Tenant won’t leave for inspection

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. It's perfectly acceptable. They do not have to leave and they have legitimate reasons to be there. They aren't interfering with anything. You ATA.

OP here: I get they have a lease and can stay but it’s just odd to me and annoying and even my agent said she’d never once had a tenant stay during an inspection. I’m just worried about a toddler getting in the way during it.

It's currently her house. It has her things in it, yes? Perhaps she doesn't want strangers in her house alone with her things. Maybe her work requires her to be at her home as part of her WFH deal. I mean, it doesn't matter, because the bottom line is that she lives there and you don't, so it's not up to you.

+1

OP, have you offered to accommodate the tenant and infant child during the 3 hour inspection ?

The tenant is right &, in her circumstances, reasonable as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no correlation between the tenant not wanting to vacate for the inspection, and the risk they might not vacate when their lease is over.

This working parent has her hands full with her job and her toddler, and it's probably extremely disruptive to take her child and leave for a few hours.

You are very rude to expect this of her, and accuse her of disturbing you. It's YOU who are disturbing HER. She is under no legal obligation to leave. When she is legally obligated to leave, I am sure she will do so.

How irritating that busy mothers of young children are always blamed for everything. I am annoyed at you and your agent.

Not trying to sound like an AH but my agent thought it was odd and I felt it was odd. My agent has been in this business for 15 years and said he’s never once had a tenant stay. Just seemed odd to me that they’d want to stay when we are talking a 2/3 hour inspection with 4 of us there.

You’re not in DC, right? Because that could be a nightmare. Getting tenants evicted takes a very long time.

People are being hard on you but I’m chalking this up to the ignorance of both you and your realtor. It is still the tenant’s home. They have no incentive to leave if it’s not convenient for them.

As for them not having housing two months out from move, that is concerning- I wish you great luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no correlation between the tenant not wanting to vacate for the inspection, and the risk they might not vacate when their lease is over.

This working parent has her hands full with her job and her toddler, and it's probably extremely disruptive to take her child and leave for a few hours.

You are very rude to expect this of her, and accuse her of disturbing you. It's YOU who are disturbing HER. She is under no legal obligation to leave. When she is legally obligated to leave, I am sure she will do so.

How irritating that busy mothers of young children are always blamed for everything. I am annoyed at you and your agent.

Not trying to sound like an AH but my agent thought it was odd and I felt it was odd. My agent has been in this business for 15 years and said he’s never once had a tenant stay. Just seemed odd to me that they’d want to stay when we are talking a 2/3 hour inspection with 4 of us there.

It is currently her home. She is obliged to provide access with reasonable notice, but she has all the right to be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is ATA?

Not PP but in the post above “You ATA” means “You are the a**hole.”

[Anonymous]

It’s her home and workplace. She doesn’t care what happens with the sale. Why should she be inconvenienced for this? I wouldn’t burn any of my PTO or find backup childcare for some stranger to buy a house.

And FWIW I wouldn’t ever buy a house with a tenant.

[Anonymous]

OP did you try to schedule the inspector to accommodate the tenant's schedule?

Your agent should have also told you that many sellers wait until a lease is up, the tenant has moved out, and then they fix up the house for sale.

[Anonymous]

It is the tenant's home so it is fine for her to stay. Did your agent ask what time would work for the tenant? That would have been a thoughtful thing to do.

I would be worried about buying a home with a tenant in place. How much notice did the seller give to the tenant?

I don't know why people are being hard on OP about buying a home, happens all the time. As a renter if you don't want to have to move due to someone buying the property rent from a rental company/ building that is all rental, etc. Staying just to stay is a jerk move, especially if you have been given ample notice. Landlords did not get any mortgage freeze like renters got from the government on paying rent during Covid. (Not a landlord)

[Anonymous]

She has no incentive to leave because she doesn't care whether the sale goes through or not. I think you're looking at it the wrong way, though. If you are friendly to her you might get the opportunity to chat. She can tell you about what is wrong with the house because she lives in it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you're looking at it the wrong way, though. If you are friendly to her you might get the opportunity to chat. She can tell you about what is wrong with the house because she lives in it!

Team this.

I would pump the tenant for information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP did you try to schedule the inspector to accommodate the tenant's schedule?

Your agent should have also told you that many sellers wait until a lease is up, the tenant has moved out, and then they fix up the house for sale.

OP here: yes we did. We were told between 9am-12pm or 3pm-5pm Thursday or Friday so we chose 3pm Thursday. I just didn’t realize that meant she’d be staying, we just assumed those were times she could be out of the home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the process of buying a house and our inspection is tomorrow at 3pm. The sellers agent just let my agent know that the tenant will be at the house during the showing. They have a young toddler and the mom works from home but still…I’m slightly annoyed about this. The tenant was there during our showing and did stay out of the way but is it not odd for a tenant to stay during a 2-3 hour inspection? Their lease is up 12/1 and we’ve been told they are actively seeking new housing but I’m just finding it odd that the seller isn’t telling them they have to be gone during it.

Wow. Main character syndrome. This has to be a troll.

Picturing being the tenant, with a young toddler being thrown out of your house and needing to find a place by 12/1. Any housing right now it impossible to find!

You are the jerk OP.

No, she is not. But I would be wary of buying a home with a tenant still in place. You can always back out after the inspection.

I did this in 2002. We were a young white newlywed couple buying he house from friends, sans realtor. Long term renter in place was very well known AA businesswoman in this town. Her sister lived with her for free but wasnt on lease.

She screamed "White Devil White White Devil Racist Racist Racist!!!!!" during the entire inspection. 100% true story. Cost us $2000 in lawyer's and two months to get her out.

She wasn't even a legal tenant.

Probably would not have succeeded in today's climate.

Oh, he ironny.

[Anonymous]

the landlord is an idiot if he didn't put in a term in the least that must vacate for inspections or maintenance. Also make sure there is a contingency that the landlord evicts the tenant by closing or charge penalities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP did you try to schedule the inspector to accommodate the tenant's schedule?

Your agent should have also told you that many sellers wait until a lease is up, the tenant has moved out, and then they fix up the house for sale.

OP here: yes we did. We were told between 9am-12pm or 3pm-5pm Thursday or Friday so we chose 3pm Thursday. I just didn’t realize that meant she’d be staying, we just assumed those were times she could be out of the home.

Why does this bother you so much? What do you think the tenant will do? Sway the inspector? Protest what the inspector finds? The tenant is moving out and doesn't own the home and doesn't care what the inspector finds. In fact, the tenant will likely already know some of the problems the inspector points out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The seller can tell them anything they want, it doesn’t give the seller any power to enforce it though. I’d be more worried about them actually leaving 12/1 unless you want to be a landlord

Op here: Why? We were told the seller let them know their lease won’t be renewed and that our closing (as long as inspection goes well) will be December 15th and that we’d like them out by the 8th the absolute latest. If their lease isn’t renewed, how would they just stay?

If you're in DC, this is not how it works. They have right of first refusal and it's a long process. Depends on the jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

I would never leave my home with my personal property in it for a group of strangers to go looking in cabinets and wardrobes. Not only would I stay for the entire thing, I would actually follow them around and make sure they didn’t take anything.