US military aid appropriations

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Well we can see where this is going. If he combines Ukraine and Israel aid his speakership is over. Who is going to be the next speaker?

What will he choose?

I don’t see this swirling around the drain ever ending. Unless enough of the GOP House conference accepts that it needs to work with the Democratic Party.

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America’s support for courageous Ukrainians fighting the Russian invasion took two demoralizing blows in Congress last week. Newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson, together with former Speaker contender Rep. Jim Jordan, have consistently voted against continued military support for Ukraine, while robustly championing similar assistance to Israel. Then, in the immediate wake of Speaker Johnson’s election, four Republican senators announced their proposed resolution to decouple President Biden’s joint military assistance package to Israel and Ukraine, potentially leaving Kyiv out to dry.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4284038-decoupling-military-aid-for-israel-and-ukraine-would-be-a-grave-mistake/

House GOP proposal to link IRS cuts to Israel aid draws quick, bipartisan criticism
House Republicans are so far ignoring Biden's request to link the aid with hiring surges at immigration and border security agencies. House Republicans late Monday unveiled a plan to provide $14 billion to Israel while cutting an equal amount in planned spending on Internal Revenue Service enforcement that raises tax revenue, though by Tuesday lawmakers in both parties and chambers joined the administration in calling the plan inadequate.

https://www.govexec.com/management/2023/10/house-gop-proposal-link-irs-cuts-israel-aid-draws-quick-bipartisan-criticism/391659/

So no aid to Ukraine. We expected that even with Russian involvement in the Israel attack. Continuing aid to the Ukrainians is a bridge too far for republicans. So that is done. Any aid to Israel must be off set. The first proposal is to offset spending at the IRS. I think the money will eventually be pulled out of infrastructure spending. Taiwan gets nothing which is an open invitation to the Chinese. Specially with so many republicans saying Taiwan is not worth supporting.

So maybe some aid for Israel that is offset against current spending in the US. Wow if you are an ally of the US better go make nice with the Russians and the Chinese.

Is it too much to ask for the independent nation of Israel to defend itself on its own dime???? If I want to change my locks and i stall home security cameras in the home that I own, I do not ask someone else to pay for it. That is the price of home ownership. If I can't afford it, I should go back to renting in a building.

Do you have neighbors with AK-47's constantly threatening you and tossing live ammo at you?

Presumably PP’s kids did not move into the neighbor’s home trying to push the neighbor out room by room.

I think defending Israel is one thing (and must be done) but supporting the settlers and the grab of further Palestinian land in the West Bank (and Gaza) is a no. I doubt israel would be able to pay the super high costs of building and supporting the settlements and the military control of the WB without the financial and military help of the US.

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America’s support for courageous Ukrainians fighting the Russian invasion took two demoralizing blows in Congress last week. Newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson, together with former Speaker contender Rep. Jim Jordan, have consistently voted against continued military support for Ukraine, while robustly championing similar assistance to Israel. Then, in the immediate wake of Speaker Johnson’s election, four Republican senators announced their proposed resolution to decouple President Biden’s joint military assistance package to Israel and Ukraine, potentially leaving Kyiv out to dry.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4284038-decoupling-military-aid-for-israel-and-ukraine-would-be-a-grave-mistake/

House GOP proposal to link IRS cuts to Israel aid draws quick, bipartisan criticism
House Republicans are so far ignoring Biden's request to link the aid with hiring surges at immigration and border security agencies. House Republicans late Monday unveiled a plan to provide $14 billion to Israel while cutting an equal amount in planned spending on Internal Revenue Service enforcement that raises tax revenue, though by Tuesday lawmakers in both parties and chambers joined the administration in calling the plan inadequate.

https://www.govexec.com/management/2023/10/house-gop-proposal-link-irs-cuts-israel-aid-draws-quick-bipartisan-criticism/391659/

So no aid to Ukraine. We expected that even with Russian involvement in the Israel attack. Continuing aid to the Ukrainians is a bridge too far for republicans. So that is done. Any aid to Israel must be off set. The first proposal is to offset spending at the IRS. I think the money will eventually be pulled out of infrastructure spending. Taiwan gets nothing which is an open invitation to the Chinese. Specially with so many republicans saying Taiwan is not worth supporting.

So maybe some aid for Israel that is offset against current spending in the US. Wow if you are an ally of the US better go make nice with the Russians and the Chinese.

Is it too much to ask for the independent nation of Israel to defend itself on its own dime???? If I want to change my locks and i stall home security cameras in the home that I own, I do not ask someone else to pay for it. That is the price of home ownership. If I can't afford it, I should go back to renting in a building.

Do you have neighbors with AK-47's constantly threatening you and tossing live ammo at you?

Presumably PP’s kids did not move into the neighbor’s home trying to push the neighbor out room by room.

I think defending Israel is one thing (and must be done) but supporting the settlers and the grab of further Palestinian land in the West Bank (and Gaza) is a no. I doubt israel would be able to pay the super high costs of building and supporting the settlements and the military control of the WB without the financial and military help of the US.

No each iron dome missile only cost about $150k. They have used over 7,000 so far.

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But these Republicans have a different approach in mind. Instead of including reforms to the asylum process in an immigration deal, they’re effectively saying, “Give us the changes we want, or our Ukrainian allies will suffer.” The result, as a Washington Post report noted overnight, is that Ukraine funding is now “on life support.”

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-unveil-new-demand-exchange-ukraine-aid-rcna123978

It was nice to know you Ukraine. You can join all the others who trusted the US and then the republicans pull the plug- Afghanistan, Vietnam, Taiwan, NATO, Israel, etc.