Haycock AAP Appeal Seeking Advice!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

I agree in general with this post though I don't think the process is random. It is just extremely inconsistent. Your child's rejection is baffling because she is high in everything. What I have heard of a lot lately is kids with much lower scores but high GBRS being accepted while high scores and lower GBRS are rejected. Your child is high in everything. I think I'd focus on a strong letter.

[Anonymous]

I think the process has a hole. This bright kid should be got in in the first place. I know a kid with 4FO and lower iready socre got in.

Appeal with a good worksample... Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everything looks amazing, with tiny exception that math Iready is 'only' very good. I truly don't think they care much what us parents write, but there are lots of friendly, collaborative kids who don't need AAP.

I'm sure applying in Haycock pyramid was also a complicating factor since so many high achievers there. Would look for examples of being a deep, outside the box thinker, creativity etc.

I was talking to another parent and learnt the 99% iReady score is considered normal for AAP ><
Is it truly that challenging? Would my 'only' very good daughter get stressed out in the program?

Maybe. Yes, an iready of 98 or 99 is normal in AAP. And some schools are also very competitive with the kids comparing scores..

A lot of kids in AAP have much lower iready scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the process has a hole. This bright kid should be got in in the first place. I know a kid with 4FO and lower iready socre got in.

Appeal with a good worksample... Good luck!

I think a cogat of 150+ is generally sure shot with 99% iready even in high ses schools. NNA 150+ helps but not as much as cogat. Anybody know of exceptions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the process has a hole. This bright kid should be got in in the first place. I know a kid with 4FO and lower iready socre got in.

Appeal with a good worksample... Good luck!

I think a cogat of 150+ is generally sure shot with 99% iready even in high ses schools. NNA 150+ helps but not as much as cogat. Anybody know of exceptions?

This kid’s score is similar to the OP so less than 150. Also the area of academic strength was no for both math and LA. The kid’s mom is also puzzled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).



Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

The FCPS folks are not idiots they vaigha you red handed with test prepping and decided yo make an example

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

The FCPS folks are not idiots they CAUGHT you red handed with test prepping and decided to make an example

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

The FCPS folks are not idiots they CAUGHT you red handed with test prepping and decided to make an example

This does not look like a CoGat profile of a prepped kid and until this year, every single teacher I’ve talked to said iready is BS and totally unreliable. However, a 91% on iready is not a bad score and really doesn’t refute the high Q score. Further, the teacher clearly thinks this child is exhibiting giftedness based on the GBRS. I’m firmly anti-prepping and think the people doing it have totally undermined the value that any testing provides, but this doesn’t look like a prepped profile to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

The FCPS folks are not idiots they CAUGHT you red handed with test prepping and decided to make an example

This does not look like a CoGat profile of a prepped kid and until this year, every single teacher I’ve talked to said iready is BS and totally unreliable. However, a 91% on iready is not a bad score and really doesn’t refute the high Q score. Further, the teacher clearly thinks this child is exhibiting giftedness based on the GBRS. I’m firmly anti-prepping and think the people doing it have totally undermined the value that any testing provides, but this doesn’t look like a prepped profile to me.

+1 The PP is either an idiot or a troll. iReady math would be much easier to prep into the 99th percentile than CogAT, and most of the kids doing intensive CogAT prep are also taking outside math classes. The perfect GBRS would be very hard to prep for. Generally, a prepped profile would be one where the CogAT is middling high (135-ish, but would have been a 120-125 without the prep), and the GBRS is pretty low.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

The FCPS folks are not idiots they CAUGHT you red handed with test prepping and decided to make an example

This does not look like a CoGat profile of a prepped kid and until this year, every single teacher I’ve talked to said iready is BS and totally unreliable. However, a 91% on iready is not a bad score and really doesn’t refute the high Q score. Further, the teacher clearly thinks this child is exhibiting giftedness based on the GBRS. I’m firmly anti-prepping and think the people doing it have totally undermined the value that any testing provides, but this doesn’t look like a prepped profile to me.

+1 The PP is either an idiot or a troll. iReady math would be much easier to prep into the 99th percentile than CogAT, and most of the kids doing intensive CogAT prep are also taking outside math classes. The perfect GBRS would be very hard to prep for. Generally, a prepped profile would be one where the CogAT is middling high (135-ish, but would have been a 120-125 without the prep), and the GBRS is pretty low.

If this kid took a Wisc v the fsi will be less than 120. Classic test prep case - good job FCPS for your decision

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in Haycock 2nd grade and did not get in. It's definitely a surprise to me, cause she was in pool and the school AART teacher told us she is 99% in!

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Parent referral form focused on her inviting personality (friendly, collaborative and compassionate) and reading habit (avid reader with exceptional memory).

Can you help me de-puzzle what might cause her being rejected?
Any advice on appealing strategy is appreciated!
Does getting a WISC score increase our chance of success?

She is likely a casualty of the randomness of the admissions process. You're unlikely to come up with any reason for the rejection. Focus on why your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom when you write your appeal. If the work samples from school were sloppy, submit better ones. Give very specific anecdotes about your child's gifted behaviors.

One thought on randomness: we are an Asian family. Could this be a factor in the decision process? I hope not!

I don’t think so. It’s an error that your kid did not get in.

NNAT: 149
CogAct (V:128; Q: 137; N: 131) Composite: 138;
iReady: Math 91%; Reading 99%;
GBRS: 4CQs

Your daughter's higher scores in NNAT and COGAT compared to iready math show a clear case of test prepping - hence NOT admitted.

This PP is an idiot. Ignore them. You should definitely appeal bc your kid should be in.

The FCPS folks are not idiots they CAUGHT you red handed with test prepping and decided to make an example

This does not look like a CoGat profile of a prepped kid and until this year, every single teacher I’ve talked to said iready is BS and totally unreliable. However, a 91% on iready is not a bad score and really doesn’t refute the high Q score. Further, the teacher clearly thinks this child is exhibiting giftedness based on the GBRS. I’m firmly anti-prepping and think the people doing it have totally undermined the value that any testing provides, but this doesn’t look like a prepped profile to me.

+1 The PP is either an idiot or a troll. iReady math would be much easier to prep into the 99th percentile than CogAT, and most of the kids doing intensive CogAT prep are also taking outside math classes. The perfect GBRS would be very hard to prep for. Generally, a prepped profile would be one where the CogAT is middling high (135-ish, but would have been a 120-125 without the prep), and the GBRS is pretty low.

If this kid took a Wisc v the fsi will be less than 120. Classic test prep case - good job FCPS for your decision

So you are a troll. Noted.