This has been in the news since last year:

https://dcist.com/story/23/03/21/dc-kicks-off-once-a-decade-process-to-redraw-school-boundaries/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/30/dc-school-boundary-study/

It takes just paying even a half second of attention.

I’m talking about this particular boundary issue, which, to my recollection, wasn’t addresses at those meetings.

Oyster-Adams EC
Tuesday, January 23 at 6:00 p.m. This meeting will be in person at 2501 11th Street NW, Washington, DC 20001. Register to attend here: https://forms.office.com/g/eiVJeCcvw6.

https://dme.dc.gov/node/1688576

[Anonymous]

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I’m talking about this particular boundary issue, which, to my recollection, wasn’t addresses at those meetings.

There is also the December Town Hall where it was discussed:

https://dme.dc.gov/page/dc-public-education-boundary-and-student-assignment-study-2023-town-halls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is still a proposal so you can continue to advocate. And there is a process that has been underway for over a year with lots of opportunities for engagement input. I agree these rezoning projects are excrutiating. But it isn’t true that there isn’t opportunity for input. They have run all sorts of outreach programs. You can also engage through your school community, ANC, and the mayors office team running the project, the deputy mayor, your counsel person.

This. There have been DOZENS of meetings, emails, tweets, texts....

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

Evidence?? I am also an Eaton parent. I am not opposed to this proposal. Boundaries shift. If significant portions of the new IB population enroll, it will just change the IB percentages, not increase enrollment overall. Eaton already has OOB students. It just may have fewer going forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

Evidence?? I am also an Eaton parent. I am not opposed to this proposal. Boundaries shift. If significant portions of the new IB population enroll, it will just change the IB percentages, not increase enrollment overall. Eaton already has OOB students. It just may have fewer going forward.

LOL. Of course it will have just as many OOB students. Like before renovations, when the school was packed full but still let in a solid amount of OOB.

As one of the most southeastern among the upper NW elementaries, Central loves to funnel OOB into Eaton. And, traditionally, the Eaton principal complies.

That's why we left Eaton--class sizes of 25-26 for my kids, which the principal was fine with because he prioritized conciliation of Central and diversity, even though the large classes were a negative for all kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as loop to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

Evidence?? I am also an Eaton parent. I am not opposed to this proposal. Boundaries shift. If significant portions of the new IB population enroll, it will just change the IB percentages, not increase enrollment overall. Eaton already has OOB students. It just may have fewer going forward.

LOL. Of course it will have just as many OOB students. Like before renovations, when the school was packed full but still let in a solid amount of OOB.

As one of the most southeastern among the upper NW elementaries, Central loves to funnel OOB into Eaton. And, traditionally, the Eaton principal complies.

That's why we left Eaton--class sizes of 25-26 for my kids, which the principal was fine with because he prioritized conciliation of Central and diversity, even though the large classes were a negative for all kids.

We have never had a class larger than 23 students.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as loop to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

Evidence?? I am also an Eaton parent. I am not opposed to this proposal. Boundaries shift. If significant portions of the new IB population enroll, it will just change the IB percentages, not increase enrollment overall. Eaton already has OOB students. It just may have fewer going forward.

LOL. Of course it will have just as many OOB students. Like before renovations, when the school was packed full but still let in a solid amount of OOB.

As one of the most southeastern among the upper NW elementaries, Central loves to funnel OOB into Eaton. And, traditionally, the Eaton principal complies.

That's why we left Eaton--class sizes of 25-26 for my kids, which the principal was fine with because he prioritized conciliation of Central and diversity, even though the large classes were a negative for all kids.

We have never had a class larger than 23 students.

You were lucky.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve looked through some posts, but it seems unclear about this boundary process. Right now, our home would be rezoned to Eaton - Hardy - MacArthur from Oyster Adams to Jackson Reed. Does anyone know if this will change feeder rights to Jackson Reed after 8th grade for a student in kinder now? How can the district take this on with no transparency whatsoever? I found out about a meeting last week and a recommendation for upending families lives is being made without any input?!

You’re getting an upgrade. Relax.

How so?

John Eaton is a fantastic school, Hardy is a really great middle school with excellent new leadership and MacArthur is predicted to be way, way better than JR, especially by the time it has any relevance to your family.

Eaton is absolutely a fantastic school but there are many of us Eaton families who oppose this proposal. OP is correct that the decision is being made without input from the school communities or really much thought as loop to the ripple effects. All they are doing is shifting students from one overcrowded school to a school that will immediately become overcrowded.

Evidence?? I am also an Eaton parent. I am not opposed to this proposal. Boundaries shift. If significant portions of the new IB population enroll, it will just change the IB percentages, not increase enrollment overall. Eaton already has OOB students. It just may have fewer going forward.

LOL. Of course it will have just as many OOB students. Like before renovations, when the school was packed full but still let in a solid amount of OOB.

As one of the most southeastern among the upper NW elementaries, Central loves to funnel OOB into Eaton. And, traditionally, the Eaton principal complies.

That's why we left Eaton--class sizes of 25-26 for my kids, which the principal was fine with because he prioritized conciliation of Central and diversity, even though the large classes were a negative for all kids.

We have never had a class larger than 23 students.

You were lucky.

Very lucky. My child’s class this year has 27. It’s chaos. I’ve had kids at Eaton for over 10 years and other than Prek/k the only year any of my children have had less than 25 in a class has been 5th grade. I mean, one of my kids had 18 kids squished into what used to be a closet for prek. They will inevitably allow it to happen again.