TJ top 1.5 percent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New to TJ. What does the following mean?
Is this the GPA score? How does TJ know who are in the top 1.5 percent of a class?


guaranteeing each public middle school seats for its top applicants in a number equal to 1.5% of the eighth-grade class;

They do not determine who is in the top 1.5%. They look at the number of students in the grade (say 1,000) and will admit at least 15 from that school ( .015 x 1,000).

But the 15 are the very best 15 applicants from that school.

NO, they just take 15 students from that school as min.

YES they are the very BEST 15.

Not necessarily. Getting an admissions offer does not make you the best. An increasing percentage of the area’s top students attend other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to TJ. What does the following mean?
Is this the GPA score? How does TJ know who are in the top 1.5 percent of a class?


guaranteeing each public middle school seats for its top applicants in a number equal to 1.5% of the eighth-grade class;

They do not determine who is in the top 1.5%. They look at the number of students in the grade (say 1,000) and will admit at least 15 from that school ( .015 x 1,000).

But the 15 are the very best 15 applicants from that school.

NO, they just take 15 students from that school as min.

YES they are the very BEST 15.

Not necessarily. Getting an admissions offer does not make you the best. An increasing percentage of the area’s top students attend other schools.

Anyone who chooses to go somewhere else is not the BEST.

BEST means:

Be
Enrolled
Student at
TJ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to TJ. What does the following mean?
Is this the GPA score? How does TJ know who are in the top 1.5 percent of a class?


guaranteeing each public middle school seats for its top applicants in a number equal to 1.5% of the eighth-grade class;

They do not determine who is in the top 1.5%. They look at the number of students in the grade (say 1,000) and will admit at least 15 from that school ( .015 x 1,000).

But the 15 are the very best 15 applicants from that school.

NO, they just take 15 students from that school as min.

YES they are the very BEST 15.

Not necessarily. Getting an admissions offer does not make you the best. An increasing percentage of the area’s top students attend other schools.

No it does in fact. The selection committee only invites the very top students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Significant achievements would mostly be based on extracurriculars. Some middle schools have excellent parental support for teams and clubs and at other middle schools opportunities for clubs are completely non-existent. Not fair to penalize a kid for attending a school that doesn't offer anything. And lastly teacher recommendations are also completely open to bias.

The question is about whether they are taking the top students within a school. All these kids would have the same extracurricular options as they are going to the same school. This year, there were some kids who did very well at a statewide level on some of these activities, who were rejected, while kids who were cut from the team were accepted to TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to TJ. What does the following mean?
Is this the GPA score? How does TJ know who are in the top 1.5 percent of a class?


guaranteeing each public middle school seats for its top applicants in a number equal to 1.5% of the eighth-grade class;

They do not determine who is in the top 1.5%. They look at the number of students in the grade (say 1,000) and will admit at least 15 from that school ( .015 x 1,000).

But the 15 are the very best 15 applicants from that school.

NO, they just take 15 students from that school as min.

YES they are the very BEST 15.

Not necessarily. Getting an admissions offer does not make you the best. An increasing percentage of the area’s top students attend other schools.

Anyone who chooses to go somewhere else is not the BEST.

BEST means:

Be
Enrolled
Student at
TJ

Sounds like a cheesy slogan from a TJ prep company in Herndon. Not reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Significant achievements would mostly be based on extracurriculars. Some middle schools have excellent parental support for teams and clubs and at other middle schools opportunities for clubs are completely non-existent. Not fair to penalize a kid for attending a school that doesn't offer anything. And lastly teacher recommendations are also completely open to bias.

The question is about whether they are taking the top students within a school. All these kids would have the same extracurricular options as they are going to the same school. This year, there were some kids who did very well at a statewide level on some of these activities, who were rejected, while kids who were cut from the team were accepted to TJ.

I heard the students that were cut from the team and selected by TJ had also cured cancer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Significant achievements would mostly be based on extracurriculars. Some middle schools have excellent parental support for teams and clubs and at other middle schools opportunities for clubs are completely non-existent. Not fair to penalize a kid for attending a school that doesn't offer anything. And lastly teacher recommendations are also completely open to bias.

The question is about whether they are taking the top students within a school. All these kids would have the same extracurricular options as they are going to the same school. This year, there were some kids who did very well at a statewide level on some of these activities, who were rejected, while kids who were cut from the team were accepted to TJ.

I heard the students that were cut from the team and selected by TJ had also cured cancer.

