Is it worth it to appeal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

If you can arrange for your child take the WISC a few times within a short period their score will be much higher giving you a better chance of appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

You can’t administer a WISC more than once in a 12 month period… it’s an IQ test not an ability test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

You can’t administer a WISC more than once in a 12 month period… it’s an IQ test not an ability test.

Some private school parents trying to game the system with such bravado more than 1 Wisc v test a year is illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

You can’t administer a WISC more than once in a 12 month period… it’s an IQ test not an ability test.

Some private school parents trying to game the system with such bravado more than 1 Wisc v test a year is illegal.

Correct. These are the same parents who will later create fake sport records to get their average kids admitted into ivy league schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

You can’t administer a WISC more than once in a 12 month period… it’s an IQ test not an ability test.

Some private school parents trying to game the system with such bravado more than 1 Wisc v test a year is illegal.

Illegal? LOL Did Congress pass that law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

You can’t administer a WISC more than once in a 12 month period… it’s an IQ test not an ability test.

Some private school parents trying to game the system with such bravado more than 1 Wisc v test a year is illegal.

So was buying the test answers for TJ but that didn't stop anyone either.

[Anonymous]

Just kinda random..but is your child a boy and could they possibly be color blind?

My red-green color blind kid got a very average score in NNAT and COGAT. It was a surprise to me because he always seemed very bright to me. But I figured I might have been biased as his mother. He was principal placed into our local level 4 class and he has done wonderfully throughout all the AAP years. One day years later, I saw a sample NNAT problem just randomly on a website somewhere, and realized that a lot of pattern matching uses colors -- my son would have been at a huge disadvantage! I actually don't know if the FCPS administered tests uses similar problems with colors or not, but just something to consider.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I know this thread is 2 months old, but wanted to update everyone. We got in on appeal at our center school. I ended up not doing a WISC and just submitted some new work samples and what I think, a strong cover letter. So for anyone doubting whether they should appeal or apply for AAP next year, just do it!! I'm so glad people on this forum told me to appeal. Thank you everyone!

[Anonymous]

Appeal with 3rd grade fall Iready if it’s high, good 3rd sol score should also help but I don’t know if scores will be released before appeal. Try to apply for level 3 math first if possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Appeal with 3rd grade fall Iready if it’s high, good 3rd sol score should also help but I don’t know if scores will be released before appeal. Try to apply for level 3 math first if possible.

My bad I didn’t read though everything before posting but congratulations to OP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appealed successfully for my DD. The only thing I included for the appeal was the WISC score. I didn't go to GMU but found a local psychologist that offered testing. I was careful to pick someone that looked non-scary, pleasant and attractive. I know this sounds weird, but a private school mom offered me that piece of advice. She had her kids take the WISC multiple times (for private school, not AAP) and said they did better when the person giving the test was attractive. You are leaving a young kid alone with someone in a room and if they look scary or stern, the kid might not focus.

My DD's NNAT was 114. I think it's worth the $400.

We did the same thing. Once the kid got the hang of the WISC their scores were also through the roof. I think it only took 4 tries.

I kind of assumed this was a joke, right? Is it even ethical for a psychologist to administer the WISC 4x in quick succession, or did you keep shopping around for different ones? Poor kid. I think it's helpful for smart kids to be grouped together, but if it doesn't work out for your DC at FCPS, why not supplement, add extra classes out of school, or send DC to private since you seem to have plenty of financial resources (assuming you were indeed serious and not playing with the parents here)?

You can’t administer a WISC more than once in a 12 month period… it’s an IQ test not an ability test.

Some private school parents trying to game the system with such bravado more than 1 Wisc v test a year is illegal.

Can you point to the law that makes taking multiple wisc's illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just kinda random..but is your child a boy and could they possibly be color blind?

My red-green color blind kid got a very average score in NNAT and COGAT. It was a surprise to me because he always seemed very bright to me. But I figured I might have been biased as his mother. He was principal placed into our local level 4 class and he has done wonderfully throughout all the AAP years. One day years later, I saw a sample NNAT problem just randomly on a website somewhere, and realized that a lot of pattern matching uses colors -- my son would have been at a huge disadvantage! I actually don't know if the FCPS administered tests uses similar problems with colors or not, but just something to consider.

Sure they took out any verbal/reading requirement to ensure they're not disadvantaging ESL kids and then the color blind kids are left out in the cold. Parents should at least look at these tests (even if not prepping); you might be surprised at how they purport to assess ability to succeed in school.