Bullying reporting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Admin will probably talk with the students involved, if the word bullying was explicitly used. If that word wasn’t used, they may not even be spoken to. Other than that, nothing happens.

OP: word "bullying" was used.

OP, was this ES, MS, or HS?

HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Restorative Justice circles are used at the elementary school. The kid that was bullied has to listen to some made-up story about why they were annoying to the bully and that’s why they bully them. Then the victim has to look in the bullies eyes and describe how they felt during all the bullying events. This part often re-victimizes the kid who was bullied. And, no punishment is given to the bully. The bully walks away laughing on the inside very satisfied that they so negatively hurt the victim. It can be scary and hurtful times two for the victim because they had suffered from many bullying events already.

I have no doubt that it is used in ES, but as far as wodespread usage in FCPS I haven’t seen it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative Justice circles are used at the elementary school. The kid that was bullied has to listen to some made-up story about why they were annoying to the bully and that’s why they bully them. Then the victim has to look in the bullies eyes and describe how they felt during all the bullying events. This part often re-victimizes the kid who was bullied. And, no punishment is given to the bully. The bully walks away laughing on the inside very satisfied that they so negatively hurt the victim. It can be scary and hurtful times two for the victim because they had suffered from many bullying events already.

I have no doubt that it is used in ES, but as far as wodespread usage in FCPS I haven’t seen it.

Not at any ES that I'm familiar with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

DP
ES Teacher here and I don’t really know what it is exactly. I was wondering if maybe this is a HS thing. I asked my MS teacher spouse about it and she said she thinks it is possibly used a little in MS. She also doesn’t know much about it because she has never used it.

Sounds like the PP is conjuring up a boogyman.

Sounds like a pair of teachers would at least have some clue what restorative justice means, considering it's used by FCPS. Here's that "boogeyman":

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

DP
ES Teacher here and I don’t really know what it is exactly. I was wondering if maybe this is a HS thing. I asked my MS teacher spouse about it and she said she thinks it is possibly used a little in MS. She also doesn’t know much about it because she has never used it.

Sounds like the PP is conjuring up a boogyman.

It is sometimes used in ES. The goal is to get the offender to understand the harm they cause and change. In practice, I believe it serves only to re-traumatize victims and leaves them feeling they have to forgive kids who’ve done nothing more than say they’re sorry.

Precisely this. It also allows the school to keep the bully and the victim in the same class, because in theory, the victim has "forgiven" the bully and the bully has "atoned," so you know - it's all good. The reality is exactly as you describe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Crickets, as expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

DP
ES Teacher here and I don’t really know what it is exactly. I was wondering if maybe this is a HS thing. I asked my MS teacher spouse about it and she said she thinks it is possibly used a little in MS. She also doesn’t know much about it because she has never used it.

Sounds like the PP is conjuring up a boogyman.

Sounds like a pair of teachers would at least have some clue what restorative justice means, considering it's used by FCPS. Here's that "boogeyman":

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Well, we don’t use it. Nobody we know of uses it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Crickets, as expected.

That chart explains what RJ is and gives the steps/guidelines administrators should follow when deciding if an incident should be referred to someone trained to provide the service.

Administrators in which schools are choosing to refer to this process?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Crickets, as expected.

That chart explains what RJ is and gives the steps/guidelines administrators should follow when deciding if an incident should be referred to someone trained to provide the service.

Administrators in which schools are choosing to refer to this process?

which ones are not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Crickets, as expected.

That chart explains what RJ is and gives the steps/guidelines administrators should follow when deciding if an incident should be referred to someone trained to provide the service.

Administrators in which schools are choosing to refer to this process?

In the ES schools that I know of, RJ is not used according to the precise description and practices. Let’s call what they use RJ-lite. They get the offender and victim together to talk. They each share their perspective and feelings. One “apologizes”, the other “accepts” (not forced, but it’s understood even to the most obtuse child what is expected). And then nothing changes. This all circumvents reporting in SIS and there is no data that can be tracked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

DP
ES Teacher here and I don’t really know what it is exactly. I was wondering if maybe this is a HS thing. I asked my MS teacher spouse about it and she said she thinks it is possibly used a little in MS. She also doesn’t know much about it because she has never used it.

Sounds like the PP is conjuring up a boogyman.

Sounds like a pair of teachers would at least have some clue what restorative justice means, considering it's used by FCPS. Here's that "boogeyman":

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Well, we don’t use it. Nobody we know of uses it.

Whether YOU use it or not, when are you going to acknowledge that the PP wasn't "conjuring up a boogeyman"? This is actually FCPS policy, not some made-up notion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Crickets, as expected.

That chart explains what RJ is and gives the steps/guidelines administrators should follow when deciding if an incident should be referred to someone trained to provide the service.

Administrators in which schools are choosing to refer to this process?

So now you're moving the goalposts? First you - or some other PP - made the totally idiotic and false assertion, bolded above. Now, after being proven completely wrong, you're trying to save face by requiring proof of which schools are going through the referral process? As discipline is typically a private matter, no one except the parties involved would be privy. The point being, this is the discipline model FCPS is using. It is very clear from the link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice. It's all the rage.

what does this even mean?

It means the PP is a cynic and being sardonic. PP probably blathers on about DEI and thinks CRT is being taught in schools, too.

I'm that PP. So you're denying that FCPS uses Restorative Justice? Somehow I thought you would. Here, educate yourself. I'll wait for you to come back and apologize.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/forms/RJInformationPacket.pdf#:~:text=Restorative%20Justice%20is%20a%20formal%20process%20facilitated%20by,used%20to%20address%20crimes%20within%20the%20justice%20system.

Crickets, as expected.

That chart explains what RJ is and gives the steps/guidelines administrators should follow when deciding if an incident should be referred to someone trained to provide the service.

Administrators in which schools are choosing to refer to this process?

which ones are not?

Exactly. Just because a teacher or two on this thread has never used it doesn't mean it's not being used by others.

[Anonymous]

AAP Program (SRO diversion): October 2014-June 2019
• 432 offenders were diverted to Restorative justice (AAP-Alternative Accountability Program) by school
resource officers(SROs) and other Fairfax County Police officers as an alternative to filing a juvenile
complaint.
• The AAP has a 10 precent recidivism rate which is significantly lower than traditional diversion programs.
Participant Satisfaction
At the conclusion of a restorative justice circle, participants are asked to fill out an evaluation on their experience. The
data below was collected over three school years from September 2016 to June 2019.
• 91 percent of students felt heard in the circle process
• 95 percent of parents were satisfied with the outcome
• 99 percent of FCPS staff felt that the RJ circle
process was fair
https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/RJInformationPacket.pdf

I have to laugh at the bolded, since it's well known that FCPS takes surveys and then simply disregards the results. I have no doubt that those numbers were totally fabricated.