MCPS policies to prevent school shootings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing. We need gun bans like in every other developed country.

Any school can be shot open, like Hale did in Nashville.

Also, looking at my senior going in and out of his high school, anyone can get in when a student or staff member goes in. No shooting glass or shooting locks even necessary.

At a minimum banning assault style rifles. The predominate weapon used in mass shootings that has no purpose for hunting or self defense

They already are out there. A bit too late for that. And, some of the incidents were knives and other weapons.

We need more security, metal detectors, bag searches, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing. We need gun bans like in every other developed country.

Any school can be shot open, like Hale did in Nashville.

Also, looking at my senior going in and out of his high school, anyone can get in when a student or staff member goes in. No shooting glass or shooting locks even necessary.

Banning guns isn't going to help as there are too many guns out there and they can easily be made on 3-d printers. Ideally, yes, we get rid of guns but its too late for that.

NO. It is never too late. Your response is so wrong headed on every level. At the very least, you could say “let’s give that a try because we owe it to our kids to try everything”!

Do you think it’s too late to fight climate change?
During slave-holding times, would you have said “it’s too late to free them, there are too many”?
When England taxed colonies and sent troops over, would you have said “it’s too late, they’re a professional army, we’re just farmers”?
Did Zelensky escape Kyiv when Russians tried to take the city?

DEFEATIST. You are the problem!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is MCPS doing to prevent school shootings in our kids’ schools? Heightened security? Closing most entrances? Do parents feel comfortable still sending their kids to public school?

MCPS has no meaningful security plans and they're not seriously looking to address it either. They're hoping there's enough space between violent incidents that parents and teachers forget about it and don't demand change.

It’s ridiculous to say this and absolutely not true. Is there more that could be done, maybe, but to say they have no plan and have not looked into it, is a complete lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is MCPS doing to prevent school shootings in our kids’ schools? Heightened security? Closing most entrances? Do parents feel comfortable still sending their kids to public school?

MCPS has no meaningful security plans and they're not seriously looking to address it either. They're hoping there's enough space between violent incidents that parents and teachers forget about it and don't demand change.

It’s ridiculous to say this and absolutely not true. Is there more that could be done, maybe, but to say they have no plan and have not looked into it, is a complete lie.

Please, enlighten us with the robust, detailed security plan MCPS has that you're aware of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is MCPS doing to prevent school shootings in our kids’ schools? Heightened security? Closing most entrances? Do parents feel comfortable still sending their kids to public school?

MCPS has no meaningful security plans and they're not seriously looking to address it either. They're hoping there's enough space between violent incidents that parents and teachers forget about it and don't demand change.

It’s ridiculous to say this and absolutely not true. Is there more that could be done, maybe, but to say they have no plan and have not looked into it, is a complete lie.

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I would like to know if the new schools that are being built have any gun safety measures such as curved halls, secure doors, etc?

Please, enlighten us with the robust, detailed security plan MCPS has that you're aware of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing. We need gun bans like in every other developed country.

Any school can be shot open, like Hale did in Nashville.

Also, looking at my senior going in and out of his high school, anyone can get in when a student or staff member goes in. No shooting glass or shooting locks even necessary.

Banning guns isn't going to help as there are too many guns out there and they can easily be made on 3-d printers. Ideally, yes, we get rid of guns but its too late for that.

NO. It is never too late. Your response is so wrong headed on every level. At the very least, you could say “let’s give that a try because we owe it to our kids to try everything”!

Do you think it’s too late to fight climate change?
During slave-holding times, would you have said “it’s too late to free them, there are too many”?
When England taxed colonies and sent troops over, would you have said “it’s too late, they’re a professional army, we’re just farmers”?
Did Zelensky escape Kyiv when Russians tried to take the city?

DEFEATIST. You are the problem!!!

I agree. The extent of the problem means that it will take time for bans to have an effect, not that bans would never have an effect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is MCPS doing to prevent school shootings in our kids’ schools? Heightened security? Closing most entrances? Do parents feel comfortable still sending their kids to public school?

MCPS has no meaningful security plans and they're not seriously looking to address it either. They're hoping there's enough space between violent incidents that parents and teachers forget about it and don't demand change.

It’s ridiculous to say this and absolutely not true. Is there more that could be done, maybe, but to say they have no plan and have not looked into it, is a complete lie.

Please, enlighten us with the robust, detailed security plan MCPS has that you're aware of.

DP but you're definitely a troll and probably has no kids in MCPS. That's why you're not aware of any.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is MCPS doing to prevent school shootings in our kids’ schools? Heightened security? Closing most entrances? Do parents feel comfortable still sending their kids to public school?

