Recommendation for improvement

Anonymous
Break up into smaller districts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Break up into smaller districts.


I would like to see this happen, but I don’t think this is something the BOE can do.

Sounds like the OP wants suggestions for how the BOE can improve things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


The bathrooms are a nightmare. We had a robbery IN a bathroom at our high school, eh oh shows how bad things are. We have kids overdosing in our bathrooms in both MS and HS.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


The bathrooms are a nightmare. We had a robbery IN a bathroom at our high school, eh oh shows how bad things are. We have kids overdosing in our bathrooms in both MS and HS.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.


I agree. To date....MCPS' response has been to coerce teachers into being bathroom monitors in their "free time," putting latches on the doors, locking bathroom access and launching an "advisory group," whose decisions are non-binding and undefined from a timeline perspective.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


The bathrooms are a nightmare. We had a robbery IN a bathroom at our high school, eh oh shows how bad things are. We have kids overdosing in our bathrooms in both MS and HS.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.


I agree. To date....MCPS' response has been to coerce teachers into being bathroom monitors in their "free time," putting latches on the doors, locking bathroom access and launching an "advisory group," whose decisions are non-binding and undefined from a timeline perspective.



Unacceptable and not enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Break up into smaller districts.


I would like to see this happen, but I don’t think this is something the BOE can do.

Sounds like the OP wants suggestions for how the BOE can improve things.


I know! Why should we have to pay for the poor areas?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


Don't know about any of this but what would please me is reigning in the runaway spending on pointless sh$t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Prioritize safety in classrooms- that means quick removal of students demonstrating physical and verbal attacks of other students or teachers. If students cannot demonstrate safety in the classroom, they don’t return until they can.

This would make all stakeholders happier.



This sounds wonderful. What will it take to make this happen? Is there any way to try to get this proposed?


You can propose anything you want during public comments at the next BOE meeting. But you should think about these questions: If these students are quickly removed, where are they being taken/sent? What if they aren't willing to leave the classroom? Whose job is it to monitor them when they get to wherever they're going? What is the threshhold for demonstrating safety such that they can eventually return?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Prioritize safety in classrooms- that means quick removal of students demonstrating physical and verbal attacks of other students or teachers. If students cannot demonstrate safety in the classroom, they don’t return until they can.

This would make all stakeholders happier.



This sounds wonderful. What will it take to make this happen? Is there any way to try to get this proposed?


You can propose anything you want during public comments at the next BOE meeting. But you should think about these questions: If these students are quickly removed, where are they being taken/sent? What if they aren't willing to leave the classroom? Whose job is it to monitor them when they get to wherever they're going? What is the threshhold for demonstrating safety such that they can eventually return?


That’s for MCPS to figure out. That’s why the Central Office people are paid so much. What I do know is that the 95% of children who are ready to learn and the teachers should not be held hostage while a few kids destroy everything. I also know that giving kids no consequences does not prepare them to be functional members of society.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Prioritize safety in classrooms- that means quick removal of students demonstrating physical and verbal attacks of other students or teachers. If students cannot demonstrate safety in the classroom, they don’t return until they can.

This would make all stakeholders happier.



This sounds wonderful. What will it take to make this happen? Is there any way to try to get this proposed?


You can propose anything you want during public comments at the next BOE meeting. But you should think about these questions: If these students are quickly removed, where are they being taken/sent? What if they aren't willing to leave the classroom? Whose job is it to monitor them when they get to wherever they're going? What is the threshhold for demonstrating safety such that they can eventually return?


This is EXACTLY what MCPS needs to figure out. It’s not happening now.

Instead, the kids are sent right back to class. Which is not a viable option.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


The bathrooms are a nightmare. We had a robbery IN a bathroom at our high school, eh oh shows how bad things are. We have kids overdosing in our bathrooms in both MS and HS.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.


I agree. To date....MCPS' response has been to coerce teachers into being bathroom monitors in their "free time," putting latches on the doors, locking bathroom access and launching an "advisory group," whose decisions are non-binding and undefined from a timeline perspective.



