Yeah that's it. Can't be the climate change. |
I feel like if anything it would be like FL here in the DMV. Not somewhere uninhabitable. |
The climate is changing and it always has. We are not in the ice age anymore. If there’s a real earth scientist - I am happy to have a conversation about it. Things like Al Gore’s movie and everything I see in the press doesn’t go far back enough. It’s too alarmist and only goes back to “recorded history.” That’s not enough. You have to go back millions of years. The earth always has warming and cooling cycles. If you compare the ice bubbles in Antarctica and sediment in the sea layers you get a warming and cooling cycle over millions of years and we are in a warming cycle now but it doesn’t have to be as alarmist as it is. |
There weren't 7 billion of us a million years ago. |
There aren’t dinosaurs now. |
Even if it’s a normal cycle, our human civilization won’t survive in the way that we know it. |
Sure, but what will Florida and Central America be like? India? |
Four of the hottest days in recorded world history were last week. It has been triple digits for ten days in twelve states. The ocean temperatures around the Florida Keys are in the high 90s. Canada’s Northwest Territories recorded a temperature of 100°F for the first time ever. |
There have been 5 mass extinctions too. I don't think the question of interest is whether the earth will survive, it's whether and how humans and the species we depend on will. I don't think the paleontological record is particularly reassuring on that front. At best, it's irrelevant. At worst, it should make us realize we're part of a fragile ecological web and there is precedent for most of life on earth dying. |
Projections are that by mid to late century it will be like Georgia. (We use climate models in my work.) Sounds terrible to me! |
But survivable and we have plenty of water. The DC area is pretty good going forward from a climate perspective. I think some people are starting to wonder whether places like Phoenix will be livable in the coming decades. |
I think you're an ostrich with her head in the sand. You are incorrect. The average temperature is rising annually. We have had four of the hottest days across the globe this summer alone. If you think the temps have "barely increased" then you are not paying attention. I have friends who grew up in New England and live there now. When they were growing up, you had a small handful of days each summer where you needed AC. Now, you need it a few days a week for the entire summer. There are many people who don't have AC an they say that they can't remember so many days that they've needed it and are forced to get room AC units. Across the south from Florida to Arizona, they have more triple-digit temperature days than not each summer. Arizona hit 115 degrees this week and had four days that had temps over 110. 1988 was the first time in recorded history that Arizona had broken 100 degrees and now it is regularly over 110. That means a rise of 10 degrees for the high temperatures over 35 years. And you think that the climate has "barely changed"? My brother has lived in Houston since 1981. We were talking yesterday and he said the daytime high got to 109. When he moved there, the first 100 degree day was late in August. Now it comes in June. The weather has changed dramatically over the last four decades and the climate rise is accelerating. You are ignorant and apathetic. |
Don't worry. The rich will be fine. |
Phoenix isn't livable now. ![]() |
Never before in history have the inhabitants of this planet burned fossil fuels as we have been doing for a century now -- purposefully destroying the atmosphere. This isn't a "natural" cycle. It is man-made catastrophe. |