Good Omens Season 2 -- good? Horrible? Other opinions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It was a bit disappointing because the original Good Omens is a beloved classic in our house (as well as the book), and this was nowhere as good. I was still happy to watch, just because I love seeing fun characters return, like Sheen and Tennant and Hamm.



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I have no issue with the new plot of the missing archangel. John Hamm plays it well. I have no issue with the main lesbian romantic relationship. But I DO have issue with the writers sexualizing the relationship between Aziraphale and Crowley at the end. Not every loving friendship needs to be sexual, especially one between an angel and a fallen angel!!! Ugh. So irritating.

NP. Everything could have been the same without the kiss and it would have been so much more powerful. The kiss didn't make sense. It's not consistent with the character and was too much for the moment. It broke the wonderful tension between them. The kiss actually reduced their relationship for me. I mean, I cannot fathom such an enduring and marvelous relationship over millions of years. Mind already blown. They do a good job of adding the weight of time to their friendship and couple that with the ever-present complication of the Angel/Demon connection. When he kissed him, I just said, "Why?" A complete distraction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We watched it and we enjoyed it. My one disappointment was the actress that played Beezlebub was replaced and the new actress wasn't nearly as good.

Agreed. And it really showed in the flashback from last season. The other actress was so much better. I can't help but think they did it to make what happens more realistic or what, as if the old face couldn't have told this story because she wasn't as beautiful. If you've seen the season finale, you'll know what I'm referencing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We watched it and we enjoyed it. My one disappointment was the actress that played Beezlebub was replaced and the new actress wasn't nearly as good.

Agreed. And it really showed in the flashback from last season. The other actress was so much better. I can't help but think they did it to make what happens more realistic or what, as if the old face couldn't have told this story because she wasn't as beautiful. If you've seen the season finale, you'll know what I'm referencing.

The new one seemed to play everything just a little too quietly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It was a bit disappointing because the original Good Omens is a beloved classic in our house (as well as the book), and this was nowhere as good. I was still happy to watch, just because I love seeing fun characters return, like Sheen and Tennant and Hamm.



--- spoiler alert --




I have no issue with the new plot of the missing archangel. John Hamm plays it well. I have no issue with the main lesbian romantic relationship. But I DO have issue with the writers sexualizing the relationship between Aziraphale and Crowley at the end. Not every loving friendship needs to be sexual, especially one between an angel and a fallen angel!!! Ugh. So irritating.

NP. Everything could have been the same without the kiss and it would have been so much more powerful. The kiss didn't make sense. It's not consistent with the character and was too much for the moment. It broke the wonderful tension between them. The kiss actually reduced their relationship for me. I mean, I cannot fathom such an enduring and marvelous relationship over millions of years. Mind already blown. They do a good job of adding the weight of time to their friendship and couple that with the ever-present complication of the Angel/Demon connection. When he kissed him, I just said, "Why?" A complete distraction.

This was the feeling in our household, too. Disappointing ending.

[Anonymous]

"Everyday, it's a-gettin' closer
Goin' faster than a roller coaster
Love like yours will surely come my way
A-hey, a-hey, hey..."

in my head since watching this.

I had low expectations but largely enjoyed it except for the Zombies and the aforementioned ending.

[Anonymous]

Agree that kiss was distracting and unnecessary. Their bond was more powerful without it.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I really didn't like where they took Crowley and Aziraphale. At this point it's like the woke agenda is trying to invade everything and mind-control me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I really didn't like where they took Crowley and Aziraphale. At this point it's like the woke agenda is trying to invade everything and mind-control me.

It didn't really feel like a woke agenda. I mean, they already had a representation of lots of different types of couples so one more wouldn't make a huge difference. It just felt like it cheapened a millennia long relationship, bringing it down to mortal standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It just felt like it cheapened a millennia long relationship, bringing it down to mortal standards.

You said this so well, PP. I agree that this long-term relationship was cheapened.

[Anonymous]

"mortal standards"

As if that's a bad thing? As if that hasn't been the very point of these characters since they were first introduced? As far back as the book, we've always had other characters commenting on the degree to which Aziraphale and Crowley have "gone native" on Earth. Angels aren't supposed to eat sushi, drink wine, or dance the Gavotte, but Aziraphale does all of these with gusto even as his own celestial colleagues mock him for it. Demons aren't supposed to care about fashionable apartments and cars, or have any interest in preventing the apocalypse, let alone go around showing kindness to others or having a soft spot for anything ("not the kids, you can't kill kids...")

So you can be pretty sure that it was not in any of Heaven or Hell's employee conduct manuals for these two to form any kinds of earthly attachments, but the beauty of them has always been that they've embraced their connection to Earth and humanity by doing exactly that. They go against the grain by not distancing themselves from earthly life, by deigning to love and care about things in a very human way, and that includes falling in love. That's one of the most human things that they could do, and their inevitable reunion will cement their allegiance to this planet as their true home, which I can all but guarantee is how the third and final season will conclude (or the novel that Gaiman has promised to write if things with Amazon don't work out - either way the story is getting finished).