I asked my kids about this but they'd say none of this goes on at their school so I'm kind of curious to what schools is this really going on at?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


The bathrooms are a nightmare. We had a robbery IN a bathroom at our high school, eh oh shows how bad things are. We have kids overdosing in our bathrooms in both MS and HS.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.


I agree. To date....MCPS' response has been to coerce teachers into being bathroom monitors in their "free time," putting latches on the doors, locking bathroom access and launching an "advisory group," whose decisions are non-binding and undefined from a timeline perspective.



I asked my kids about this but they'd say none of this goes on at their school so I'm kind of curious to what schools is this really going on at?


Are your kids in ES? Which school are they in?

I have several kids in the RM cluster. The bathroom situation has been discussed at PTA meetings and the issues are widely acknowledged. There was an arrest of several kids when they had that incident where the RM kids lured kids from Gaithersburg HS into the bathroom for a robbery.

In that same cluster, JWMS has issues with week and vaping in the bathroom. And Twinbrook ES had kids vaping in the bathrooms.

The better question is which schools have NOT have drugs in the restrooms? I think this is a problem across the county, regardless of SES level.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Prioritize safety in classrooms- that means quick removal of students demonstrating physical and verbal attacks of other students or teachers. If students cannot demonstrate safety in the classroom, they don’t return until they can.

This would make all stakeholders happier.



This sounds wonderful. What will it take to make this happen? Is there any way to try to get this proposed?


You can propose anything you want during public comments at the next BOE meeting. But you should think about these questions: If these students are quickly removed, where are they being taken/sent? What if they aren't willing to leave the classroom? Whose job is it to monitor them when they get to wherever they're going? What is the threshhold for demonstrating safety such that they can eventually return?


Sounds like MCPS needs to figure that out. How is that on the parents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A few things:

1) Prioritize Safety and Security in school. A PP said in the classroom, but safety and security is a problem throughout the school building as bathrooms, hallways and cafeterias are breeding grounds for abuse, physical violence and substance use. MCPS must take its buildings back and get serious about security and safety, which means putting in place meaningful and serious security resources and implementing disciplinary measures that hold violators accountable and deter other kids from following in violators' footsteps.

2) More real-time action, less talk. As a legislative body, the BOE takes too long to respond to urgent and pressing problems. While it's important to be thorough, it's sometimes more important to be present and engaged. Most parents would take an imperfect solution over no solution. But because the BOE is afraid of not pleasing everyone, too often they sit on their hands and do nothing, which also ends up not pleasing everyone either. So they might as well get some credit with some folks for taking action rather than doing nothing and still pissing everyone off.

3) Stop kissing MCPS admin's ass and provide meaningful oversight. The BOE is supposed to be a check on MCPS admin. But the BOE is too cozy and rarely rebukes or punishes MCPS admin for its lackluster results and outcomes. The harshest critics of MCPS should come from the board, but too often, it's parents, teachers and students who are doing most of the critical work that results in any modest improvements that happen within MCPS. This needs to change and the BOE needs to take more seriously its role of holding MCPS accountable as a system. Even if that means hurting some of their friends' feelings.


The bathrooms are a nightmare. We had a robbery IN a bathroom at our high school, eh oh shows how bad things are. We have kids overdosing in our bathrooms in both MS and HS.

This needs to be addressed ASAP.


I agree. To date....MCPS' response has been to coerce teachers into being bathroom monitors in their "free time," putting latches on the doors, locking bathroom access and launching an "advisory group," whose decisions are non-binding and undefined from a timeline perspective.



I asked my kids about this but they'd say none of this goes on at their school so I'm kind of curious to what schools is this really going on at?


These things are definitely happening at Kennedy.

Richard Montgomery's student newspaper says it's also happening there: https://thermtide.com/18494/news/rm-enforces-mcps-new-bathroom-security-policy/

What school do your kids go to that nothing is happening?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Break up into smaller districts.


I would like to see this happen, but I don’t think this is something the BOE can do.

Sounds like the OP wants suggestions for how the BOE can improve things.


I know! Why should we have to pay for the poor areas?


I'm the person who said "break up into smaller districts" I would be fine with a top tier pool that divided the money among smaller districts.
Sorry I snatched away your "everyone is unfair and mean except meeeee" world virw.
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