Williamsburg Middle School Math - what scores for 6th grade pre-algebra?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

Okay, but I literally copy and pasted from my kid’s letter. I thought the 1046 MI guideline was odd, because that was my kid’s exact score (according to the same letter). So maybe it was a typo? But again, it was a direct c/p from the letter in Parentvue from 2022.

I doubt it was a typo. Some kids are really good at math and can intuit or reason through material that they haven't been taught. One of my kids had a ridiculously high MI score in 5th that showed they were non par to skip right to Algebra. We didn't do that, went to pre-Algebra in 6th, but just pointing out this can happen.

So if a student has never divided fractions they can just reason through it? Maybe they cover that the end of 5th?

I don't know, all I know is that the score was super high. Maybe they did cover it in 5th, she was in the gifted cluster so they could have.

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Adding that a math professor told me that some kids "just figure it out"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

That’s my kid’s exact score for MOY math inventory. I’m terrible at math but he has a natural aptitude and dreambox covers up to 8th grade at least. His teacher said we’re very likely to skip Math 6 but can’t say for sure yet. That’s decided in 4th quarter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

That’s my kid’s exact score for MOY math inventory. I’m terrible at math but he has a natural aptitude and dreambox covers up to 8th grade at least. His teacher said we’re very likely to skip Math 6 but can’t say for sure yet. That’s decided in 4th quarter

Pre-algebra for 6th does not skip math 6 content. It compacts math 6-7-8 and students take the math 8 SOL at the end of the year.

Dreambox is how many students are exposed to higher level math content in elementary school. I have 5th graders who are working on rate of change if a parabola, for example.
If your child is not ready like 90+% of kids it’s nothing to be upset about. They can do Algebra 1 in 8th like most APS 8 th graders and still take Calculus in HS and get into a great college- we know plenty going to top 20 universities and SLACs who did Algebra in 8th!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

That’s my kid’s exact score for MOY math inventory. I’m terrible at math but he has a natural aptitude and dreambox covers up to 8th grade at least. His teacher said we’re very likely to skip Math 6 but can’t say for sure yet. That’s decided in 4th quarter

Pre-algebra for 6th does not skip math 6 content. It compacts math 6-7-8 and students take the math 8 SOL at the end of the year.

Dreambox is how many students are exposed to higher level math content in elementary school. I have 5th graders who are working on rate of change if a parabola, for example.
If your child is not ready like 90+% of kids it’s nothing to be upset about. They can do Algebra 1 in 8th like most APS 8 th graders and still take Calculus in HS and get into a great college- we know plenty going to top 20 universities and SLACs who did Algebra in 8th!

Yes, skip 6th grade math wasn’t the right choice of words. I’m not super concerned about when he starts algebra, but I think he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

That’s my kid’s exact score for MOY math inventory. I’m terrible at math but he has a natural aptitude and dreambox covers up to 8th grade at least. His teacher said we’re very likely to skip Math 6 but can’t say for sure yet. That’s decided in 4th quarter

Pre-algebra for 6th does not skip math 6 content. It compacts math 6-7-8 and students take the math 8 SOL at the end of the year.

Dreambox is how many students are exposed to higher level math content in elementary school. I have 5th graders who are working on rate of change if a parabola, for example.
If your child is not ready like 90+% of kids it’s nothing to be upset about. They can do Algebra 1 in 8th like most APS 8 th graders and still take Calculus in HS and get into a great college- we know plenty going to top 20 universities and SLACs who did Algebra in 8th!

Yes, skip 6th grade math wasn’t the right choice of words. I’m not super concerned about when he starts algebra, but I think he is.

I think what the PP meant by skip math 6 is take math 6-7-8 instead, which is the most advanced track. APS has recommended fewer kids for it in past few years, but some kids still do take this class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

That’s my kid’s exact score for MOY math inventory. I’m terrible at math but he has a natural aptitude and dreambox covers up to 8th grade at least. His teacher said we’re very likely to skip Math 6 but can’t say for sure yet. That’s decided in 4th quarter

Pre-algebra for 6th does not skip math 6 content. It compacts math 6-7-8 and students take the math 8 SOL at the end of the year.