Now you’ll be ok when you get cancer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Significant achievements would mostly be based on extracurriculars. Some middle schools have excellent parental support for teams and clubs and at other middle schools opportunities for clubs are completely non-existent. Not fair to penalize a kid for attending a school that doesn't offer anything. And lastly teacher recommendations are also completely open to bias.

The question is about whether they are taking the top students within a school. All these kids would have the same extracurricular options as they are going to the same school. This year, there were some kids who did very well at a statewide level on some of these activities, who were rejected, while kids who were cut from the team were accepted to TJ.

Unless you know every detail of the applications of all of these kids, you don’t have a leg to stand on in criticizing the Admissions Office for who they select. It’s not your role to have an opinion on who should or should not get into TJ.

As has been mentioned earlier, many of these teams are “coached” by volunteer parents who decide who is and is not selected to be part of these teams based on factors other than skill/intelligence/competence.

The same is true in youth sports. Sometimes a kid who didn’t make the travel team in 8th grade for whatever reason ends up being the star of or a major player for the high school team.

And here’s another factor to consider: Every year, there is a significant number of students who simply write on their Student Portrait Sheet that they don’t want to go to TJ. It is an easy out for students whose parents are obsessed with TJ but who don’t want it themselves.

There is no way for the parent to find out that they did this and it explains more perplexing rejections that you’d think. It’s entirely possible that your kid has told you all along that they want to go but torpedoed themselves without you knowing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Significant achievements would mostly be based on extracurriculars. Some middle schools have excellent parental support for teams and clubs and at other middle schools opportunities for clubs are completely non-existent. Not fair to penalize a kid for attending a school that doesn't offer anything. And lastly teacher recommendations are also completely open to bias.

The question is about whether they are taking the top students within a school. All these kids would have the same extracurricular options as they are going to the same school. This year, there were some kids who did very well at a statewide level on some of these activities, who were rejected, while kids who were cut from the team were accepted to TJ.

Unless you know every detail of the applications of all of these kids, you don’t have a leg to stand on in criticizing the Admissions Office for who they select. It’s not your role to have an opinion on who should or should not get into TJ.

As has been mentioned earlier, many of these teams are “coached” by volunteer parents who decide who is and is not selected to be part of these teams based on factors other than skill/intelligence/competence.

The same is true in youth sports. Sometimes a kid who didn’t make the travel team in 8th grade for whatever reason ends up being the star of or a major player for the high school team.

And here’s another factor to consider: Every year, there is a significant number of students who simply write on their Student Portrait Sheet that they don’t want to go to TJ. It is an easy out for students whose parents are obsessed with TJ but who don’t want it themselves.

There is no way for the parent to find out that they did this and it explains more perplexing rejections that you’d think. It’s entirely possible that your kid has told you all along that they want to go but torpedoed themselves without you knowing.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Significant achievements would mostly be based on extracurriculars. Some middle schools have excellent parental support for teams and clubs and at other middle schools opportunities for clubs are completely non-existent. Not fair to penalize a kid for attending a school that doesn't offer anything. And lastly teacher recommendations are also completely open to bias.

The question is about whether they are taking the top students within a school. All these kids would have the same extracurricular options as they are going to the same school. This year, there were some kids who did very well at a statewide level on some of these activities, who were rejected, while kids who were cut from the team were accepted to TJ.

Unless you know every detail of the applications of all of these kids, you don’t have a leg to stand on in criticizing the Admissions Office for who they select. It’s not your role to have an opinion on who should or should not get into TJ.

As has been mentioned earlier, many of these teams are “coached” by volunteer parents who decide who is and is not selected to be part of these teams based on factors other than skill/intelligence/competence.

The same is true in youth sports. Sometimes a kid who didn’t make the travel team in 8th grade for whatever reason ends up being the star of or a major player for the high school team.

And here’s another factor to consider: Every year, there is a significant number of students who simply write on their Student Portrait Sheet that they don’t want to go to TJ. It is an easy out for students whose parents are obsessed with TJ but who don’t want it themselves.

There is no way for the parent to find out that they did this and it explains more perplexing rejections that you’d think. It’s entirely possible that your kid has told you all along that they want to go but torpedoed themselves without you knowing.

So many games spawned by TJ. To get in…to stay out…to pretend one turned it down when one was rejected…to telegraph one has no interest when pushed to apply…to contend only the “best” are admitted when that’s neither possible due to human error nor currently even intended.

