NNAT scores/ES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all know that AAP is done by school now, right? Nobody cares what pyramid you're in. A 130 at Timberlane which is zoned to McLean is very different from a 130 at Haycock.

I didn't know. When did this change happen?

Last year

Are you sure ? I have three kids and I have kids in AAP and Gen Ed but I have never heard it. Do you have a link about this info?

[Anonymous]

Yes, I would like to know as well....Any link to the forum post about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all know that AAP is done by school now, right? Nobody cares what pyramid you're in. A 130 at Timberlane which is zoned to McLean is very different from a 130 at Haycock.

I didn't know. When did this change happen?

Last year

Are you sure ? I have three kids and I have kids in AAP and Gen Ed but I have never heard it. Do you have a link about this info?

It is on the FCPS web site: see "Local Building Norms."
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/academic-overview/advanced-academic-programs-aap/advanced-academic-programs-aap-level-iv

[Anonymous]

Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You all know that AAP is done by school now, right? Nobody cares what pyramid you're in. A 130 at Timberlane which is zoned to McLean is very different from a 130 at Haycock.

I didn't know. When did this change happen?

Last year

Are you sure ? I have three kids and I have kids in AAP and Gen Ed but I have never heard it. Do you have a link about this info?

It is on the FCPS web site: see "Local Building Norms."
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/academic-overview/advanced-academic-programs-aap/advanced-academic-programs-aap-level-iv

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

It's smart if you apply it only to Title I schools, but it's incredibly unfair if you are, for example, an Asian family at a high SES school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

It's smart if you apply it only to Title I schools, but it's incredibly unfair if you are, for example, an Asian family at a high SES school.

I don’t necessarily think it’s a good way to handle things, but I don’t really see how it is unfair.

It doesn’t affect acceptance to the program, just who is “in pool”. Most parents at high SES schools are well aware of AAP and will parent refer whether their kid is in pool or not.

It’s their way of making sure kids who are low SES, whose parents are not so aware of AAP, who would benefit from AAP are not left out of the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

It's smart if you apply it only to Title I schools, but it's incredibly unfair if you are, for example, an Asian family at a high SES school.

For AAP, what does being Asian have to do with it? I don't think they consider race, do they?

It's smart because it acknowledges that kids from poorer communities have had less educational advantages by second grade, but if they are at the top ten percent of their school they probably still have enormous potential. Nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

It's smart if you apply it only to Title I schools, but it's incredibly unfair if you are, for example, an Asian family at a high SES school.

For AAP, what does being Asian have to do with it? I don't think they consider race, do they?

It's smart because it acknowledges that kids from poorer communities have had less educational advantages by second grade, but if they are at the top ten percent of their school they probably still have enormous potential. Nothing wrong with that.

They do consider race. There is a "diversity" component that no one talks about but everyone knows about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

It's smart if you apply it only to Title I schools, but it's incredibly unfair if you are, for example, an Asian family at a high SES school.

I don’t necessarily think it’s a good way to handle things, but I don’t really see how it is unfair.

It doesn’t affect acceptance to the program, just who is “in pool”. Most parents at high SES schools are well aware of AAP and will parent refer whether their kid is in pool or not.

It’s their way of making sure kids who are low SES, whose parents are not so aware of AAP, who would benefit from AAP are not left out of the process.

They should do the top x% for in pool at low SES. But it absolutely affects who gets accepted. You don’t think the schools know which kids they should be giving good GBRS to and who they should only give marginal GBRS? Kids who meet a certain profile will absolutely get the better GBRS and work samples and if you’re ‘just another smart Asian kid’ they won’t waste time or resources to produce good work samples or write a good GBRS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike much of what FCPS cooks up, I actually think this is a smart way to pursue the goal of equity.

It's smart if you apply it only to Title I schools, but it's incredibly unfair if you are, for example, an Asian family at a high SES school.

For AAP, what does being Asian have to do with it? I don't think they consider race, do they?

It's smart because it acknowledges that kids from poorer communities have had less educational advantages by second grade, but if they are at the top ten percent of their school they probably still have enormous potential. Nothing wrong with that.

I'll just tell you that we did an experiment. One of my mixed race children has Asian + Caucasian checked on all her school forms, the other one has Caucasian only. They had very similar NNAT/COGAT and grades, but only the Caucasian one got into AAP.

[Anonymous]

Why would you do that experiment?

[Anonymous]

Son got a perfect 160. Halley.