NMSF for DC

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


It’s close, but they’re not tied. Sidwell’s NMSF numbers are better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:why is Walls disproportionately female?

My STA boy did not get into Walls from a DCPS middle school (within the past two years). He was accepted to STA, Sidwell, the Scholars program at St. Johns, Gonzaga, etc. I can think of other boys like this--one is now at Sidwell, one at GDS. They had straight high As in DCPS middle school and were total academic kids (algebra 2 in middle school, etc). None got into Walls.

I don't think my kid would have chosen Walls and he's getting an outstanding education at STA but it's weird that Walls would be turning down highly accomplished boys and yet maintaining a gender imbalance.


I'm confused- there are 5 Walls students who made the cut and 3/5 are male.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


NCS and STA have 140 students combined. I have kids at both.
However, I don't think you can pool them together because the schools are very different--different course sequencing, courses, books, etc. There is some overlap in families whose kids attend but not as much as you would expect. The kids take some English classes together but not until junior year and only a few get the opportunity to go to the other school. My daughter and friends (about 10 of them) are NCS juniors and are all at NCS for English this year. They would have loved to go to STA for English but only a few girls get this opportunity (luck of the draw).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


NCS only has 2…so that’s 7/141…which is worse than 8/125.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


NCS only has 2…so that’s 7/141…which is worse than 8/125.


You’re correct! Sidwell clearly has more NMSF than STA/NCS combined.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


NCS only has 2…so that’s 7/141…which is worse than 8/125.


Why are you combing STA and NCS? They're completely different schools with completely different curriculums--they just share land on the Cathedral Close.

I don't understand. The schools have entirely different curriculums.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


3/8 of Sidwell’s NMSF are girls. Close to parity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


NCS only has 2…so that’s 7/141…which is worse than 8/125.


Why are you combing STA and NCS? They're completely different schools with completely different curriculums--they just share land on the Cathedral Close.

I don't understand. The schools have entirely different curriculums.


Nonsense. NCS and STA don’t “just share land on the Cathedral Close.” They are brother/sister schools with a long history.

NCS and STA also have a formal coordinate program. “This allows students to take advantage of each school's outstanding teachers, state-of-the-art facilities, and diversity and depth of programs. And it significantly expands the academic and extracurricular options available to each young woman and man on the Close.”

Further, “coordinate opportunities increase when NCS [and St. Albans] students enter the Upper School. Nearly all art activities and classes are coordinate. English classes for grades 11 and 12 are coed, as are many elective classes.”
Anonymous
Girls generally outperform boys at school. This is especially true if you emphasize grades over test scores. There are lots of articles about college admissions even at very top schools having for 20 years now given a small admissions boost to boys (to promote gender parity).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:St Albans trounces everyone by a mile.

5/71.


Of course STA has the highest NMSF/senior ratio by a mile. It’s a boys school.

NMSFs are disproportionately boys, and that’s especially true in DC, where the cut score for NMSF is sky high: roughly 2/3 of the DC winners this year (and last year, when the cut score was just as high) are boys.

If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town but much more in line with the ratios at the gender-balanced Sidwell and the disproportionately-female Walls.


“If you add the NCS and STA numbers together, you get 9/141, which is still the best in town…”

No, that’s not better than Sidwell’s 8/125.


Correct, they’re essentially tied. (And LOL at me making an arithmetic error in this context!)


NCS only has 2…so that’s 7/141…which is worse than 8/125.


Why are you combing STA and NCS? They're completely different schools with completely different curriculums--they just share land on the Cathedral Close.

I don't understand. The schools have entirely different curriculums.


Nonsense. NCS and STA don’t “just share land on the Cathedral Close.” They are brother/sister schools with a long history.

NCS and STA also have a formal coordinate program. “This allows students to take advantage of each school's outstanding teachers, state-of-the-art facilities, and diversity and depth of programs. And it significantly expands the academic and extracurricular options available to each young woman and man on the Close.”

Further, “coordinate opportunities increase when NCS [and St. Albans] students enter the Upper School. Nearly all art activities and classes are coordinate. English classes for grades 11 and 12 are coed, as are many elective classes.”


You're reading from the website. I have kids at the schools. There are no coed classes through 10th grade except for art. So kids taking the PSAT in Oct of 11th have not taken more than a month of any coed classes except for maybe photography or painting.

Then there are coed English classes beginning in 11th but enrollment in the opposite school's classes are extremely limited---4 kids max from the opposite school. My daughter is a junior and she and her friends were not able to get a STA class this year. Believe me, they tried.
They'll be seniors before they take a STA academic class--if ever.
Anonymous
For being such fancy privates these numbers aren’t impressive. TJ kicks the snot out of them.
Anonymous
Is this one student a typical result for GDS?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this one student a typical result for GDS?


It’s down. Hard to know if it’s a blip but if you read the private school board there are rumors that GDS is moving in a less academic direction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Poor Jackson Reed.

Remember last year was a total disaster for testing on PSAT day there. Well - here are the results
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Poor Jackson Reed.

Remember last year was a total disaster for testing on PSAT day there. Well - here are the results


In fact the number of NMSFs at JR is up from the class of 2023. Maybe logistical chaos is good? Or maybe we should hesitate to draw conclusions from very small numbers.
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