At some point FCPS will return to the goal of a quality education for all. Until then we’re stuck with this wasteful charade.

[Anonymous]

It does support the goal of quality education for all. I wish there was a comparable program for students who want to emphasize the arts and have been cultivating talents in those areas and want that additional level of support that only a program with a focus on those areas can support.

There's nothing wrong with TJ, and there's nothing wasteful about... the only thing wrong and wasteful is some of the parents attitudes and incessant complaining about it, in an effort either to get their particular kid into the program and/or shape things in such a way that elevates their POV of how things "should" be over that of professional educators or the community at large.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It does support the goal of quality education for all. I wish there was a comparable program for students who want to emphasize the arts and have been cultivating talents in those areas and want that additional level of support that only a program with a focus on those areas can support.

There's nothing wrong with TJ, and there's nothing wasteful about... the only thing wrong and wasteful is some of the parents attitudes and incessant complaining about it, in an effort either to get their particular kid into the program and/or shape things in such a way that elevates their POV of how things "should" be over that of professional educators or the community at large.

Disagree. It continues to take up a disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time, attention, and resources. In a struggling school system that often fails to address the basic needs of students, it’s become an unnecessary luxury item.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It does support the goal of quality education for all. I wish there was a comparable program for students who want to emphasize the arts and have been cultivating talents in those areas and want that additional level of support that only a program with a focus on those areas can support.

There's nothing wrong with TJ, and there's nothing wasteful about... the only thing wrong and wasteful is some of the parents attitudes and incessant complaining about it, in an effort either to get their particular kid into the program and/or shape things in such a way that elevates their POV of how things "should" be over that of professional educators or the community at large.

Disagree. It continues to take up a disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time, attention, and resources. In a struggling school system that often fails to address the basic needs of students, it’s become an unnecessary luxury item.

Well, it's not going anywhere, so I would argue that the greater waste of time - unless you have a real plan - is to continue to suggest that it should go away.

But no, you continue to insist on clicking on and replying to threads that you could very easily just ignore and waste your time in doing so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It does support the goal of quality education for all. I wish there was a comparable program for students who want to emphasize the arts and have been cultivating talents in those areas and want that additional level of support that only a program with a focus on those areas can support.

There's nothing wrong with TJ, and there's nothing wasteful about... the only thing wrong and wasteful is some of the parents attitudes and incessant complaining about it, in an effort either to get their particular kid into the program and/or shape things in such a way that elevates their POV of how things "should" be over that of professional educators or the community at large.

Disagree. It continues to take up a disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time, attention, and resources. In a struggling school system that often fails to address the basic needs of students, it’s become an unnecessary luxury item.

Well, it's not going anywhere, so I would argue that the greater waste of time - unless you have a real plan - is to continue to suggest that it should go away.

But no, you continue to insist on clicking on and replying to threads that you could very easily just ignore and waste your time in doing so.

There is nothing that says we have to have a magnet school in perpetuity that chews up an excessive amount of FCPS bandwidth and seats students from other jurisdictions when FCPS is turning other high schools into 3000-student factories. It’s a testimony to your arrogance to suggest otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It does support the goal of quality education for all. I wish there was a comparable program for students who want to emphasize the arts and have been cultivating talents in those areas and want that additional level of support that only a program with a focus on those areas can support.

There's nothing wrong with TJ, and there's nothing wasteful about... the only thing wrong and wasteful is some of the parents attitudes and incessant complaining about it, in an effort either to get their particular kid into the program and/or shape things in such a way that elevates their POV of how things "should" be over that of professional educators or the community at large.

Disagree. It continues to take up a disproportionate amount of FCPS’s time, attention, and resources. In a struggling school system that often fails to address the basic needs of students, it’s become an unnecessary luxury item.

Well, it's not going anywhere, so I would argue that the greater waste of time - unless you have a real plan - is to continue to suggest that it should go away.

But no, you continue to insist on clicking on and replying to threads that you could very easily just ignore and waste your time in doing so.

There is nothing that says we have to have a magnet school in perpetuity that chews up an excessive amount of FCPS bandwidth and seats students from other jurisdictions when FCPS is turning other high schools into 3000-student factories. It’s a testimony to your arrogance to suggest otherwise.

Dp.

You sound like a deranged jealous person who has no chance at TJ.

You’re too obtuse to realize that even if you make TJ disappear you will help no one. you're only working to deprive some gifted kids of opportunities.