I'm not sure what the rest of you have been watching, but to me this was always the natural trajectory of the characters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"mortal standards"

As if that's a bad thing? As if that hasn't been the very point of these characters since they were first introduced? As far back as the book, we've always had other characters commenting on the degree to which Aziraphale and Crowley have "gone native" on Earth. Angels aren't supposed to eat sushi, drink wine, or dance the Gavotte, but Aziraphale does all of these with gusto even as his own celestial colleagues mock him for it. Demons aren't supposed to care about fashionable apartments and cars, or have any interest in preventing the apocalypse, let alone go around showing kindness to others or having a soft spot for anything ("not the kids, you can't kill kids...")

So you can be pretty sure that it was not in any of Heaven or Hell's employee conduct manuals for these two to form any kinds of earthly attachments, but the beauty of them has always been that they've embraced their connection to Earth and humanity by doing exactly that. They go against the grain by not distancing themselves from earthly life, by deigning to love and care about things in a very human way, and that includes falling in love. That's one of the most human things that they could do, and their inevitable reunion will cement their allegiance to this planet as their true home, which I can all but guarantee is how the third and final season will conclude (or the novel that Gaiman has promised to write if things with Amazon don't work out - either way the story is getting finished).

I'm not sure what the rest of you have been watching, but to me this was always the natural trajectory of the characters.

Beautifully written, and true.

[Anonymous]

Aziraphale jumped too quickly on Metatron's so called offer, when Aziraphale could "be in charge" to force changes. The bigger thing is the almost forgot to mention 2nd coming. That sets up the Heaven vs Hell war for season (or book) 3.

Typical Angel to jump to conclusions vs having to deal with the big other shoe to drop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"mortal standards"

As if that's a bad thing? As if that hasn't been the very point of these characters since they were first introduced? As far back as the book, we've always had other characters commenting on the degree to which Aziraphale and Crowley have "gone native" on Earth. Angels aren't supposed to eat sushi, drink wine, or dance the Gavotte, but Aziraphale does all of these with gusto even as his own celestial colleagues mock him for it. Demons aren't supposed to care about fashionable apartments and cars, or have any interest in preventing the apocalypse, let alone go around showing kindness to others or having a soft spot for anything ("not the kids, you can't kill kids...")

So you can be pretty sure that it was not in any of Heaven or Hell's employee conduct manuals for these two to form any kinds of earthly attachments, but the beauty of them has always been that they've embraced their connection to Earth and humanity by doing exactly that. They go against the grain by not distancing themselves from earthly life, by deigning to love and care about things in a very human way, and that includes falling in love. That's one of the most human things that they could do, and their inevitable reunion will cement their allegiance to this planet as their true home, which I can all but guarantee is how the third and final season will conclude (or the novel that Gaiman has promised to write if things with Amazon don't work out - either way the story is getting finished).

I'm not sure what the rest of you have been watching, but to me this was always the natural trajectory of the characters.

Beautifully written, and true.

Glad you found a friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"mortal standards"

As if that's a bad thing? As if that hasn't been the very point of these characters since they were first introduced? As far back as the book, we've always had other characters commenting on the degree to which Aziraphale and Crowley have "gone native" on Earth. Angels aren't supposed to eat sushi, drink wine, or dance the Gavotte, but Aziraphale does all of these with gusto even as his own celestial colleagues mock him for it. Demons aren't supposed to care about fashionable apartments and cars, or have any interest in preventing the apocalypse, let alone go around showing kindness to others or having a soft spot for anything ("not the kids, you can't kill kids...")

So you can be pretty sure that it was not in any of Heaven or Hell's employee conduct manuals for these two to form any kinds of earthly attachments, but the beauty of them has always been that they've embraced their connection to Earth and humanity by doing exactly that. They go against the grain by not distancing themselves from earthly life, by deigning to love and care about things in a very human way, and that includes falling in love. That's one of the most human things that they could do, and their inevitable reunion will cement their allegiance to this planet as their true home, which I can all but guarantee is how the third and final season will conclude (or the novel that Gaiman has promised to write if things with Amazon don't work out - either way the story is getting finished).

I'm not sure what the rest of you have been watching, but to me this was always the natural trajectory of the characters.

Beautifully written, and true.

Glad you found a friend.

Sorry you can't appreciate the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"mortal standards"

As if that's a bad thing? As if that hasn't been the very point of these characters since they were first introduced? As far back as the book, we've always had other characters commenting on the degree to which Aziraphale and Crowley have "gone native" on Earth. Angels aren't supposed to eat sushi, drink wine, or dance the Gavotte, but Aziraphale does all of these with gusto even as his own celestial colleagues mock him for it. Demons aren't supposed to care about fashionable apartments and cars, or have any interest in preventing the apocalypse, let alone go around showing kindness to others or having a soft spot for anything ("not the kids, you can't kill kids...")

So you can be pretty sure that it was not in any of Heaven or Hell's employee conduct manuals for these two to form any kinds of earthly attachments, but the beauty of them has always been that they've embraced their connection to Earth and humanity by doing exactly that. They go against the grain by not distancing themselves from earthly life, by deigning to love and care about things in a very human way, and that includes falling in love. That's one of the most human things that they could do, and their inevitable reunion will cement their allegiance to this planet as their true home, which I can all but guarantee is how the third and final season will conclude (or the novel that Gaiman has promised to write if things with Amazon don't work out - either way the story is getting finished).

I'm not sure what the rest of you have been watching, but to me this was always the natural trajectory of the characters.

Beautifully written, and true.

I didn't like the kiss, but your description makes me think about it more charitably.