Will a 63.02 be grounded to D

Anonymous
Move to MCPS...you would get the D
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.


They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


If my kid got the answer correctly as written, I would have challenged the grade instead of accepting the test getting thrown out.


A question was thrown out, not the entire test. Ultimately, we don’t let parents make those decisions.


Maybe but grading is not by any fixed rule. Some teachers are willing to help students with some extra work credit or resubmits and other teachers not so much.

HS Teacher.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.


They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


If my kid got the answer correctly as written, I would have challenged the grade instead of accepting the test getting thrown out.


A question was thrown out, not the entire test. Ultimately, we don’t let parents make those decisions.


Maybe but grading is not by any fixed rule. Some teachers are willing to help students with some extra work credit or resubmits and other teachers not so much.

HS Teacher.


I think maybe extra credit is fine when it's offered to all students equally. Sounds like the student asked for a bump because they took it upon themselves to find an error with the sole purpose of boosting their overall grade. If had been a solid B, would the student have still combed over the test? I would be annoyed by a student asking that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.


They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


If my kid got the answer correctly as written, I would have challenged the grade instead of accepting the test getting thrown out.


A question was thrown out, not the entire test. Ultimately, we don’t let parents make those decisions.


Maybe but grading is not by any fixed rule. Some teachers are willing to help students with some extra work credit or resubmits and other teachers not so much.

HS Teacher.


I think maybe extra credit is fine when it's offered to all students equally. Sounds like the student asked for a bump because they took it upon themselves to find an error with the sole purpose of boosting their overall grade. If had been a solid B, would the student have still combed over the test? I would be annoyed by a student asking that.


Nope, good for the student. Maybe act a little professional and proofread your tests?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if a student has 63.03 F In Biology will the grade change to D since is only half a point away from D?



Grading rule depends on the teacher and the school. Have the student ask if failed and missing work can be resubmitted to increase the grade.

HS teacher



Thanks,
Trying to get him to study and get help serve ADHD and in team taught classes, so it’s not the easiest


I would round up if I thought the student had turned in *some* quality work, and had been polite and respectful to me and his peers in the classrroom. Some teachers are sticklers though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if a student has 63.03 F In Biology will the grade change to D since is only half a point away from D?



Grading rule depends on the teacher and the school. Have the student ask if failed and missing work can be resubmitted to increase the grade.

HS teacher



Thanks,
Trying to get him to study and get help serve ADHD and in team taught classes, so it’s not the easiest


I would round up if I thought the student had turned in *some* quality work, and had been polite and respectful to me and his peers in the classrroom. Some teachers are sticklers though.


If it is because of ADD or any other learning difficulty then you should explain that and ask the teacher
in writing (email) for resubmitted work and retakes to help with a passing grade. I would allow it for all my students.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.


They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


If my kid got the answer correctly as written, I would have challenged the grade instead of accepting the test getting thrown out.


A question was thrown out, not the entire test. Ultimately, we don’t let parents make those decisions.


Maybe but grading is not by any fixed rule. Some teachers are willing to help students with some extra work credit or resubmits and other teachers not so much.

HS Teacher.


I think maybe extra credit is fine when it's offered to all students equally. Sounds like the student asked for a bump because they took it upon themselves to find an error with the sole purpose of boosting their overall grade. If had been a solid B, would the student have still combed over the test? I would be annoyed by a student asking that.


No.

The student reviewed the test and found the error because they review every single test they take and reqork the problems so they understand why they got the problems wrong.

This particular kid likes to make certain they understand every topic they were tested on.

So they review every single incorrect test question every single time.

This time, they could not rework the problem to figure out why it was marked wrong, so they researched similar formulas and discovered the teacher's error.

It was a really simple calculation or formula mistake by the teacher, which made the problem incorrect for many if not all of the students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.


They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


If my kid got the answer correctly as written, I would have challenged the grade instead of accepting the test getting thrown out.


A question was thrown out, not the entire test. Ultimately, we don’t let parents make those decisions.


Maybe but grading is not by any fixed rule. Some teachers are willing to help students with some extra work credit or resubmits and other teachers not so much.

HS Teacher.


I think maybe extra credit is fine when it's offered to all students equally. Sounds like the student asked for a bump because they took it upon themselves to find an error with the sole purpose of boosting their overall grade. If had been a solid B, would the student have still combed over the test? I would be annoyed by a student asking that.


Isn't reviewing your wrong test answers what teachers want every student to do?

Seems strange that you are offended by a student taking the initiative to be a self driven good student.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.


They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


If my kid got the answer correctly as written, I would have challenged the grade instead of accepting the test getting thrown out.


