Electric SUV?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: There is the Bolt EUV. It's the bigger of the 2 Bolts.

Chevy also has the EV Equinox coming next year.

I looked at the Bolt EUV and was in excited talks with a few dealerships. I also had a plan to install a Level 2 charger in my garage.

Unfortunately, the thing is tiny. Back seat passengers have their heads and necks pretty close to the rear window.

We bought a RAV4 Hybrid instead.

There are a bunch of EVs on the market now that are calling themselves "SUVs." A lot of them are really small.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does it need to be full electric or is plug-in hybrid ok? Unless this is going to be solely a commuter, I’d still recommend a hybrid. We are not quite at the point where an electric has the infrastructure to get you anywhere in the US (but getting very close!). And hybrid will give you more options in larger sizes.

On the flip side, fully electric means way less maintenance (no oil changes, etc.), and the EV charging infrastructure is improving rapidly. If you plan to keep this car for more than three years or so, no reason to get stuck with having to keep up a gas engine. I guess I might not drive cross-country and back in our EV, but we also never did that in our gas car, and for anything we generally drive to, it's absolutely fine now (but requires some advance planning) and will be easier soon.

Quoted post. True. But I suspect if the OP knew a current all electric option was going to work for them for the next 15 years, they wouldn't be asking for more options. I can totally see (because this person is me) a situation where someone really wants to go electric, but the current stock of all electric options just doesn't work for them. If what you really need is a three row, the best 10+ years option is likely going to be a hybrid or a plug in hybrid. If you just cannot stand the thought of buying another car that relies on a gas engine at all but need three rows, you are probably better suited at this point leasing something for the next three years, and buying then. There are some great options coming down the line (like the VW bus, swoon, and Kia and Hyundai are adding three row options with the 2024 class), but they just are not really available options yet.

I did reread the part about the poster's kids being almost out of the house, so they probably don't need the three row. But point stands for anyone that does.

Yeah, but the main reason for now is the lack of third row (though if price isn't an option, the Rivian R1S has three-row options).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just decided to buy a used gas powered car which we will replace with electric or hybrid in a few years. The prices and markups are crazy right now and the infrastructure is not quite there yet (imo)

The prices and markups are bad, though the tax credits help. I find that the infrastructure is not a major issue; we can charge at home, so 95 percent of the time, we don't have to think about it. If you can't install charging equipment at your house, that's a different story, at least for now.

[Anonymous]

Lexus just released their new RZ — looks like it’s closer to the NX vs RX (which is what I would have wanted in a vehicle size)

[Anonymous]

How about the Subaru Solterra?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: How about the Subaru Solterra?

It is the sibling of the Toyota bZ4X. They share almost everything. The Toyota bZ4X is a disaster, the wheels are falling off. Toyota pulled it out of the market.
I would avoid the Subaru Soltera at all cost.

[Anonymous]

I have been trying to buy a Hyundai Ioniq5 since January. The model gets very good reviews and ratings for range, quality, etc, though I have been reading about some recent problems with a part that results in a failure of one of the batteries that has me concerned.
There are lots of SEs and SELs available in the area, but no RWD Limited models, and apparently Hyundai doesn’t take orders so you just have to keep hoping they decide to make and send the configuration you want (and so far I’ve not been lucky).

[Anonymous]

+1 to Nissan Ariya - I love mine (other than the delay to finally get it). The effective price is more now without the tax break that I got but it's still a solid SUV. Other than the price, about the old negative I've seen in reviews is slower charging but that may extend life of the battery.