MCPS has no meaningful security plans and they're not seriously looking to address it either. They're hoping there's enough space between violent incidents that parents and teachers forget about it and don't demand change.

It’s ridiculous to say this and absolutely not true. Is there more that could be done, maybe, but to say they have no plan and have not looked into it, is a complete lie.

Please, enlighten us with the robust, detailed security plan MCPS has that you're aware of.

DP but you're definitely a troll and probably has no kids in MCPS. That's why you're not aware of any.

Quite the opposite. Longtime MCPS parent of multiple kids and engaged with many stakeholders within MCPS about security and safety. The plans they've shared and vague and non-specific and they certainly haven't taken any significant or meaningful steps despite the fact that a shooting happened on MCPS's watch at Magruder last year.

Point me to this detailed, impressive, comprehensive security plan that you're convinced MCPS has in place. We'd all love to see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardening schools is not the same thing as achieving school safety. Most school shooters are part of the school community in some way (whether current or in the past) and know the security and blindspots. It has to start with creating a culture of trust and support.

Okay, but I would still like for schools to be hardened against outside threats. We can have both.

Basic security, absolutely. But when we start talking about things that inherently challenge creating a trusting culture and are known to do more harm than good (see: SROs), no thank you.

It is nuts that some people argue that more guns make schools safer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing. We need gun bans like in every other developed country.

Any school can be shot open, like Hale did in Nashville.

Also, looking at my senior going in and out of his high school, anyone can get in when a student or staff member goes in. No shooting glass or shooting locks even necessary.

Banning guns isn't going to help as there are too many guns out there and they can easily be made on 3-d printers. Ideally, yes, we get rid of guns but its too late for that.

NO. It is never too late. Your response is so wrong headed on every level. At the very least, you could say “let’s give that a try because we owe it to our kids to try everything”!

Do you think it’s too late to fight climate change?
During slave-holding times, would you have said “it’s too late to free them, there are too many”?
When England taxed colonies and sent troops over, would you have said “it’s too late, they’re a professional army, we’re just farmers”?
Did Zelensky escape Kyiv when Russians tried to take the city?

DEFEATIST. You are the problem!!!

Exactly, in fact there are countries where this happened and it's worked.

[Anonymous]

What are your suggestions when we see people shooting their way in? Even the US Capital has someone shoot their way in. Even if you patdown every kid every morning (can you imagine), someone could still get in if they wanted to. This is not like Fairfax kids are safe and MCPS does not care. There is no good solution aside from gun control which apprently we are not voting for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is MCPS doing to prevent school shootings in our kids’ schools? Heightened security? Closing most entrances? Do parents feel comfortable still sending their kids to public school?

MCPS has no meaningful security plans and they're not seriously looking to address it either. They're hoping there's enough space between violent incidents that parents and teachers forget about it and don't demand change.

It’s ridiculous to say this and absolutely not true. Is there more that could be done, maybe, but to say they have no plan and have not looked into it, is a complete lie.

What is the plan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardening schools is not the same thing as achieving school safety. Most school shooters are part of the school community in some way (whether current or in the past) and know the security and blindspots. It has to start with creating a culture of trust and support.

Okay, but I would still like for schools to be hardened against outside threats. We can have both.

Basic security, absolutely. But when we start talking about things that inherently challenge creating a trusting culture and are known to do more harm than good (see: SROs), no thank you.

It is nuts that some people argue that more guns make schools safer.

I’d prefer armed police in our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardening schools is not the same thing as achieving school safety. Most school shooters are part of the school community in some way (whether current or in the past) and know the security and blindspots. It has to start with creating a culture of trust and support.

Okay, but I would still like for schools to be hardened against outside threats. We can have both.

Basic security, absolutely. But when we start talking about things that inherently challenge creating a trusting culture and are known to do more harm than good (see: SROs), no thank you.

It is nuts that some people argue that more guns make schools safer.

If LE was on site at every school, it would be safer... but MCPS doesn't seem to want this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardening schools is not the same thing as achieving school safety. Most school shooters are part of the school community in some way (whether current or in the past) and know the security and blindspots. It has to start with creating a culture of trust and support.

Okay, but I would still like for schools to be hardened against outside threats. We can have both.

Basic security, absolutely. But when we start talking about things that inherently challenge creating a trusting culture and are known to do more harm than good (see: SROs), no thank you.

It is nuts that some people argue that more guns make schools safer.

If LE was on site at every school, it would be safer... but MCPS doesn't seem to want this.

Exactly. If museums have security, why don’t schools???