Dreambox is how many students are exposed to higher level math content in elementary school. I have 5th graders who are working on rate of change if a parabola, for example.
If your child is not ready like 90+% of kids it’s nothing to be upset about. They can do Algebra 1 in 8th like most APS 8 th graders and still take Calculus in HS and get into a great college- we know plenty going to top 20 universities and SLACs who did Algebra in 8th!

Yes, skip 6th grade math wasn’t the right choice of words. I’m not super concerned about when he starts algebra, but I think he is.

I think what the PP meant by skip math 6 is take math 6-7-8 instead, which is the most advanced track. APS has recommended fewer kids for it in past few years, but some kids still do take this class.

Do they still call it Math 6-7-8? My kid was in 6th during the virtual year, and they called it “Math 6 extended.” They let lots of kids take that, but only a teeny number take algebra in 7th. Hopefully they’ve reverted back to the pre-COVID system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th this year and in pre-algebra. I was wondering about this last year and got stonewalled by our elementary school when I asked about the decision process and metrics.

I copy/pasted the text from last year’s notification letter:

VA SOL Grade 5 Math SOL 550+
CogAT Quantitative 126+
CogAT Nonverbal 126+
MI Quantile Score 1046

I don’t know if these guidelines are school specific or across APS.

5th grade doesn’t even teach to that level of Math Inventory. It would be almost impossible for a student to be at 1046 without outside help/prep.

That’s my kid’s exact score for MOY math inventory. I’m terrible at math but he has a natural aptitude and dreambox covers up to 8th grade at least. His teacher said we’re very likely to skip Math 6 but can’t say for sure yet. That’s decided in 4th quarter

Pre-algebra for 6th does not skip math 6 content. It compacts math 6-7-8 and students take the math 8 SOL at the end of the year.

Dreambox is how many students are exposed to higher level math content in elementary school. I have 5th graders who are working on rate of change if a parabola, for example.
If your child is not ready like 90+% of kids it’s nothing to be upset about. They can do Algebra 1 in 8th like most APS 8 th graders and still take Calculus in HS and get into a great college- we know plenty going to top 20 universities and SLACs who did Algebra in 8th!

Yes, skip 6th grade math wasn’t the right choice of words. I’m not super concerned about when he starts algebra, but I think he is.

I think what the PP meant by skip math 6 is take math 6-7-8 instead, which is the most advanced track. APS has recommended fewer kids for it in past few years, but some kids still do take this class.

Do they still call it Math 6-7-8? My kid was in 6th during the virtual year, and they called it “Math 6 extended.” They let lots of kids take that, but only a teeny number take algebra in 7th. Hopefully they’ve reverted back to the pre-COVID system.

This year it’s called “pre-algebra for 6th graders” but it is still 6-7-8 combined and they take the math 8 SOL. Then for 7th, there is Algebra I Intensified.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know the reqs for pre-algebra in seventh? I also wonder when you find out what math your child is in.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the reqs for pre-algebra in seventh? I also wonder when you find out what math your child is in.

You must not have passed the reading SOL?

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My kid is currently in 7th grade. Had 980 MI and 550 on SOL. Placement was Math 6. They had what I thought was an extremely high bar but we didn’t ask if they could do pre-algebra.

I imagine a parent can push for kids on the edges of cutoffs. Also know of a couple kids who went straight from Math 6 to Intensified Algebra in 7th.

Ours has had an easy time in Math 6 and pre-Algebra. I’ve wondered if we should have pushed the issue. But I didn’t want to have MS start off with a struggle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the reqs for pre-algebra in seventh? I also wonder when you find out what math your child is in.

You must not have passed the reading SOL?

What an a—hole

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the reqs for pre-algebra in seventh? I also wonder when you find out what math your child is in.

I don’t think the decision for 7th grade math is as test dependent as the 6th grade recommendation. The teacher recommendation carries more weight.

Last year the placement letter was posted on ParentVUE at the beginning of July.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the reqs for pre-algebra in seventh? I also wonder when you find out what math your child is in.

You must not have passed the reading SOL?

Wtf?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the reqs for pre-algebra in seventh? I also wonder when you find out what math your child is in.

I don’t think the decision for 7th grade math is as test dependent as the 6th grade recommendation. The teacher recommendation carries more weight.

Last year the placement letter was posted on ParentVUE at the beginning of July.

Agree, it's a holistic recommendation. Tests scores are only one factor.