[Anonymous]

We have an ID4 and like it. It qualifies for the tax credit which made us pick it over the Ioniq. Model Y just dropped its price again, so maybe something to consider too. But everything about Tesla is a bit misleading. Their Enhanced auto pilot features just comes with the ID 4 and Ioniq. Its a separate $6K for the MY. Also, the 255 mile range in my ID4 is the winter range. Now that the weather is good I get closer to 300miles. So VW under reports range. Tesla on the other hand publishes ranges that nobody has ever seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have an ID4 and like it. It qualifies for the tax credit which made us pick it over the Ioniq. Model Y just dropped its price again, so maybe something to consider too. But everything about Tesla is a bit misleading. Their Enhanced auto pilot features just comes with the ID 4 and Ioniq. Its a separate $6K for the MY. Also, the 255 mile range in my ID4 is the winter range. Now that the weather is good I get closer to 300miles. So VW under reports range. Tesla on the other hand publishes ranges that nobody has ever seen.

Agree with ID.4 range bits. New owner (three weeks) and getting just over 300 mile so far. Do A LOT of city driving in B mode. Paid MSRP. Dealer wasn't open to discussion on that. Did get good trade-in. Negotiated 2000$ more than originally offered. BIG plus, eligible for full 7500$ Fed rebate.

Infrastructure (assuming that means high voltage superchargers) issue overblown. Most would only need when traveling long distances. And frequent use significantly decrease battery life. Alternatively, if infrastructure's referring to grid, not a problem now, but as more EVs appear, can see how it would be.

[Anonymous]

this could be helpful

https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have an ID4 and like it. It qualifies for the tax credit which made us pick it over the Ioniq. Model Y just dropped its price again, so maybe something to consider too. But everything about Tesla is a bit misleading. Their Enhanced auto pilot features just comes with the ID 4 and Ioniq. Its a separate $6K for the MY. Also, the 255 mile range in my ID4 is the winter range. Now that the weather is good I get closer to 300miles. So VW under reports range. Tesla on the other hand publishes ranges that nobody has ever seen.

Agree with ID.4 range bits. New owner (three weeks) and getting just over 300 mile so far. Do A LOT of city driving in B mode. Paid MSRP. Dealer wasn't open to discussion on that. Did get good trade-in. Negotiated 2000$ more than originally offered. BIG plus, eligible for full 7500$ Fed rebate.

Infrastructure (assuming that means high voltage superchargers) issue overblown. Most would only need when traveling long distances. And frequent use significantly decrease battery life. Alternatively, if infrastructure's referring to grid, not a problem now, but as more EVs appear, can see how it would be.

Many people do drive long distances in their car. It’s a concern for many people.

[Anonymous]

For those who can wait till 2024 the Volvo EV90 looks great

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have an ID4 and like it. It qualifies for the tax credit which made us pick it over the Ioniq. Model Y just dropped its price again, so maybe something to consider too. But everything about Tesla is a bit misleading. Their Enhanced auto pilot features just comes with the ID 4 and Ioniq. Its a separate $6K for the MY. Also, the 255 mile range in my ID4 is the winter range. Now that the weather is good I get closer to 300miles. So VW under reports range. Tesla on the other hand publishes ranges that nobody has ever seen.

Agree with ID.4 range bits. New owner (three weeks) and getting just over 300 mile so far. Do A LOT of city driving in B mode. Paid MSRP. Dealer wasn't open to discussion on that. Did get good trade-in. Negotiated 2000$ more than originally offered. BIG plus, eligible for full 7500$ Fed rebate.

Infrastructure (assuming that means high voltage superchargers) issue overblown. Most would only need when traveling long distances. And frequent use significantly decrease battery life. Alternatively, if infrastructure's referring to grid, not a problem now, but as more EVs appear, can see how it would be.

Many people do drive long distances in their car. It’s a concern for many people.

We had a Tesla Y and now have an Ioniq 5.

Many long road trips in both. Finding and using superchargers while doing so never a problem.

In 6 years of ownership, used supercharger twice while "home". Level 2 charger in garage is plenty.

As a relatively long term EV owner and at this level of adoption, I think supercharger infrastructure argument is definitely overblown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those who can wait till 2024 the Volvo EV90 looks great

If you order now, there’s zero chance you get it in 2024. It’s also way above the OP’s budget.