gender balance

[Anonymous]

Yet some people still keep saying girls have a better chance as a STEM major at highly selective schools. They keep saying "Oh it's tough for boys" and I am sick and tired of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is easy to determine. Go to the school’s common data set and look at applications and admits by gender. Compute a percentage to see if there is a bias.

I have never seen this work in practice after looking through CDS. Even where a gender imbalance where women outnumber men, the admit rate for men is usually lower in my experience. Would be curious of any schools people find where men are minority AND men have a higher acceptance rate.

Vassar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet some people still keep saying girls have a better chance as a STEM major at highly selective schools. They keep saying "Oh it's tough for boys" and I am sick and tired of this.

"Yet"? Did you quote someone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is easy to determine. Go to the school’s common data set and look at applications and admits by gender. Compute a percentage to see if there is a bias.

I have never seen this work in practice after looking through CDS. Even where a gender imbalance where women outnumber men, the admit rate for men is usually lower in my experience. Would be curious of any schools people find where men are minority AND men have a higher acceptance rate.

Vassar?

Vassar accepts 26% of male applicants and 16% of female applicants, so men have a 60% higher acceptance rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet some people still keep saying girls have a better chance as a STEM major at highly selective schools. They keep saying "Oh it's tough for boys" and I am sick and tired of this.

Take a nap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a numbers game, so yes it will matter, generally males can get in with lower stats. How much difference will vary from school to school.

Would you say that the threshold for academic stats may be lower for males in general, or that the male with very high stats has an advantage? Or both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/

You can find gender admissions on SAT, ACT, Yield, etc..)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet some people still keep saying girls have a better chance as a STEM major at highly selective schools. They keep saying "Oh it's tough for boys" and I am sick and tired of this.

For STEM, it appears many of the girls have already "self selected" before applying. If they don't think they will qualify/are good enough they wont apply. So sometimes a higher percentage of females applicants are accepted in STEM (when considering the total number of females). Whereas the guys think they are qualified (even if they are not---since they have not grown up with teachers telling them they can't be good at math/science/STEM), so more of them are rejected.

The advantage for females is only slight. It's still tough for girls despite what people think

[Anonymous]

Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Studies show the college becomes less desirable and less apply when the female to male ratio gets close/beyond 60:40.

Girls want to date when they get there. They want decent odds.

[Anonymous]

The overarching problem boys face when applying to college is the same one they face once they get there: They're, on average, a year or two behind girls developmentally. So of course they're, on average, weaker applicants and students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Studies show the college becomes less desirable and less apply when the female to male ratio gets close/beyond 60:40.

Girls want to date when they get there. They want decent odds.

Please don't generalize by saying "Girls want to date when they get there". I have 2 girls. They want to go to college to study, dating is NOT their priority.
I am pretty sure there are boys that go to college to date.

[Anonymous]

Yes it affects admissions.

https://hechingerreport.org/an-unnoticed-result-of-the-decline-of-men-in-college-its-harder-for-women-to-get-in/#

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/upshot/college-admissions-men.html

[Anonymous]

I read it is much harder to get into Brown and Yale as a female.

https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2023/03/brown-has-largest-acceptance-rate-gap-between-men-women-in-ivy-league

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet some people still keep saying girls have a better chance as a STEM major at highly selective schools. They keep saying "Oh it's tough for boys" and I am sick and tired of this.

For STEM, it appears many of the girls have already "self selected" before applying. If they don't think they will qualify/are good enough they wont apply. So sometimes a higher percentage of females applicants are accepted in STEM (when considering the total number of females). Whereas the guys think they are qualified (even if they are not---since they have not grown up with teachers telling them they can't be good at math/science/STEM), so more of them are rejected.

The advantage for females is only slight. It's still tough for girls despite what people think

STEM should not be lumped together because biology, neuroscience, and environmental science are predominantly female majors — they should not expect a higher acceptance rate into those majors, and maybe the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure this varies by college, but curious if anyone knows how a college's gender balance may affect admissions? I know SLACs are generally female-heavy and STEM schools are generally male-heavy, so being a male applicant at the former and a female applicant at the latter would probably be a plus factor in admissions. But what about selective universities that are a little bit lopsided? Will a male applicant have a small advantage at school that is say 55% female? Or is that close enough to 50/50 that it won't matter?

Yes, and the stats bear that out. For all the "white male victim" bit#$ing, they actually have an advantage.