Duel enrollment

[Anonymous]

The main reasons to do dual enrollment are:

1) Cost savings is your priority and you don't mind shortening your time spent in college post-high school

2) You want to get out of high school and join the workforce ASAP with an Associate's degree

3) You've maxed out of high school level courses in math or science and college courses via MC are the only alternative left

If your goal isn't one of those three things, then DE probably isn't a good fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It takes you out of the school environment and it’s no longer a high school experience. You are no longer doing high school things like going to football games, eating lunch and hanging out with a different crowd. Growing up and out too fast. There is plenty of time for that. Enjoy your youth.

I 100% agree with and second that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The main reasons to do dual enrollment are:

1) Cost savings is your priority and you don't mind shortening your time spent in college post-high school

2) You want to get out of high school and join the workforce ASAP with an Associate's degree

3) You've maxed out of high school level courses in math or science and college courses via MC are the only alternative left

If your goal isn't one of those three things, then DE probably isn't a good fit.

You can take a few classes without being enrolled in the program. This is a program for everyone. Not just super bright kids. It's a good way for lower income students to get two years of college/cost savings in. Or, if they hate high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The main reasons to do dual enrollment are:

1) Cost savings is your priority and you don't mind shortening your time spent in college post-high school

2) You want to get out of high school and join the workforce ASAP with an Associate's degree

3) You've maxed out of high school level courses in math or science and college courses via MC are the only alternative left

If your goal isn't one of those three things, then DE probably isn't a good fit.

This makes sense. The cost savings can help some kids but many kids are better off sticking with AP courses at their HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone help explain why duel enrollment with Montgomery College isn’t more popular? It seems like it would be really attractive to families that have college bound kids (I’m thinking about the non-degree option not the specific duel degree programs). Do colleges not like it as much as seeing kids take regular high school courses? Kids just prefer to take classes at their home school? Hard to work around? Can it be done as summer school?

It is popular. There weren't enough spaces for all the students who wanted a spot this year. My son's friend was excited for it but didn't get chosen in the lottery.

See last paragraph for the statment about the lottery:
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/partnerships/early-college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes you out of the school environment and it’s no longer a high school experience. You are no longer doing high school things like going to football games, eating lunch and hanging out with a different crowd. Growing up and out too fast. There is plenty of time for that. Enjoy your youth.

This is a feature, not a bug, for many people.

Also I'm pretty sure that students who do dual enrollment are still eating lunch.

I think the PP is saying dual enrollment is a different model. The student will have different teachers and a different level of involvement in their home school.

Duh, they still eat lunch. When did PP say they didn’t eat lunch! They may not eat with their peers because they are en route to classes as MC. You are an idiot. Read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DE or AP depends on the kid. Our older one (now in college) took APs and one DE senior year. She said afterward that she wishes she had taken more DEs instead of APs. Our younger one (HS) is taking DEs so far. As a concept, AP is just a better known quantity to most people, I think. DE course fees (at least where we are) tend to cost more than AP course fees by a good $20-$40, too. Don't know if that's an issue where you are, but it could help some families decide.

It’s free now. I haven’t paid tuition for them in two or three semesters. Books were also covered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MC doesn't have a great academic rep

It's possible to take online classes from other schools that look better on a college application.

Many colleges won't honor transfer credits from a community college.

That's just off-the-top.

Says who?

It’s a nationally well-regarded two year school.

[Anonymous]

It seems from what I hear that colleges accept AP to place out of classes but not to receive credit. I gather dual enrollment would allow you to both place out of classes and receive college credits, at least at in state schools. Is that correct or am I misinterpreting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems from what I hear that colleges accept AP to place out of classes but not to receive credit. I gather dual enrollment would allow you to both place out of classes and receive college credits, at least at in state schools. Is that correct or am I misinterpreting?

Yes, MC credits do transfer pretty well with MD universities. Outside of the state though, not so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems from what I hear that colleges accept AP to place out of classes but not to receive credit. I gather dual enrollment would allow you to both place out of classes and receive college credits, at least at in state schools. Is that correct or am I misinterpreting?

Yes, MC credits do transfer pretty well with MD universities. Outside of the state though, not so much.

You can look up transfer credits from MC to UMD here: https://app.transfercredit.umd.edu/display-inst-courses.html?instCode=52431A

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It takes you out of the school environment and it’s no longer a high school experience. You are no longer doing high school things like going to football games, eating lunch and hanging out with a different crowd. Growing up and out too fast. There is plenty of time for that. Enjoy your youth.

Not true. DD did DE when in HS. She was back at school for lunch. She took 4 classes back at the HS (calc, AP English, science and history). She definitely felt a part of her HS. She took DE to explore subjects related to her intended college major that weren’t an option at her HS. It was a fantastic experience. Lots of research and presentations. She felt like she had a sense of college expectations. My youngest is looking forward to doing the same senior year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It takes you out of the school environment and it’s no longer a high school experience. You are no longer doing high school things like going to football games, eating lunch and hanging out with a different crowd. Growing up and out too fast. There is plenty of time for that. Enjoy your youth.

DE does not interfere with school. Those who take DE classes have abbreviated schedule. They still eat lunch and have a full HS experience. They can just choose to come in later or leave early, depending on what works for them.

[Anonymous]

Is it only senior year? Can it be done during the summer school session?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MC doesn't have a great academic rep

It's possible to take online classes from other schools that look better on a college application.

Many colleges won't honor transfer credits from a community college.

That's just off-the-top.

MC is ranked #10 CC out of 700. https://www.montgomerycollege.edu/news/press-releases/2023-8-16-montgomery-college-ranked-a-top-10-best-community-college-in-the-us-and-first-in-the-state-of-maryland.html#:~:text=MC%20came%20in%20at%20%2310,the%20nearly%20700%20ranked%20colleges.

Having college credit instead of APs on the transcript didn’t prevent DC from being accepted to (well-ranked) schools that were of interest.

MC core classes that are part of dual enrollment all transfer to UMD and GA Tech. By extension, they’ll transfer to all public universities when put through the university’s review system. (I checked a few specific schools that DC applied to.) All of my DC’s CC credits were accepted except one random “intro” type class. Started at an out-of-state public with 58 transfer credits +7 AP.