A question was thrown out, not the entire test. Ultimately, we don’t let parents make those decisions.


Maybe but grading is not by any fixed rule. Some teachers are willing to help students with some extra work credit or resubmits and other teachers not so much.

HS Teacher.


I think maybe extra credit is fine when it's offered to all students equally. Sounds like the student asked for a bump because they took it upon themselves to find an error with the sole purpose of boosting their overall grade. If had been a solid B, would the student have still combed over the test? I would be annoyed by a student asking that.


Isn't reviewing your wrong test answers what teachers want every student to do?

Seems strange that you are offended by a student taking the initiative to be a self driven good student.


I'm not offended at all, just think that if I was the teacher I'd be a bit annoyed. I'd be embarrassed by my mistake as well, I would probably correct it and recalculate the grades of the tests. That may change the grade on some individual tests, but I wouldn't be changing the overall class grade of student because of it. Just because the student found a mistake doesn't mean they should get a grade they didn't earn.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It takes more work for teachers to fail students than give them D’s. They often have to verify what type of help they gave, how many student and parent contacts, opportunities for retakes, etc. You kid most likely is going to get a D.


I would do this for the end of the year for this very reason, not for quarter report cards. Those aren’t rounded. But yes, my final year grade would round to a D because it’s too much work to give an D if it’s this close.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It takes more work for teachers to fail students than give them D’s. They often have to verify what type of help they gave, how many student and parent contacts, opportunities for retakes, etc. You kid most likely is going to get a D.


I would do this for the end of the year for this very reason, not for quarter report cards. Those aren’t rounded. But yes, my final year grade would round to a D because it’s too much work to give an D if it’s this close.



Been teaching since 2000, and for end of year grades, I would, and if they stayed after for help I would even round a 60%. SPED high school mathematics teacher.
Anonymous
It is so hard to fail with the 50 percent floor. If you have less than 64 with that you deserve to fail.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is so hard to fail with the 50 percent floor. If you have less than 64 with that you deserve to fail.


+1, I once had a student that was receiving a 42% in my class. That was the great before I put in the 50% minimum. After the 50% minimum‘s were added to the lower assignments, they had like a 58% in the class. That’s a big jump, if your student has a grade in the low 60s then they are not doing well and shouldn’t get a bump up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No.

Related to this subject of rounding, my kid was less than 0.5 from an A in a class. They had turned in all their homework and participated in class.

After the final, my kid was still around a tenth from an A.

They looked over the test after the final and found an error on one of the questions the teacher had written. They were the only kid in the class who reviewed the final after it was graded.

They shared the error with the teacher who corrected the mistake by throwing out the incorrect question for all of the students.

My kid asked if they could get that last 10th of a point as extra credit for taking the time to actually read over the test and find that mistake.

The teacher said no.

Long story short, if the teachers won't round up by a tenth of a point for a kid who turned in all the work all year and took the time to review the final, then I doubt they will round up for a D student.

Your best option is probably to make your kid sit at the kitchen atble each night between now and the end of the year to do his homework with you looking over his shoulder to make sure he is not on tiktok or youtube. Double check his work daily. Make him study bio every night. It is almost all rote memorization so studying will help. Make sure he actually does all the homework and most importantly, submit it.

That will have better odds of raising a D minus to a regular D or maybe D plus.


I don’t know that teachers actually decide on rounding. Does t the computer do it? As to giving extra credit, I think lots of teachers are really likely to help kids who are close to a D. It is so much more significant to the success of a kid to get a D than an A. It’s the difference between a HS diploma and the ability to earn a living wage and never hitting that place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if a student has 63.03 F In Biology will the grade change to D since is only half a point away from D?



Grading rule depends on the teacher and the school. Have the student ask if failed and missing work can be resubmitted to increase the grade.

HS teacher



Thanks,
Trying to get him to study and get help serve ADHD and in team taught classes, so it’s not the easiest


OP, I'm sorry that your child is struggling in Biology. I would request an IEP meeting and work with the team to figure out how to finish the year as strong as possible. The team teachers and your child's case manager should be working with him to complete work and turn it in and to make sure he knows when tests and quizzes are. If he is struggling with content, he should be using "returns" to meet with his Bio teacher.

Does your child have an accommodation for extra time? small group testing? Are those things being followed (and not just upon his request?). Some teachers (even in a team taught setting) will expect your student to request their accommodation every time and many students this age won't do it. I pushed back on that in middle school and the beginning of 9th grade for the accommodation that my child most needs (small group testing). He now feels comfortable asking for his accommodations when he needs them. (And I don't pester the teachers about accommodations that are in his IEP "just in case" but that he doesn't really need at the moment.).



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